Slight adjustments??? Lets see: 1) Where is this new offensive
line coming from? 2) Play calling - Anae was very predictable, especially on
first down...is he gonna make adjustments? 3) Will Hill magically learn how to
hit an open receiver?, 4) Will that open receiver hold on to the ball?, 5) As
big as the church is in Central America, you would think BYU could find a soccer
play that kick a football thru some uprights and deep into the end zone, 6) I
don't care how good Bronco is with a defense, you have to have the
personnel...who will replace the excellence of the departing seniors?The writer is hallucinating if he thinks it's only a 'slight'
adjustment that's needed. Counting your chickens before they're
hatched (easy schedule) doesn't work - just ask Alabama.
We only need one "adjustment" to become prime time.....Not
O-line improvement, not coaching changes, not creative offensive. The only
adjustment needed is to move to the FCS!Look out Montana, South
Dakota State and Sam Houston State, the Prime Time Cougars are coming!
As a life-long Y fan, these articles ceased to excite me a long time ago.
It's always "IF we had this," or "IF we had that." Saying
"If we had a dominant offensive line, we'd be really good" is
almost like saying "If Tim Tebow had elite arm-strength and accuracy, he
might land a starting job in the NFL." Hey, if I were 6' 9" and had
a 45" vertical, I might have a shot at playing pro hoops.I hope
we can catch lightning in a bottle one of these years, and it will eventually
happen, but to expect consistent elite play from a school with the unique
environment and requirements of BYU is naive.
This article is a joke. I am a BYU fan, but even the bluest of us can see this
is wishful thinking. Coach Anae still doesn't know how to run an offense.
It's just a different version of the ineffective offense he had before. Go
fast, go hard. Run a play ever 19 seconds. Who cares if it doesn't put
points on the board? There is a lack of creativity offensively. The O-line is
very poor. Receivers aren't open because the scheme doesn't get them
open. Bottom line, after 9 years of Coach Mendenhall, we know what
we're going to get. 1-2 starts, always losing to a team they
shouldn't (Virginia this year), generally beating who you should, losing to
good teams, always losing to Utah. If anyone thinks it will be different,
you're dreaming. On a positive note, the program is clean. Beyond that,
it's not that fun to watch as it's become a very boring brand of
football. Sure would be fun to believe the Cougs always had a chance like the
days when Lavell was there.
Re: ObjectifiedTrying so hard to trash BYU also minimizes the Utes single
score win over them.BYU hasn't beaten Utah by more than a
single score since 1996.
Re: Objectifiedthe Y did play a tougher schedule than any Utah has ever
had prior to this season. Ever! This is not true at all. It was
very over-hyped. BYU played a few decent teams, but they will be lucky if any
of them end up in the top 25. Who on BYU's schedule was really that
good. Wisconsin was ok, but they played a very easy schedule and didn't
beat anyone good.In 2008 Utah beat 4 teams that FINISHED the season
in the top 25 (2 teams that ended in the top 10 (TCU and Alabama).
I thought this was a great assessment. The years BYU has been great have been
when they have dominant 0-line play. Easier said than done and it's
difficult to turn around in one yr. One improvement would be to bench Yeck.
I'd be curious how many of those sacks were given up by him alone. 2J as a
coach will be great. The fact that one of the best O-line recruits has BYU in
his top 3 is a good sign.
Truth is truth, BYU does not have the athletes to be a top team and they are not
going to get the athletes to be a top team. That type of player does not want to
come to BYU.The same can be said about Utah, they are not going to
get the athletes needed to be a top team. Top athletes do not want to come to
Utah. Both teams will be able to come up with a good year occasionally but they
will never be able to compete at a consistent high level. If you were a true
blue chip player and have a choice between Utah or USC which one would you
chose? BYU's only hope in that case is if the kid is Mormon but even then
chances are good that the kid would chose USC because USC brings the greater
exposure. And if the SEC came calling...
