Comments about ‘Making policy personal: why education is critically important to individuals and society’

Return to article »

Published: Saturday, Dec. 28 2013 10:15 p.m. MST

Comments
  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
Howard Beal
Provo, UT

If the people of Utah valued education, they would stop cramming their children in classes of 40 students...

Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

Howard,
They have been doing that for 50 years. To change that with 600,000 K-12 students, you would need to add $600 Million just to add $1000 more per student. You would likely need to double the property taxes of Utahns and also double the income taxes. Perhaps you want that. Most of us can't afford that.

We can get the public lands from the Feds, that promised at statehood they wouldn't keep them. That could generate enough money to make a big difference without doubling the taxes. We could continue to fight the additional unfunded mandates from the Feds, particularly social services.

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

I think parents would be happy if their child just got an "A" grade no matter what. It is not about learning anymore. It is about maximum benefit for little effort. Let's face it. We are a true entitlement culture, right down to the smallest detail.

RBB
Sandy, UT

@Howars
The studies do not support the assertion. There are numerous countries that have large class sizes that are well ahead of the US and Itah. The problem begins at home. When the people are more concerned about the Kardashians than they are about their children's education, even the best teachers will struggle. Barring a disability, there is no reason that children should not ne succeeding at svhool. However, when parents do not take the time to check homework and help their children prepare for tests, it tekks the childrenthat school is not that important. Turn off the tv and spend some quality time with your children on their homework. It is surprising what you both will learn.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

A man who works on an assembly line is a necessary employee, but he does not have to know how to solve quadratic equations. He does need to be willing to work, not spend all his time protesting work rules, not continually protesting his salary. He should enjoy his work and get along with fellow employees. I don't understand why we give welfare to people able to work. If the work pays less than the welfare perhaps there should be an incentive program/

CDL
Los Angeles, CA

One issue is to continue teaching student's at a competitive level and in a way that does not dumb the student's down. The continuing efforts to improve the education of our youth seems fraught with holes. Social construction seems to be more of a goal then that of truly educating children. Making a society of drones less knowledgeable about our history, less prepared to meet growing needs, and less competitive in a world economy, but more compliant within a set mind frame. It's a scary situation where Utah needs to stand against.

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

Video games, too much TV, too much texting and not enough reading, home work and discipline are the enemies of education, not class size or money.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

Maybe with 40 students that makes certain groups happier to show that charter, private and home schools are better in Utah county.

bill in af
American Fork, UT

As a teacher with 36 years of experience, I find one big consistency over the years. Parents who expect their children to succeed and follow up with the teachers to ensure that happens, find that their children will succeed. There are the exceptions, but generally this has been true from my experience. These are the same parents who have consistently read to their children from an early age. These are the same parents who do not make excuses for their children's behavior. These are the same parents who make education a priority in their children's lives instead of football, cheer, or numerous other worthwhile activities. These are the same parents who show respect to the teachers who they have entrusted their children in the teachers' care.
Education has been asked to solve societies ills, but the answer is found in the home. No education reform movement will succeed until the home does. We need to keep asking our youth to take responsibility for their own success and do it with high expectations without doing it for them. Only then, will we have future adults ready to take their place in society.

Erik Kengaard
Falls Church, VA

K12 education is a contentious subject. Much is at stake. Children, of course.
Then there are the teachers, their salaries, their pensions, and their unions. School boards and administrators their salaries and pensions. School construction and maintenance. Lots of money, lots of opportunity for graft and corruption. And lots of misinformation to protect the guilty.
Back in the 30s, 40s, 50s,. . . Glendale, California grammar schools had 40 [well behaved] kids per class, dutiful teachers who didn't make much money, and all turned out well. Kids went on to high school, 95% of them graduated, 40% went on to college.
Then came Abbott v Burke, Serrano v Priest, and a host of other activists intent on mischief, creating a moral, political and financial mess - at least in those states whose legislators lacked the foresight to avoid unreasonable promises in their constitutions.
Only in America.

RickChappell
Phoenix, AZ

"dismantle higher education’s finance model" - and this would be bad, how? The problem is the higher education finance model. Universities have had education as a low priority for years. Instead it is pretty obvious that most are interested in building the highest cost facilities and being the most valuable (in terms of cost) place in the vicinity.
When the cost of getting an education takes 20-30+ years of work in that field to pay for it, the finance model is beyond broken. Of course, I am only talking about state schools. The cost of education may well be one of the biggest contributors to the struggling US economy.

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments