Look out Miners, an old legend, one who built a dynasty way before you did, is
returning to the sidelines. Just saying...
It isn't going to matter where he coaches, unless he goes out and recruits.
If West Jordan follows the rules and does not recruit outside of their boundary,
they will never win no matter how legendary the coach is on the sidelines. Skyline won in the 80's with kids that lived all over the Salt Lake
valley. Teams that win now do the same, it has nothing to do with coaching but
more about what a school is willing to do to get around the rules. In today's day and age, show me a winner and I will show you a cheater.
It's what high school sports have become.
Uncle Sam,Don't believe everything you hear or even what you
read. Not only did Dupaix not "recruit" a single day in his
life, but Skyline had the numbers of a 4A if not 3A school through much of his
tenure as head coach. Did Skyline get a few kids due to open
enrollment each year? Sure. But go back and look at how many of them were
starters or all-staters and you'll soon realize that Dupaix was an
incredible coach to have won all those 5A titles.
@motorbike - They are a 1-9 football team and will stay that way as long as they
play with the current kids that are feeding the school. If you suddenly see them
winning 7-8 games in 3-4 years, go back and double check where the kids are
coming from. I am just saying that I don't care how
"legendary" the coach is, he can't win at West Jordan if he follows
the same rules as the coaches before him.
He can win at West Jordan as long as he cna keep the West Jordan kids in West
Jordan and keep Bingham from taking them!
@Uncle Sam I agree with you to a point, however there a lot of West Jordan
kids over the past years who have attended other schools when they should have
went to WJ. So really the recruiting starts in Coach Dupaix's own city in
WJ. The flood gates have already stopped this year & Coach Dupaix has
started to turn that trend around in the younger age groups by keeping 9th grade
WJ kids where they belong. You will see those efforts help turn the program
around in a few years. Another key point is keeping the local Poly's in
West Jordan who have been attending Bingham recently. I always find it
interesting to read the Utah HS D1 prospects Bio's with their High school
listed as Bingham but home town West Jordan....Just sayin.
Uncle Sam sounds like a bitter dad who feels his kids were cheated somehow.
Coaches make a huge difference. So do parents who go about sports the right
way. East had some terrible years after Whitehead left. Did Matich suddenly
recruit a D1 team to that school or did he make a huge difference with the kids
that were there ? Before you answer that and spout off about the controversy in
2012, get the whole story. Coach Clifford at Clearfield took a perennial cellar
dweller girls soccer team and went to the quarter finals in her first year. So
many examples of how much difference a coach can make. BTW nice copy and paste
from the other chat board.
It's not the kids that feed in to West Jordan that is the problem. Look at
the basketball team, Always competitive. If the kids that live in West Jordan
stay in West Jordan they would compete in any sport.
Many of us, even those of us that weren't in football, chose to go to
Skyline because it offered superior programs all around. I'm grateful I had
had the opportunity to go there and to know Coach Dupaix and all the other
teachers that helped get me to where I am today. Skyline didn't need to
recruit. People wanted to go there.
Skyline was like Bingham is now. They didn't recruit, players just wanted
to go there. Players go to Bingham today to be a part of the best program in the
state, be coached by the best coaches and have the best chance of getting
notices by colleges. Haters are going to hate Bingham today and make things up
just like they did about skyline in the 90's. Coach dupaix is an amazing
coach and will make an impact, I don't think it will be enough until they
get better players. They will get more wins and be more competitive with him for
Hey MarkyMark...It's Seminole. Good to see you on here.Congratulations to Roger for being the energizer bunny he is "who gives
and gives and keeps on giving". He's a good example to all of
us...He's definitely a place to start if WJ wants to get things roaring.
Some of us remember the late 1980's and early 1990's when Coach Rick
Bojack faced the same issues, same place. I'd be interested in hearing his
opinion plus other staffs opinions as far as the participation aspects go. The
one thing Skyline and Bingham shared is an impressive youth league establishment
with sound coaches, which I know is huge a factor for Alta and Jordan. If you
don't have it there it's not likely you'll have state champion
caliber at the next level. If anyone can do, they will.