Check your facts, Yeck played no more than 2 series, So how could they
constantly get around him when he wasn't even in the game. Next, over the
course of the season, how many of those sacks were because a scrambling Hill
couldn't read a defense, or make a decision to throw the ball, got caught
behind the line when he scrambled. It wasn't till late in the season when
Hill actually learned to step into the pocket to buy time. even still, if you
hold the ball all day you're bound to get sacked. Sure the O-line needs
some consistency, but you're drinking cool-aid if you try to place this at
the O-lines feet
It all depends on what Mr. Peavler means by Prime Time. With the playoff
starting next year, this is a bad time of have a soft schedule. While I agree
BYU is primed to have another 10 win season with the opponents on the schedule
in 2014, strength of schedule will keep them from even sniffing the playoffs and
will make it hard to even get into the top 15.
There are a couple of other adjustments I'd make:1: Bring back
receiver coach Ben Cahoon. His receivers were mentally strong with soft hands.
Drops were extremely rare.2: Bring in a true quarterback development coach
for Hill. Hill could be phenomenal, but his passing accuracy and vision still
need much polishing. Drain the coffers to get Ty Detmer here...even if
it's just a one-on-one camp with the guy over the Spring and Summer.
BYU has a decent chance to run the table in the regular season. They have
picked a good time to play UConn, Cal and Boise on the road. They have avoided
the Utes and got the Aggies at home. I really don't see anyone they
shouldn't beat. They'll probably mess up a time or two but on paper
BYU should go 12-0, maybe 11-1 worst case with that schedule. The bigger
question is how good will the Cougars be when it comes to the bowl game?
Of course you have the steady stream of Ute fans that read EVERYTHING about the
Cougars…Come on guys, it wasn't that long ago you had winning
seasons. You remember what that felt like? We have had a few weak years,
but our seasons haven't been total busts. Do you really feel good about a
tough schedule and a nice long series of losing seasons? what is your PAC12
record so far? Point to BYU and Stanford again and everyone will puke. At
best you will be a "spoiler" to better teams, year in and year out.
This is one of the few times I agree with Ute trolls. "Prime time" to
me is a consistent Top 10 performer for a couple of years. Alabama, Oregon,
Stanford, Ohio State are Prime Time; BYU is not.However, I do
believe BYU will improve next year. The schedule is easier than this year, and
only slightly tougher than a MWC schedule. This years schedule was comparable
to most BCS schedules.On a scale of 1 to 10, here's how I would
evaluate BYU the past two seasons and next.Offense: 2012: 4, 2013:
5 (6 in Oct and Nov), 2014: 7 (Hill will be much improved.)Defense:
2012: 9, 2013: 8, 2014: 6 (DBs will be better, D line and LB will not)Special Teams: 2012: 3, 2013: 5, 2014: 5 (Hine is the only bright spot I
see)We need to be 8 - 10 for a couple of years in each category to
be Prime Time.With that said, 9 or 10 wins is likely in 2014. 11 or
12 would be a good season. 8 or less wins and it's time to shake up more
than the coaches on offense.
Saying BYU is a few adjustments and an offensive line away from being a big time
player is like saying a Toyota Corolla is a few adjustments and a new engine
away from being a Ferrari. There is much more that needs to happen to make the
jump to big-time college football. Being "big-time" is not only a
question of wins and losses. It's also about the quality of the opponents
you beat. I doubt anyone considers Northern Illinois to be a big-time program
even though they they won a lot this past season. BYU will be "big-time"
again when they start winning big games and they won't do that anytime soon
until the coaches learn to prepare and coach their team in big games. This past
season was a major dissapointment in that regard in my opinion.
Is not Peavler entitled to her educated opinion? Of course, compared to the
expert commentators herein I suppose we all ought to keep our yappers shut. As
an acknowledged spectator and knowing little about the inner workings of this
team I, too, think she hit it on the head. Countless times, Hill was forced to
scramble, and get the pass off to avoid a sack,throw it away or eat it
resulting in being sacked way too many times. That, my friends, has nothing to
do with special teams, defense, lack of reading defenses, or myraid other
factors that happen in every ball game played across this great land.
