Fun game to watch. BYU was playing out of their heads though the better team did
win. It gets a lot easier from here. Should take 3rd in the WCC.
It's kind of a big deal.
Can never finish out a game. NIT here we come
Cougars lost from the line again.Cougars (Bartley) got cheated out
of three points by the blown call (even the TV announcers confirmed it) at the
end of OT. Whatever it takes to give Big Boy the "W". Pretty tough to
beat the Zebras.
Two Words 1-Free 2-Throws
Those darn refs beat us again!
G-Day-M8"Two Words: Free Throws"Amen!If BYU shoots 75% instead of 61% from the stripe, they win.Still,
a great effort by the Cougars tonight against an undefeated, Top 12 team on the
early to be pulling the plug on BYU's NCAA prospect;, in fact, if the
Cougars split with Gonzaga and St Mary's, and win the rest of their WCC
games, very doable, BYU will be all but guaranteed a spot in the big dance come
Sort of doesn't matter because we lost, but Carlino had a
double-double...with rebounds...basketball is screwed up these days
Didn't watch anything until the last two minutes of regulation
(interestingly, when the game finally got interesting). Both teams seemed bound
and determined to give the game away. Oregon's defense on Haws was
embarrassing. He's possibly the best scorer in the country when not
gameplanned for, but very mediocre when he is. Then they finally come back to
tie it and are sure to win it at the line... but miss them both. But in the end,
between Eugene and Albuquerque today, the meaning behind the term
"Cougin' it" was strengthened tenfold.Tom, just because
Ernie Kent says something doesn't make him right. Bartley had clearly not
started his upward motion when the defender was set. Good call. Bad drive by
Disappointing to not see the game again but it seemed we fought hard but still
came up short as usual. I wished we pulled it off but unfortunately we
didn't. Once again from reading the article it seems the team's f/t
demons were still not exorcised. A few more shots made at the critical o/t
period would've given them the upset but I'm please nonetheless that
they didn't bust like they did against the Utes. Gonzaga also lost so
there goes the only WCC team that was rank this year so far. Oh well...looking
forward to conference play anyway! Go Cougars!
BYU stalled when they got to 84. PAC 12 officials called traveling against BYU
on a rebound but not against the Ducks in a similar situation on the other end
of the floor. Carlino missed two lay-ups. Officials called a charge that the
announcers said should have been a block and instead of being up by 3, Cougars
fell behind. Oregon could and should have won in regulation, and had
two chances to hit a single free throw, but missed both. Great game, no one has
taken it to Oregon like that on the Ducks home floor. Foul trouble killed
BYU's big men.Cougars let another one slip away. But it's
hard to beat those PAC 12 officials when they aren't consistent except to
call in favor of their own conference, whether in basketball of football---it
never changes. Still, BYU played a solid game and should have finished with a
victory. They had about 6 chances after getting to 84 before they finally got
another bucket. There's little excuse for missing lay-ups, by the way.Overall, very good game to watch.
If the Y had spent time in the preseason and in the past weeks trying to improve
their free throw shooting....they probably win...but it was obvious the
officials took control at the point when Bartley scored and the basket negated
by a very obviously blown call... that's the PAC 12 for ya... had the
correct call been made, and if Bartley makes the free throw, I think they take
the game because Oregon was down to 0 time outs....but... place some focus on
free throw shooting and you do not give the refs a chance to take control....
You can try to blame the refs but calls on both sides we bad. Foul shooting
killed BYU. They need to shoot higher than 61% to win a game. After all, they
are free. In the end this was a fun game to watch.
toosmartforyou: "PAC 12 officials called traveling against BYU on a rebound
but not against the Ducks in a similar situation on the other end of the
floor."From what I understand, they made the exact same call
against Oregon earlier on. The announcers also mentioned this. Don't let
that keep you from hearing, seeing and believing only what you wish to, though.
I don't see what all the hubbub about the Bartley charge call is. The
defender was set before he began his upward motion, that's a very easy
call.And please ratsoutah, these same "PAC-12 officials" in
this game, Michael Irving, Frank Harvey and Glen Newberry have also officiated a
combined 18 WCC games against non-PAC-12 schools, versus 16 TOTAL PAC-12 games
(10 of these only coming from Irving). Took me two minutes to look up. Do a
little research and save some embarrassment.
What is the stat for BYU's last four minutes in every game? How about
games against teams over .500? It seems that BYU just folds up and closes shop
at the end of every game. And when is our other "body" coming back?
Mr. Football, Bronson Kafusi...BYU needs another good five fouls to give,
especially late in the game. Bronson could sit on the bench until the second
half, then bring him on to beat up some guys...Boy, we sure need
SOMETHING. This is the same in Football...lose against all the pretty good
teams...Getting old guys! Note to coaches! And get local
broadcast...Direct TV don't carry PAC12!
