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Published: Sunday, Dec. 29 2013 5:00 a.m. MST

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Joe_Libertarian
San DIego, CA

I am so sympathetic. It is anguishing to see your child in pain. But let us imagine for a moment, if the love of your life is in mortal danger, sitting in their hospital bed. You have spent your life with this person, and you are about to lose them. Yet.... you are denied access because you are not married to the person. This travesty... why did we not marry the person of our life, the person we have been comitted to for decades...

Simply because some out of touch, un-empathetic, backwards people, said that we could not marry.

I am very glad the court system is dragging the Utonians into a new world, where all people are created equal, where all people have the same rights... and the government doesn't care what religion you are. I am glad we acknowledging that as a country, we do not care what opinions Utonions have about same sex marriage. It is, in the end, none of their business.

jeanie
orem, UT

This is a beautiful article about the atonement. Not everything has to be turned around and pointed at gay marriage. There are people from all walks of life and situations who experience loss and grief - more than we can fathom. The atonement covers it all. Thank you for this article as a reminder.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

I can swat a fly, step on a spider, even have killed ants with a magnifying glass. No remorse there, but having my dog put down because he is suffering and the vet bill is more than I could afford, rips my heart out. Tears still water my eyes years latter.

JSB
Sugar City, ID

Goats make great pets and I feel for the boy's loss. I think they are the only animals with a sense of humor. Our little "Stella" just had a couple of kids (Mahler and Mendelssohn) that we would be happy to give to this boy. These goats are a cross between an alpine and Nigerian dwarf--a little smaller than standard but large enough that the females give plenty of milk. How can I find out how to reach his parents?

dotGone
Puyallup, WA

I had a pet goat once! They are adorable.

So many parenting experiences give us insight into the Divine. Parenting also makes adults of us. Considering parental inexperience, I always wonder if we do any good for out kids!! They are so good for us.

greycardigan
American Fork, UT

My son has autism, a disability made more bearable because of his emotional support dog. Before she was adopted into our family, my son was a non-verbal, introverted little boy. Now, a year after joining us, he speaks to us more than before and is actually learning to make friends and expresses empathy for others. We don't understand the mechanics of their bond, but I am grateful that God knows each of His children and provides them with comfort as He sees fit, even if that comfort takes the form of a goat or a dog. I agree that one of the greatest things we can ever do for our children is point them to Jesus, their Savior and Friend.

ontheotherhand
Highland, UT

Joe, I'm surprised you don't know that as of two years ago gays and lesbians have full hospital rights. No need to politicize someone else's beautiful, personal, religious experience that had nothing to do with gay rights. Thank you for an inspiring read, Tiffany! Your son is lucky to have had such a dear animal friend.

sharrona
layton, UT

The prophet Isaiah says God will include animals in the new heavens and new earth: "The wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, but dust will be the serpent’s food. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, says the LORD." (Isaiah 65: 25, NIV)

But does animal intelligence constitute a soul? Does a pet’s emotions and ability to relate to human beings mean that animals possess an immortal spirit that will survive after death?
Theologians say no. They point out that man was created superior to animals and that animals can’t be equal with him.

Then God said, "Let us make man in ourimage, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26, NIV)

jeanie
orem, UT

"Superior" does not mean "the only living thing with an immortal spirit". All living things have a spirit and return to their creator. Just as there are different levels in this mortal life in regards to living things, so it is after this life. Having a living spirit does not put animals equal to humans, but rather shows the power and breadth of God's creations both mortal and spiritual.

It is right for us to mourn our beloved pets. As children of a loving Father they are gifts to us.

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: jeanie "Superior" does not mean "the only living thing with an immortal spirit".

Most interpreters of the Bible assume that man’s likeness to God and animals’ subservience to man implies that animals may have the "breath of life," nephesh in Hebrew, but not an immortal soul in the same sense as man’s.

In Leviticus, God instructs Moses on animals that are suitable for sacrifice:
"Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'When any of you brings an offering to the LORD, bring as your offering an animal from either the herd or the flock.'" (Leviticus 1:2, NIV)

God prohibited the killing of man ("You shall not murder," Exodus 20:13) but he placed no such restriction on the killing of animals. Man is made in God’s image, so man must not kill one of his own kind. Animals, it would seem, are different from man. If they do have a "soul" that survives death, it is different from man’s. It does not need redemption. Christ died to save the souls of human beings, not animals.

jeanie
orem, UT

Sharrona,

"Animals, it would seem, are different from man. If they do have a "soul" that survives death, it is different from man’s. It does not need redemption. Christ died to save the souls of human beings, not animals."

I agree. :)

MrsH
Altamont, UT

Thank you for this article. I have tears in my eyes reading it.
My little granddaughters were in an accident and received injuries.
I begged the Lord to let me take their suffering instead, and it was witnessed very powerfully to me that He already had.
The Atonement is real.

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