How can everyone claim next year's schedule is weak before you even get to
it. Everyone claimed this season's schedule was the toughest ever. It
wasn't even close to last year's. The real measure of the schedule is
how all the opponent's finish the season. This past season the only top 25
team that BYU will have played is probably going to be Wisconsin. Norte Dame
might slip there after the season ends. That is only two top 25 opponents. Last
year we faced 5 teams that finished in the top 25. Don't start
judging a schedule until at least hAlf way through the actual season. If we
would have had UCF on the schedule this year no one would have thought of it as
a great opponent but they ended up in a BCS game.
This guy is obviously completely objective, just like all Dnews writers, and
spot on. byu is going to absolutely dominate next year.
This article makes me Lafe.BeSmart, please try. I took your advice
and checked out ESPN and found that BYU has 3 recruits rated 78 or better while
Utah has 7. Actually, the only recruiting service that has BYU ahead of Utah is
Scout: BYU 2.69 star average to Utah's 2.67. "BYU has a pretty good
recruiting class this year when compared you Utah." LOL really? Check out
247, they rate BYU at 82.53 while rating Utah's class at 83.77.
An O-line. Who needs one of those?
I hope it is more than a few adjustments.... BYU played horrible in all the
"big" games. They HAVE to start scoring when they get to the red zone
and start getting motivated to play tough.
The only trouble is that nobody will notice if BYU is an elite team based on
next year's schedule which is frankly the easiest they have had in awhile.
That's the trouble with being an independent.
What's more comical than the article itself is seeing how quickly any
article on BYU brings out the anti-Y Ute fans throwing all their negative darts
around... hoping to find anything that will stick. Why is it that such Ute fans
spend more time and energy on BYU articles than on their own Ute articles? @ Uncle Rico:Trying so hard to trash BYU also minimizes the
Utes single score win over them. But the truth is, the Y did play a tougher
schedule than any Utah has ever had prior to this season. Ever! Even tougher
than Utah's schedule last year that left them with a losing record. And BYU
was literally just a few plays away from being 10-2 with that schedule. By your
reasoning, the BYU "trash" schedule, as you put it, means that Utah has
actually had nothing but trash schedules prior to this season.To put
a few things back into some perspective, Texas (whom BYU beat worse than any of
their team did) was just one win away from being their conference runner-up.Boise State, whom BYU handily beat, was the runner up in their division of
Seriously? Bingham High would have a 10 game winning season with this 2014
schedule.Can we give it a rest talking about BYU and national championships.
Washington showed what would happen if BYU were in the PAC-12.
No more hype for me, thank you. I've had my fill from Utah schools saying
they are going to do this or that. I cite Utah football is going to win the PAC
12 and go to the Rose Bowl. I cite BYU's winning a national championship. I
cite BYU basketball insisting they are going to make it to the big dance. I
would say that the only team that has at least talked some of the talk was Utah
State. But even they couldn't beat a subpar Utah/BYU football program and
has lost to both BYU and Utah in basketball. Oh wait, not Utah this year. This
was the year Utah was too chicken to play Utah State in basketball and instead
played the powerhouses of Grand Canyon University, Lamar, Savannah State, and
Fresno State. So no more hype. Start doing the talking on field and
court or keep your mouth shut. Make goals for yourself and your team, but keep
them to yourself and your team.
Still better than 5-7 LOL and no bowl game
The writer forgot to add a new head coach to that list of adjustments.
@AZguyI noticed that you said 'top 25 ranking' and not top
25 team. Thank you for understanding the difference.
Sports Nutz"OK, I will play along. The Jazz are just a few
players away from winning the NBA Championship. Who has next?"Alright, here's my attempt...The Arizona Cardinals are few games away
from winning the Super Bowl.Next up???
