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Published: Monday, Dec. 23 2013 9:24 a.m. MST

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Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Wowzers!
Amen!

[I suppose my Christmas surprise came 2 days early.
The Deseret News finally printed a "Liberal" article. Thank You.]

FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

WOW! Please run for President.

QuickRick
Brigham City, UT

I guess I read a different version of Dickens' story than the author did. After Scrooge's experiences with the various ghosts, his reaction wasn't to demand that government raise taxes so that "Society" could take care of the poor. He what he could himself.

airnaut
Everett, 00

QuickRick
Brigham City, UT
I guess I read a different version of Dickens' story than the author did. After Scrooge's experiences with the various ghosts, his reaction wasn't to demand that government raise taxes so that "Society" could take care of the poor. He what he could himself.

12:58 p.m. Dec. 23, 2013

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You mean you didn't get the part that the rich business owner [Scrooge] turned "liberal" and learned to gave their poor employees a raise, so that we didn't to call on the Government to rip it from their cold, greedy fingers?

In America,
the 99% Bob Cratchet's have a vote.
the 1% Scrooges need to opened the purse strings before the Ghosts of Future present show up in the form of Revolutions.

FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

Great article, but apparently it falls on deaf ears in the redest of the red states.

Cool Headed
Sandy, UT

Of course a liberal's definition of generosity, Christmas or otherwise, always starts and ends with some other person's money, and their definition of "needy" almost always encompasses their own situation in one fashion or another.

airnaut
Everett, 00

Cool Headed
Sandy, UT

Bob Cratchet was not looking for a free hand-out,
he "worked" for his money,
Bob Cratchet "made" Scrooge his wealth,
and Scrooge took advantage of him and exploited him and his family,
making himself even more wealthy in the process.

Read the book,
Watch the play,

Scrooge only bought the Cratchets a Christmas turkey and some knick knacks --
AND
He gave Bob time off for holidays,
gave him a minimum RAISE,
and provided healthcare for his employee.

If Corporations [Scrooges in this metaphor] would do the same,
we wouldn't need the Government requiring mandates for them to do so.

djc
Stansbury Park, Ut

And yet the calls of "are there no debtors prisons" and "what about the work camps" still ring out among the better off members of our current society. The lessons of this Dickens story would be well learned in the USA of 2013, just as well as in 19th century England. The worlds' richest nation (in each case) with a few extremely rich people living a life of luxury and the masses living as peasants or serfs. Oft times in both eras, the rich weren't the ones who created the wealth, but rather the sons and daughters of the creators, lucky ones who inherited more money than they could ever spend. As per usual there are comments on this very opinion piece that show a lack of basic compassion and empathy and equate poverty with laziness and sloth. It seems that a good Christian understanding of poverty, its causes and its effects is beyond many peoples comprehension. There are many in contemporary Utah who would throw the poor into debtors prison happily. Seems the message missed by a wide mark.

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