Published: Saturday, Dec. 28 2013 10:15 p.m. MST
If the people of Utah valued education, they would stop cramming their children
in classes of 40 students...
Howard,They have been doing that for 50 years. To change that with 600,000
K-12 students, you would need to add $600 Million just to add $1000 more per
student. You would likely need to double the property taxes of Utahns and also
double the income taxes. Perhaps you want that. Most of us can't afford
that.We can get the public lands from the Feds, that promised at
statehood they wouldn't keep them. That could generate enough money to make
a big difference without doubling the taxes. We could continue to fight the
additional unfunded mandates from the Feds, particularly social services.
I think parents would be happy if their child just got an "A" grade no
matter what. It is not about learning anymore. It is about maximum benefit for
little effort. Let's face it. We are a true entitlement culture, right
down to the smallest detail.
@HowarsThe studies do not support the assertion. There are numerous
countries that have large class sizes that are well ahead of the US and Itah.
The problem begins at home. When the people are more concerned about the
Kardashians than they are about their children's education, even the best
teachers will struggle. Barring a disability, there is no reason that children
should not ne succeeding at svhool. However, when parents do not take the time
to check homework and help their children prepare for tests, it tekks the
childrenthat school is not that important. Turn off the tv and spend some
quality time with your children on their homework. It is surprising what you
both will learn.
A man who works on an assembly line is a necessary employee, but he does not
have to know how to solve quadratic equations. He does need to be willing to
work, not spend all his time protesting work rules, not continually protesting
his salary. He should enjoy his work and get along with fellow employees. I
don't understand why we give welfare to people able to work. If the work
pays less than the welfare perhaps there should be an incentive program/
One issue is to continue teaching student's at a competitive level and in a
way that does not dumb the student's down. The continuing efforts to
improve the education of our youth seems fraught with holes. Social construction
seems to be more of a goal then that of truly educating children. Making a
society of drones less knowledgeable about our history, less prepared to meet
growing needs, and less competitive in a world economy, but more compliant
within a set mind frame. It's a scary situation where Utah needs to stand
Video games, too much TV, too much texting and not enough reading, home work and
discipline are the enemies of education, not class size or money.
Maybe with 40 students that makes certain groups happier to show that charter,
private and home schools are better in Utah county.
As a teacher with 36 years of experience, I find one big consistency over the
years. Parents who expect their children to succeed and follow up with the
teachers to ensure that happens, find that their children will succeed. There
are the exceptions, but generally this has been true from my experience. These
are the same parents who have consistently read to their children from an early
age. These are the same parents who do not make excuses for their
children's behavior. These are the same parents who make education a
priority in their children's lives instead of football, cheer, or numerous
other worthwhile activities. These are the same parents who show respect to the
teachers who they have entrusted their children in the teachers' care. Education has been asked to solve societies ills, but the answer is found
in the home. No education reform movement will succeed until the home does. We
need to keep asking our youth to take responsibility for their own success and
do it with high expectations without doing it for them. Only then, will we have
future adults ready to take their place in society.
K12 education is a contentious subject. Much is at stake. Children, of course.
Then there are the teachers, their salaries, their pensions, and their
unions. School boards and administrators their salaries and pensions. School
construction and maintenance. Lots of money, lots of opportunity for graft and
corruption. And lots of misinformation to protect the guilty.Back in the
30s, 40s, 50s,. . . Glendale, California grammar schools had 40 [well behaved]
kids per class, dutiful teachers who didn't make much money, and all turned
out well. Kids went on to high school, 95% of them graduated, 40% went on to
college.Then came Abbott v Burke, Serrano v Priest, and a host of other
activists intent on mischief, creating a moral, political and financial mess -
at least in those states whose legislators lacked the foresight to avoid
unreasonable promises in their constitutions.Only in America.
"dismantle higher education’s finance model" - and this would be
bad, how? The problem is the higher education finance model. Universities have
had education as a low priority for years. Instead it is pretty obvious that
most are interested in building the highest cost facilities and being the most
valuable (in terms of cost) place in the vicinity. When the cost of
getting an education takes 20-30+ years of work in that field to pay for it, the
finance model is beyond broken. Of course, I am only talking about state
schools. The cost of education may well be one of the biggest contributors to
the struggling US economy.
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