@ UteologyI agree that BYU is a long ways off but BYU has a pretty good
recruiting class this year when compared you Utah. Check out ESPNI think
both Utah schools are way off.Rumor has it Frison may flip his commitment
Success is always just around the corner, right? Or next year, or when these
guys get back from missions, or when this recruit comes, or when this or that
happens. Well, the problem is that when you keep going around corners,
you're really just going in circles. Recruiting will continue to be a
problem, and that's where the issue lies. Takes more than a few adjustments
and an offensive line to return to "Prime Time," whatever that means.
Must be double-speak for National Championships, which won't happen this
If the definition of 'prime time' is a top 25 ranking than I agree. I
think an improved O-line would have gotten BYU 2 maybe 3 more wins this year and
that would put BYU on the cusp of a top 25 ranking.If 'prime
time' is Top 10 (which I personally believe), then BYU is much further
away. I think that would take the same improved O-line, more talented depth as a
team, and at least two more outstanding skill players on both offense and
defense (in addition to players like Cody Hoffman and KVN).
Sorry, but nobody is buying this garbage anymore.The problem is and
always has been COACHING.We could have a roster loaded with 5-star Blue
chip athletes and it wouldn't matter with Bronco at the helm.
yeah they should be good, but when they use 6 of the possible 19 practices that
the NCAA allows, and then show up totally unprepared and with a big slow start,
not impressed….; If you're tired, let someone take over who's
not. Plus they totally change the kickoff team with players that couldn't
tackle and it changed the game.. Hard work is hard to beat… most coaches
in college football use those practices to prepare young talent for the
following year, that tells you more about the direction of the program than
Being able to throw the ball to open receivers is more than an adjustment.
Either you have that skill, or you don't. TH can get the rock to a girl
and have her catch it, but the football is an entirely different thing. Also,
being able to run block is also more than an "adjustment". Lastly, what
would you call untimely penalties?
"Prime Time" HAHA... You mean 10:30 est vs Idaho State, on ESPN News
So is every other 8-5 team in the country.
You really mean that need an offensive line from the SEC which they will never
get being who that are? BYU O-line and the current recruits are no where close
to where it needs to be for BYU to be Prime Time and that is not going to
change. BYU will win 10+ games next year but they will not beat anyone that is
good unless they can pull off an upset of Texas and Texas does something in the
Big 12. BYU is what it is right now a good mid major team. They beat teams
that they should and lose to teams that are good. (except Virginia and I just
don't understand that one)
BYU should take a few pages from Texas Tech.
Lafe, did you just write this because someone gave you the assignment? Did you
even watch the cougars this year? The Oline is only a fraction of the problem.
The real problem is the coaching staff who didn't have enough intelligence
to make adjustments throughout the entire season. Sure we will do better next
year with a pansy schedule. As long as Anae is calling the plays we will do
poorly in games with decent teams.
Yeah, just a few adjustments away from "prime time." That's 10:30
pm. on ESPN U.
Big fan, but can't understand where this author is coming from! Offensive
line is atrocious! Play calling stinks (Yes, our qb can rush, but did anyone
feel comfortable with him rushing that many times in the bowl game?!) Our
"Blue Zone" play calling and efficiency is downright awful! But to
me the biggest concern going into next year is the defense. Gone is sorensen,
the entire linebacking core minus fua and Manumaleuma the only d lineman that
can get any type of pressure on the qb.Kafusi is a huge disappointment and
Van Noy will be impossible to replace. The only thing that changes is that our
schedule will be easier and we'll register a few more gimme games.
Who's excited for Savannah State to come to Prove in November?
