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1,500 rally to celebrate unexpected decision that led to gay weddings in Utah

Published: Monday, Dec. 23 2013 6:50 p.m. MST

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John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

The view that marriage is a child-rearing institution that needs to be in a form that can produce children is a secular argument that takes into account secular goals.

The marriage debate is not "religious" vs. "secular". It has two sides with both can be and are presented in secular terms.

This is why it should be debated through the legislative processes. The definition of marriage is a complex issue that is a matter of public policy and should be determined as such.

This is especially true when redefinition threatens the freedom of speech and religious freedom of florists and photographers. In Washington state a florist is being prosecuted because she would not consent to give the huge amount of time and energy to support a wedding she saw as a violation of her religion.

My favorite sister-in-law is Mexican, not just Mexican but conscious and positive about her Aztec ancestry. My favorite nephew has an Aztec name many cannot pronounce. Yet I would also defend the rights of anyone who held beliefs that interracial marriage is against God's will to refuse to photograph the marriage of an Anglo-American and a Mexican-American.

Contrariusier
mid-state, TN

@John Pack --

"The view that marriage is a child-rearing institution that needs to be in a form that can produce children is a secular argument that takes into account secular goals."

First, multiple courts have already agreed that procreation is not a requirement for marriage.

Second, gay couples produce children in the very same ways as any other infertile couples.

"This is why it should be debated through the legislative processes. "

Loving v. Virginia already settled the issue of state matrimonial laws that contradicted the US Constitution. All state laws MUST conform to the Constitution.

my two cents777
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My cousin was among those getting married yesterday in a same sex marriage. I am happy for him and his spouse- although I am hetero I respect their right to love one another; Just as we were admonished to do by the Lord. Don't throw stones; do not judge. You may be surprised at who, in your own family, is also homosexual. We love our cousin no differently than before. We are happy that he can finally be married to the person he loves.

brainoncapitalist
Orem, UT

I thought letting gay people get married was supposed to destroy my marriage or something? Does it just take more time or something? Because so far, I haven't noticed any negative consequences to myself personally. :-P

Lasvegaspam
Henderson, NV

In surveys conducted in 2002 and 2011, pollsters at Gallup found that members of the American public massively overestimated how many people are gay or lesbian. In 2002, a quarter of those surveyed guessed upwards of a quarter of Americans were gay or lesbian (or "homosexual," the third option given). By 2011, that misperception had only grown, with more than a third of those surveyed now guessing that more than 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian. Women and young adults were most likely to provide high estimates,approximating that 30 percent of the population is gay. Overall, "U.S. adults, on average, estimate that 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian," Gallup found. Only 4 percent of all those surveyed in 2011 and about 8 percent of those surveyed in 2002 correctly guessed that fewer than 5 percent of Americans identify as gay or lesbian.

From: "Americans Have No Idea How Few Gay People There Are" by Garance Franke-Ruta May 31, 2012 The Atlantic dot com

Lasvegaspam
Henderson, NV

Can someone explain to me how it is possible that for only between 2.4 and 4 percent of the population, we are going to such extraordinary lengths to redefine marriage and family?

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