CFiT, you are correct. I actually think the reversal of that may be in the
works, with Utah possibly moving into the 6 spot in the PAC and BYU finishing
3rd. Unfortunately for BYU, that is the same place they've been since
arriving, and while the recruiting is improving, the on court product is not.
But for Utah, 6th place would actually be a pretty good accomplishment, as the
PAC sends 5-6 teams to the NCAA nearly every year. But there's still a ways
to go, we'll see what happens.
@Crow - "Utah will finish third in their premier league while byu will
finish sixth."I'd love to take a poll to see how many Ute
fans agree with this statement. I guarantee that Utah will finish lower than
3rd in the PAC and that BYU will finish higher than 6th in the WCC.I
like the banter, but can we keep it objective.
St. Katherine is a very strong team, one of the best. The utes played out of
their minds in order to win. The Utes could beat any of the best catholic high
school teams in the nation.
MurrayMike, that Boise team was an at large selection in the NCAA tournament
last year that returned all 5 starters, and were picked to finish 2nd in the
MWC. They are a pretty good team. As far as Utah, last year, they were good
enough to beat teams like that Boise team by 21 points, blew out a ranked Oregon
at home, who would eventually narrowly lose in the Sweet 16, a convincing win at
a decent Washington team, wins at home against good Colorado and ASU teams, and
near misses at a decent BYU team, at a very good Arizona, and at ASU, and at
home to Arizona and another good UCLA team. But they were very inconsistent,
blowing games to bad teams like Sacramento State and CS Northridge, and getting
handled at SMU. This year, they are playing consistently, and have played well
against both good teams they've played and not blown any of the
"trap" type games. So draw your own conclusion, but I'll wait to
see how conference plays out. As it is, I don't see any Utah teams making
the NCAA, again, but Utah is on the right track.
StGtoSLC ~ Dude the ONLY reason the utes are beating teams they should is
because the teams they are playing are pathetic, including my cougars. The one
game you played away from home, you lost. The team, Boise St. will probably
finish somewhere in the middle of the pack. So losing to a mid tier mountain
west team should be a wake up call to what's coming up for the utes.
@ EsquireUSU played San Diego Christian last night. All of the
other games I listed are happening today.
@IA Coug usu lost to byu who is not that good. Take away haws and you take away
their scoring threat. Haws is one dimensional he can't create his own shot
and take away his right hand and he is a turn over machine. Mika and Austin
can't stay on the floor. Utah will finish third in their premier league
while byu will finish sixth.
@ Two For Flinching, just knocked USU for their NAIA opponent from last night.
Preseason or early season, maybe, but this late? No way. It's appalling.
StGtoSLCThanks for explaining the details that IACougar conveniently
left out of his post. The picture of who exactly has accomplished what is much
clearer when the specific details are presented. Coach K gave the WCC blue
print for handling byu and clearly, the WCC teams were paying attention. Given
that the Utes are being taught how to play basketball with real defense and not
just running up and down the floor to see how fast they can shoot the ball, I
would say that Utah is a lot better than byu.
IA Cougar, so what has all that road experience against good teams done for BYU?
Prepared them for blowouts to teams ranked between 150-200 in the nation? Sorry,
not buying it. A team is what it is. Not saying Utah is anything special, but
they are a bit better than BYU. Also, who are these "very good teams"
USU has beaten? USC (picked to finish 11th in conference)? Miss St (picked to
finish 13th of 14 SEC teams)? 3-5 Weber State? Or how about that home overtime
win against powerhouse UC Santa Barbara. USU was a good team with Shaw, but are
relegated to pretty mediocre without him. The fact is, Utah is the only team in
the state right now winning the games they should by the margins they should.
@ EsquireSDSU played St. Katherine right before Utah did.Utah St. played San Diego Christian, Oregon is playing Morgan St., USC is
playing Howard, Stanford is playing Cal Poly, Washington is playing Hartford,
Oregon St is paying Quinnipac, and Notre Dame is playing a team called
Canisus.Most D1 basketball teams schedule a tune-up game before
conf. play starts. I agree that Utah should have found a better opponent, but
this practice is extremely common.
A bad NAIA opponent? Are you kidding me? Especially this late in the season?
This is truly pathetic scheduling. I suggest the Utes schedule Highland High
School. At least the travel will be easier for everyone involved.
At motorbikeTotally agree. Enough with these weak teams, bring on
the PAC.GO UTES!
Utah's preseason schedule of 12 games had one away game. (A loss).
11-1BYU's preseason schedule of 13 games had 7 away from Provo.
8-5Utah State's preseason schedule of 12 games had 3 away games.
10-2No one will question the strength of schedule for any of these
teams. Now that league play starts, I would say Utah State will have the best
season. Utah is much improved from last year but really has not been tested at
all, including by BYU. The Aggies have a huge home court advantage with fans
who actually show up. Time will tell if Utah is a myth or not. Utah State is a
very good team. BYU "might" decide to play as a team but time will
tell. Yesterday was a good indication it won't yield a post season
anything unless things get turned around. Utah State has already beaten a
couple of very good teams. I'll give my nod to Utah State. They are the
best team in the state so far. Of course, because Utah is in the mighty Pac12,
we will never know....but I think we do already. Go Aggies! Go Cougs!
St. Katherine is an Orthodox university founded in 2010. They are not an NAIA
team, which would be higher than they are currently aspiring to, which is the
National Christian Athletic Association. This is their first year in basketball
or any sports.They have played Dixie State, Utah Valley, and Weber
State. They are playing Utah because of ties their recruiting coach/associate
head coach has with Utah.I don't think Utah needed to pay all
that much to bring them in. It was St. Katherine trying to fill their schedule,
which I think they have done quite well considering they are starting from
Utah was picked 9th in the PAC-12 and BYU was picked 2nd in the WCC. We'll
see how that works out the rest of the season!
So first season they played basketball, and was that katherine's girls
school? Didn't say in the article.....maybe the utes are the best team in
the state, but they're still gonna get handled in the pac10+2.
Didn't they play SDSU last night and lost 118-35.... How much money did
Utah spend to bring them in.....
That was a difficult game to watch
Chris BYou are really not in reality the Utes have played no one and it
will show when they start playing league games.
You're correct...the Utes aren't prepared for PAC - 12 play. They
especially are not prepared for any road games having ventured out only once.
I'm so glad this part of our schedule is over. At least the Utes laid a
proper 70+ point whooping on a team that really is that bad.Bring on
the Pac 12 schedule and lets see how good this team really is... Go Utes!
I love these PAC 12 utes!By far the best team in the state. But I am worried playing teams like this and byu aren't prepping us
for PAC 12 playGo utes!The dance is a strong
possibility. I think a top 4 finish in the PAC 12 is also possible.