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Published: Monday, Dec. 30 2013 9:10 p.m. MST

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truth in all its forms
henderson, NV

It looks like the best team in the state is about to show the nation just how good the running Utes are this year!

IndeMak
South Jordan, UT

I still believe Utah will win 19 games and will just miss the NCAA tourney and settle for the NIT.

pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

Go Utes!!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Yes we are!

I am tired if playing terrible teams like Katherine community and byu

They are killing our rpi and not preparing us or prestigious PAC 12 play

I can see a top 4 finish in the PAC 12 and at at large invite as realistic goals.

Go utes!
Onward and upward

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@IndeMak
They can't make the NIT with 19 wins, not with that out of conference strength of schedule. Personally I think they need 21 wins to make the NIT.

UtesBy5
Syracuse, UT

@atl134

Out of conference strength of schedule isn't as important for the power conferences. Utah will now play 18 conference games that will push their SOS up.

Our other teams in Utah playing in the MWC, WCC and Big Sky are considered mid-majors and their out of conference schedules definitely matter to the selection committees.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

@ Utes by 5
19 wins to get into the NIT? That means Utah would go 8-10 in conference play. Baylor made it to the NIT last year with a 9-9 conference record and they played 7 pretty big name games in the preseason.
Utah's weak schedule really does set them back a bit. If they win 10 conference games they are in. 8-10 in conference I don't think cuts it.
But I could be wrong.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

BeSmart, Baylor was also one of the top seeded teams in the NIT last year and a favorite to win it (which they did). A more realistic comparison for Utah's NIT expectations this year would be someone like Providence (19-15, 9-9) or St. John's (17-16, 8-10). The only real qualification for an NIT invite is a .500+ overall record. If Utah has at least a somewhat respectable conference record (8+ conference wins), I wouldn't call them a lock, but I think there's a decent chance they get an invite.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

@ StGtoSLC
I did not say it was impossible, but look at Providences and St Johns non- conference schedules. They were not the best by any means, but they played tougher than 351st.
I think Utah has a good team, and are much improved. I just don't think 8 wins will get them in the NIT with 8 wins. The bottom end of the Pac-12 (where Utah's victories are at most likely) is not very good USC has lost to every decent team, Washington State is the same, Washington has only played 1 noteworthy team and lost. Oregon State is also a very mediocre team.
If Utah makes it to the NIT I just don't think 8 wins is enough because the bottom of the Pac-12 really is not that good. The Pac-12 sent 3 teams to the NIT last year that finished 9-9 in conference, but they all had significantly better schedules. So you are saying that Utah will be in the NIT with a losing conference record and a weak non-conference schedule?
9 wins may get them in but 10 wins would be a lock.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

Maryland and St Johns made it last year with losing in conference records of 8-10. The ACC and the old Big East were great conferences, but they both had better out of conference schedules.
I personally think Utah will have 10 wins in the Pac-12 so I am not arguing against them just saying it will be really hard.
USC was 9-9 last year in the Pac and got no invite.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

BeSmart, that's because SC was 14-18 overall on the year, which makes them ineligible for the NIT. Washington, Stanford and ASU were the only PAC-12 schools with winning overall records not invited to the NCAA tournament, and the NIT took all 3 of them. Again, not saying just being .500 gets Utah in, but I think chances are fair.

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