More important than an improved O-line will be next year's much weaker
schedule. BYU will win at least 10 games without improving at all. Problem
Uteology:C'mon dude, that was a disingenuous post. BYU is recruiting
better outside the state of Utah and currently has a stronger recruiting class
overall than Utah. I agree this article is hilarious to think that BYU is that
close to being a great team but present ALL the facts not just the ones that
make your utes look better than they actually are.To those ute fans
that talk about all the Utah talent in the NFL, that's a double edged
sword. So you have a lot of talent but you finished 2-7 in conference. So
you're a talented team who epically fails to translate that talent to
anything great on the field. You have more NFL players than Stanford yet
Stanford is competing every year for the PAC championship including being the
champion the last two years. See that's what great programs do, they WIN
championships. They don't need SOS, recruiting, and NFL alumni trophies to
help them feel better about themselves. I mean 6 conference championships in the
conferences you make fun of now in half a century!? LOL!
"...the Cougars are just a few adjustments, including an overhaul on the
offensive line"Overhauling the O-line is not an adjustment.
Lafe - leave the cheerleading to Mr Harmon.Until BYU can win some
games against BCS caliber teams, it's all just hype.
"BYU football is just a few adjustments and an offensive line away from
prime time" -- DNThis year, BYU has ZERO ex-players that will be
in the NFL playoffs. I would argue that with a lack of NFL talent
BYU football is anything but a few adjustments away from prime time. And the
trends don't look good...Utah Top Recruits (Rivals):2003:Affleck…ASUSoi…BYUSperedon…BYUReynolds…BYUSorenson…Vanderbilt2014Barton… UtahSchultz… ND/Stanford/UtahMone …
MichiganFrison… UtahHavili…. Utah
The O line is not good. That is obvious. This article implies that the coaches
need to do a better job, but fact is the Cougs have one of the best O line
coaches in the country in Robert Anae and Tujague is very competent. Sorry, but
you can't get blood from a turnip. If Bronco can't recruit better
athletes, I don't see things getting a lot better next year.
OK, I will play along. The Jazz are just a few players away from winning the
NBA Championship. Who has next?
"BYU football is just a few adjustments and an offensive line away from
prime timePrintFont"By Lafe PeavlerYou can't be
serious? Lafe were you able to write this without busting a gut?
Just curious if Lafe Peavler knows anything about Football?You have
two 1,000 yard rushers on the team, yet he fails to understand that the reason
these two were able to rush for 1,000 yards is because the offensive line opened
holes for them to run, ran blocked for Hill as he was going down field....He is correct that the left side of the line had issues (mostly Yeck,
while Mathews was hurt most of the year and could not swivel to block). The
center, left guard (Johnson) and right tackle (Wesley, Kearsly) did their jobs.
In fact the only time hill got touched from the right side is when the RB did
not pick up the block.Next year with Mathews healthy, Yeck gone the
Line should be ok.
I'm sorry but is anyone else getting tired of these stories about BYU being
very close to becoming an elite team? These are the same stories that said BYU
would beat Utah, Wisconsin, Washington and Notre Dame. Look, I'm a BYU fan
but I am getting tired of the unjustified hype.
Wow, prime time? Are you high up in the mountains experiencing the altitude? I
would not even say they are ready to be the best team in the state or the best
Independent team. Average. Average. Average. That is the
word that comes to mind. A lot of players that saw a majority of the minutes
this year are graduating. Yes, on paper wins will be easier due to a weak
schedule for 2014. But, prime time is really far away. Come back down the
mountain and breathe the real air. First step....recruiting has to
improve to be a candidate for prime time. It's been very obvious when BYU
has played teams that are (really) closer to prime time in both football and
basketball, that the Cougars do not have the athletes with quickness and speed
to take it to the next level. That's just a fact, not a put
2013: BYU 6-0 vs Trash2-5 vs BCS conference teams(didn't even
play a conference champion or runner up)wait until 2014, the
schedule gets easier.
The problem is that the same folks will be running the offense. Creative and
offense are two words that don't go together at BYU. Offensive
adjustments are apparently impossible for our staff to make during the game.
As the schedule gets tougher, the performance will get worse and worse. Time
to evaluate your investment in season tickets.
BYU was lucky to keep Hill healthy all year.