Dupaix (son and father) were great hires for West Jordan. West Jordan has never
been a powerhouse in football. I'm not expecting a miracle but for the
Jaguars to get more competitive in future years. The region they're in is
extremely tough so maybe competing for the last playoff spot or just winning
some non-league games are the more immediate goals. I think right now the
Jaguar program merely wants to hold onto to its own players that might be going
to Bingham or elsewhere. That would be a great start. I know people are
expecting big things here and at Mountain View (Wong) and Provo (McGeary), but I
think the processes will be slower realistically. I think in all three cases,
fans (parents and administrators as well) should keep expectations reasonable
but expect steady progress. I think if any program makes a jump in
wins next year I think it will actually be Provo if QB Vili Iongi makes the next
step going from good to great, Chase Heiner remains healthy and the talented
sophomore/freshman class continues to develop and can step in and fill some gaps
on the varsity team.
This was a package deal. Danny DuPaix had never been a Head Coach, OC, or DC at
the Varsity level and by some "miracle" he got the head coaching job at
WJ, over a DC who had been there for 9 years and was already a teacher on staff
and liked by all the kids. I guess when you can tell the administrators in your
interview that dear old Dad will join your staff when he gets home off the
mission, and dad just happens to be the winningest head coach in state history,
they are going to give you the job. Now it will be interesting to see how long
they hold on to DuPaix if he can't win more games, and especially if they
continue to lose to Copper Hills. Bingham went undefeated again and took home
the 'ship. Copper Hills beat WJ for the first time in school history. Trust
me the future doesn't look bright even with Dad DuPaix on the sideline.
THE 53, WJ should have gotten rid of every losing coach they had on
staff when Dupaix was hired. Changing the culture 100% is the right thing to do.
If he was the on the staff for 9 years and all they ever did was lose how good
of a coach can he be? From what I have heard "liked by all the kids" is
quite the over statement. I wish nothing but the best for Dupaix and the
Jaguars. I am a Herriman sincerely miss Dupaix.
roll tide,If DuPaix didn't want losing coaches on his staff, why did
he bring in 3 former Copper Hills coaches? If you are trying to create a winning
culture I don't know that bringing in coaches from a school that has never
had a winning season is a great idea. DuPaix changed the culture alright. I hope
WJ likes being the new Copper Hills. Pointing the finger at the old
coaches and labeling them losers is not classy. WJ might not have done as well
over the past few seasons but to say that "all they ever did was lose"
is quite the over statement. If it's just coaching then why did they go 1-9
this year and lose to Copper Hills which has never happened in school history.
Having great players has as much to do with winning as having great coaches. WJ has good players not great, add a coach with zero head coaching or
coordinator experience and you get a 1-9 season and the first loss ever to your
city rival. With similar records on their JV and Sophomore teams I will say it
again, the future doesn't look bright at WJ.
I am not close enough to the situation to know why he brought in the coaches
that he did. I agree that the future doesnt look super bright, but I do know
that he did not get the coaches to come with him from Herriman that he really
wanted to. Maybe the coaches were smart enough not to go to WJ, they saw the
writing on the walls that it would be a struggle and they wanted to stay at
Herriman. If Dupaix can keep his kids in WJ they will be a decent team. They
are in a rough region. Accusing Wj of hiring Danny a year in advance in order to
get his dad on board is stupid. There is no way they knew Roger would want to
I agree they can be better if they keep their own kids, but that was the point
in my first post, it won't happen, especially now after losing to Copper
Hills and Bingham continuing its dominance. As for why WJ hired him, Danny
even said in another DNews article that he would hire his dad after his mission
if he could talk him out of retirement. Which shows that he was at least going
to try.All I am saying is there is nothing else on his resume except for
his last name that could convince anyone that he would be a good head coach.
Never been a varsity head coach before, never been a varsity offensive or
defensive coordinator before. And I could even see them giving him the benefit
of the doubt if he had at least played college ball somewhere, but he
didn't. I almost think it's a mistake for him to bring his dad onto
the staff. If he wants to get out from under his dads shadow and make a name for
himself he needs to do it on his own, not have dad there holding his hand.