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Published: Thursday, Dec. 26 2013 1:20 p.m. MST

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Visitor from California
Berkeley, CA

Congratulations to the happy couple, and to Utah!

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I think it speaks well of the people of the Utah County that such reconciliation can be found and good feelings shared even in the face of an emotional issue like this. It looks like every county in the State is complying with the Judge's ruling.

J. S.
Houston, TX

Congratulations to the newly weds!

A living proof that it is just a matter of time that marriage equality will win out.

Salt Lake City, UT

Someone please look at those pictures and tell me why the government should prohibit such joy. Congratulations to the happy couple, to Utah County, and the State of Utah. Let love rule.

non believer

Still feel Thompson should be removed from office and do not buy his story for an instant!

Billy Bob
Salt Lake City, UT

Utah County was right to wait until after the decision was to not grant the stay was made by a court rather than a single egotistical judge. Now that a court has not granted the stay, every county has no choice but to grant the marriage licenses. I have said it before and I will again. Although I don't support it, I have no problem with the gay marriage movement as long as they don't take it to the extreme where they are suing churches for not performing their marriage for them and as long as they respect the religious rights of myself and many others. I also would prefer it be done by the voice of the people rather than courts, but that apparently is not going to happen as judges think they should have more power than the constitution allows them (which is a problem that spreads far beyond the gay marriage movement). I think it is a fair compromise for both sides of this particular issue to put their differences aside and respect the other group's rights to think, feel, or believe what they think, feel, or believe.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00


Saint George, UT

Looking at a picture as evidence that something is working is not a reliable criteria for whether it is working. If this doesn't describe the approach of the leadership in Washington the past 50 years, I don't know what does. The appearance of reality is better than reality.

Wilf 55

The Mormon church agrees that sexual relations are also "to express love for one another" as another function besides procreation. But, says the Church, such sexual expression of love can only be allowed within the bonds of marriage.

At least in the civil realm, could the church then not accept that a legally-married gay or lesbian couple is not sinning? According to Mormon morals, it would be preferable for them to marry rather than having sex outside the bonds of marriage. It would be such a simple step to acknowledge that, while still upholding the traditional-marriage-rule for church members.

Lane Myer
Salt Lake City, UT

"I am not a hater, but to continue to devalue the purity of marriage for the "Gay" community is disheartening."


Oh, please. Marriage has been devalued already by plenty of heterosexuals before these two loving people took that civil commitment. You may think it is fine and does not tarnish the word if Brittany Spears was married for 27 hours, or that Ted Bundy was allowed to marry before he was executed, but I think all of us have our own houses to clean before we complain about a couple that has been together for as long as these two have finally being able to celebrate their county granting them a license.

Congratulations to them!

J. S.
Houston, TX

@TN Cougar

People can believe all they want, whether they oppose same sex marriage, or like the majority of American general public and 70-80% of young generation who support same sex marriage. But we have to agree, young generation's opinion matters more for this issue, and that is why like it or not, marriage equality is inevitable.

@Billy Bob

Some pastors decline to marry divorcees, and no one can prosecute them. There is no need to worry priests may be sued because of not marrying gays.

Also, whether SSM is legalized by popular vote like in WA, MA, ME, or by legislature like in NH, VT, NY, RI, MN, DE, IL, DC, or by court order, they are all playing by the rules. After all, legislature and independent judiciary are both key elements of "check and balance" set by founding fathers.

mid-state, TN

@TN Cougar --

"it is wrong to attempt to destroy traditional American family values. "

There is nothing about gay marriage which requires "destroying traditional American family values".

Gay people who wish to marry cherish the very same traditional values of love and commitment as any other couples wanting to marry.

"Liberals/anti-religionists will never be happy until they make everyone as miserable as they are."

Yet again -- this isn't a question of "Religion vs. The Gay".

Many Christian denominations are already happy to perform same-sex wedding ceremonies.

And many gay people are devout Christians.

@omahahusker --

"If two people want to have relations that fall outside the norms of biology "

What does "the norm of biology" have to do with morality?

I am left-handed -- representing 10% of the population. Is left-handedness immoral?

I am also very tall -- taller than 95% of women my age. Am I therefore immoral?

Don't confuse "norm" with right and wrong.

In fact, many many nonhuman species practice homosexual behaviors out in nature. Therefore, it's perfectly natural.

"to grant the the prize of marriage by activist judges is clearly against the wishes of the founders of the constitution. "

How so?

Provo, UT

I've said it before but it's worth saying again:

"How many legs has a dog, if you call a tail a leg? Five? No. Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg." - Abraham Lincoln

If the government classifies an SUV as farm equipment for tax and emissions regulation purposes, does that make it farm equipment? No. That's absurd.

If the government classifies a homosexual relationship as a marriage, does it make it a marriage? No. It's still not a marriage. It's still a sham.

Highland, UT

CONGRATULATIONS!!! So excited to see love and equality win over ignorance and hate. The utahans I know are much more loving and accepting that what you see in blogs and on TV. Utah county takes one step closer to being a more Christian place to live.

Lake Havasu City, AZ

This is something that is so hard for me to understand why men/women seem to have a desire to marry each other. As a wife of 69 years, I am so grateful for a husband who helps me, and also for the wonderful children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren and great greatgrandchildren that I have that they will never have to bless their life.

Highland, UT

@ Prodicus

What is traditional marriage and when did it begin?

I'm confused because I read through history and see:
• Abraham had many wives (even married one of his half-sisters) and concubines (is that traditional marriage?)
• Arranged marriages to promoting family ties and/or exchange of land and wealth (is that traditional marriage?)
• Serial Monogamy, those who divorce and remarry multiple times (is that traditional marriage?)
• Polygamy, Joseph Smith and Brigham Young said that was required to gain the highest glory (is that traditional marriage?)
• Monogamy becomes the standard for the LDS faithful in 1890 (is that traditional marriage?)

I'm confused. What is traditional marriage and when did it begin?

J. S.
Houston, TX


If you want to believe same sex marriage is "not a marriage. It's still a sham", no one will force you to change your belief, and frankly, many same sex couples don't even care.

What truly matters to them is that their marriages are recognized by the government, they now have equal protection and equal liberty under the US constitution. whether other people like it or not, after all, the government can no longer deny their 1100+ rights and benefits under the law. That is what they care about.

Orem, UT

Does legalized same-sex marriage open the door for legalized polygamy? How about for other prohibited marriages such as to a sibling or relative?

If the argument is over equality in marriage not social or religious immorality, shouldn't those other types of prohibited marriages also be allowed?

Potsdam, 00

To BYU-2000

All you need is look up the term marriage, origin and came abouts.
It started with the use of the word, somewhere in the beginning of dark ages.

But when did they start the term "traditional marriage", I guess in our time.
I think many people like to be not bothered by these issues, and I do believe the SSM community has many nice and hard working people, just the propaganda elite is suspect to me.

That elite is driving us all nuts, to change terms and definitions until we all give up.
That is why we need to keep talking about it, and hold up some clear view what life is really about, or else they win over society, elections and our children' future.

Provo, UT

What is a traditional marriage? Well, we've only got a few thousand years of history to work with in forming an answer. Whether polygamy or monogamy, males were paired with females and vice versa. Even ancient societies that tolerated or encouraged homosexual behavior didn't attempt to marry the individuals involved. It takes the decadent modern mind to come up with such an idea. Also, I don't understand Christians or Jews who encourage "gay marrioage." Homosexual behavior is condemned in the strictest of terms in both the Old and New Testaments.

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