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Published: Friday, Dec. 27 2013 7:40 p.m. MST

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Potsdam, 00

See that Court ruling on the Baptist School lately, these things will come to Utah like dew in the morning, one case after the other.

It is good to wake up.

Read that article : “The government doesn’t have the right to decide what religious beliefs are legitimate and which ones aren’t,” Eric Rassbach said, Deputy General Counsel at the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty in a statement. “In its careful opinion, the Court recognized that the government was trying to move across that forbidden line, and said 'No further!'

Lucky this time, next time, who knows.

Los Angeles, CA

What a waste of money on a cause that was lost when the supremes ruled. Lets donate the money to our homeless veterans instead.

get her done
Bountiful, UT

Utah spends of least amoujnt of money for education of school children per child in the United states. How can it afford 2 million or more to try to prop it's ego of discrimination? Lost cause, gay marriage is here to stay. Utah will go down in history as the gay marrage capital of the world if they choose to fight this.

mid-state, TN

In regards to the actual topic of this thread --

I'm all for Utah spending whatever money they think they need to push this case up the line to SCOTUS. Heck, my state won't have to pay for it -- and I'm quite confident that Utah will lose the case.

This will be a great case to establish nationwide same-sex marriage clearly and irrevocably. And it will be hysterically funny to have Utah to thank for doing it.

Go, Utah!

college sports fan
Alpine, UT

Children deserve a father and a mother, and research overwhelmingly supports how this benefits our society.
We need to wakeup and defend the “natural family”.

Baltimore, MD

"We should be paying for the best and the brightest," Valentine said. "This is a case that is not only a historic precedent, but it's one that really goes to the core of what states' rights is all about." What went to the core of states's rights was the confederacy - note the appropriate small c. It lost as will the haters in this case. Explain to me again why this money needs to be spent? How will spending this money help people in Utah?

Alexandria, VA

Lots of poor, needy sick and afflicted that money would otherwise help.

Ricardo Carvalho
Provo, UT

This is not a case that we will win. Regardless of individual feelings on the issue, we should not spend taxpayer money defending traditional marriage. Certainly, some firm will take the case and tell us that they can help Utah defend traditional marriage. I just don't think that is possible any more. It would be interesting to see a scientific poll done today to see how people would vote on this issue. Even if Utah were to win with the Supreme Court eventually, I think the voters of the state would be likely to overturn such a decision fairly quickly.

Paul Scholes
Provo, UT

Jason - It is Reyes, not Perez.

Alexandria, VA

Even if Utah can stop same-sex marriage in Utah, it is still legal in other states, and WashDC. And Utah has to recognize all marriages performed in all other states. See Williams v. North Carolina, 1940.

If individual Utahns want to contribute to this losing cause they should do so.

The fight to stop gay marriage, is a "jihad". And it is a losing cause.

Ogden, UT

@OnlyInUtah 10:55 p.m. Dec. 27, 2013

No expense is too great in defending what is morally right.


In that case you will be contributing to the defense of Judge Shelby's decision, because trying to deny people their right to marriage -- a fundamental right, which makes it a Ninth Amendment Constitutional right -- is in no way moral or right. (Let me remind you of what the Ninth Amendment says -- "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.")

Let the people who want to fight Judge Shelby's excellent decision contribute to a fund to pay for the appeal, and let the State spend its money on things that really matter and which do not attack the fundamental rights of the people of this state.

Merritt Island, Fl

I can only repeat what has been said before me. Spending money to hurt citizens who only want legal equality is wrong. Marriage is a legal commitment that provides certain rights. It is not a Religious issue unless you want to take the license to a church and have a ceremony. Both should be beyond the reach of a Government that says it wants to stay out of everyon's life (unless it is in the bedroom).

Eye Guy
Bluffdale, UT

Am I the only one that thinks this should be put to a state vote of some kind? Two million dollars (certainly a low-end estimate) is a lot of tax dollars to spend on one small group's religious convictions. Almost certain to lose, are "we" just trying to be the nation's martyrs?

Utah, get off the hate train!

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

It all begins to add up.

Countless millions wasted by payday loans who screw over young and desperate people. Then, it is found that our former AG was in her with these payday loan folks... And others... So the state uses millions with that debacle. Then, swallow waits intil a certain date so the state must now pay him $12k every year for the rest of his life.

Millions wasted on message bills for federal land.

Millions wasted on fighting gay marriage.

No wonder why we don't have money for schools. Instead of the state lying and saying that the money isn't there. I wish they would just come out and admit, the money is there but we would rather spend it on frivolous lawsuits than on our kids!


As if our taxes weren't high enough already..

Similar to jp3, I work for a school district, due to budget cuts they reduced hours and took away insurance on the Special Education assistants.

Because worrying about what people do in their bedrooms is much more important than educating children.

From Ted's Head
Orem, UT

Oh listen to the whiners now complaining about Utah spending money to assert its rights as a state! "Let the people who want this pay for it" Well, they are. The majority of Utahns will be in favor of pressing this to the Supreme Court so the issue of State's Rights vs Civil Rights can be reviewed. While the hot potato is gay marriage, the issue is larger in that a single federal judge can throw out a state law based on his interpretations. So of course it's going to be pushed to the highest court. And Utah is the state to do it, win or lose. The price tag could be 10 or 100 times higher and it would still be worth it...and if need be private citizens would step up to pay for it directly. While there are some in Utah who are gay and some who support them, I believe that the majority of Utahns are busy with their lives and not consumed with the gay marriage issue because they'd prefer not to think about it. But wake the sleeping giant and you will find tremendous opposition to the sinful gay lifestyle, married or not.

Salt Lake City, UT

Bravo House Speaker Becky Lockhart and other GOP representatives and Sean Reyes! Thank you for standing up for the voice of the majority of the people of the state of Utah. This will be money well spent so that we can have our voice heard and not be drowned out by the voice of the gay community who is intolerant to the view of others when it comes to traditional family values. Lets spend as much money as necessary to have our voice heard. If more is needed let all of us who are concerned about the erosion of family values contribute millions more for this worthy cause!!

Cardston, Alberta

To all outsiders, it's not your money so back off. BTW, I have children and grandchildren living in Utah so I actually have a serious vested interest. Private dollars may well pay the legal tab so give it a rest already. Sodomy is still sin, no black robes can change that.

slc, UT


I am sick of spending good money after bad, so I got a proposition they can have their 2 million plus a bonus million if they win if they lose they get nothing. You will find no takers because they now the odds. It's time the state of Utah stool lining the pockets of the friends defending bills they know are not defendable.

Murray, UT

The AG and Governor, and most reasonable people, know there is nearly zero change of Amendment 3 surviving. All this is is political grandstanding and a HUGE campaigning platform, for all the hardliners, all at the expense of Utah Taxpayers.

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