Quit blaming the officials for the loss. The Pac 12 refs didn't walk up and
clank a dozen free throws. The refs didn't force a drive up two before
anyone else came down the floor. That was a terrible decision by "Matty
Ice" as Wrubel calls him. He's more like ice melt! The call
in overtime was the right call. All watching listened to an announcer claim it
was the wrong call. How hard would that be to see in real time? When watching in
real time, it was the right call. Any time you slow a play down to frame by
frame, it would be impossible to ever get a call right.BYU bombed
this game. Not the refs.
BYU is playing better this year than expected even with this loss. BYU has been
weak with the big men for the past few years, especially when going to the
bench, with the change in game plan this year they definitely look better. Just need to keep improving and fix this year's free throw slump
which is difficult to fathom with so many good guards on the team.
I was at the game... It was a very hard loss to accept for a Coug fan...
Reasons: . BYU led the entire game and controlled the glass... At
least they did in the first half until the pac12 zebras decided that Oregon
wasn't going to win with the 2 BYU Bigs still in the game... If either
Austin or Mika finish Regulation, BYU wins. . Free throw shooting
continues to be atrocious... It's like our place kicking game in
Football... We are horrible at it and it doesn't appear that it has moved
up the coaching staffs priority list at all... We need a dedicated Free Throw
coach on staff. Nothing more painful than Collinsworth shooting free throws...
The guy drives and handles the ball a lot and get's fouled a lot, but he
can't hit better than 60% from the line and more like 50% at crunch
time. . Our Offense needs work... Once the opposing team shuts down
Haws, then we get a steady diet of one on two, or one on three with Collinsworth
or Carlino. Mika has a tough time handling the ball in the paint, and Austin is
too intimidated to shoot.
It's always easy to blame losses on Officiating and most people don't
buy it... But pac12 officiating, IMHO, is the absolute worse in College
Basketball... In general they are inconsistent and seem biased against any OOC
Team that comes to play their teams... (Ask Wisconsin about pac12 officiating in
football).But since I was there... Here's my take on blown
calls that significantly hurt the Cougars: . The 5 free throws that
they gave the kid from Oregon who had 30 some points at the end of regulation...
Austin and Sharp should have never left their feet and they deserved the call on
the shot... However, from my vantage point the guy's foot was on the arch
line both times... And both times the Refs wanted to give him 3 shots... He did
get 3 shots the first time but the video was more clear the second time so they
had to reverse themselves... He hit them all to close the gap in regulation..
One point too many... . Barley's drive in OT should have been
an "and one" instead of a charge... The defender was not set and it
looked to me that he was in the "no charge" arch.
I was at the game, and let me tell you those refs couldn't make a proper
call all night.
It's all mental and in knowing HOW to finish! If you can play even in
regulation, you can win in regulation or overtime! BYU must master the mental
focus and confidence to put the game away - mental toughness! It's up to
the players to develop this as a team and develop it now going into conference
On a neutral floor, with non-pac12 officials... BYU wins this game by double
digits...However, if Rose doesn't do something about improving
the teams Free Throw shooting there will be many more losses down the road.Guys who need the focus the most are: . Collinsworth... His
shot is horrible, lacks confidence and doesn't square to the basket... His
shot (mid range, 3 point, and free throw are shot too much from the side and
he's not balanced and doesn't square to the basket. .
Mika... Too many moving parts in his shot and release and doesn't bend his
knees... . Austin... Mechanics are good, just needs more free
throws which comes from attacking the basket on offense. . and
Bartley needs to relax... His percentage is way worse than it should be... His
shot and release in general is not as good as it should be for a #2 or a #3. Too
much left hand in the shot.BYU ranks at #242 in Free Throw shooting
amongst 351 NCAA Division I teams at 67%... Pathetic for a team in the top 25 in
RPI... However, 67% would have won the game tonight with 2 additional points in
I hate not having the game broadcast in our area. As for the team's
continuous struggle with foul shots, you'd think the guys would take that
on themselves without the coaches telling them to improve. I understand Tyler
got to be good in it because he spent hours practicing shooting free throws.
Repetition and practice breeds confidence which results in improvement. But,
what the heck do I know? Maybe the coaches are preaching that same gospel but
just not being heard or taken seriously. Also, we are in serious need of an
extra big man like some are advocating, preferably a 7'ter with mass and
skill. I can only hope and dream!Go Cougars!
Excuses, excuses, excuses that's all we here from BYU fans. Blame the refs,
blame the free throws, blame being on the road, oh and don't forget the
tough pre season schedule. Now BYU starts the meat of their schedule and only
plays two teams in their cracker box league. But take heart cougar fans you can
watch them on BYU tv.
It appeared the Cougars back was broken on the Bartley charge. That being said,
watching the replay over and over again I have to agree with the refs. It that
had been Haws he may have pulled up and tossed in a soft fall away jumper.
Great game to watch and to watch growth in the big men in each contest. Mika,
it seems, needs to catch, turn and put in rather than putting the ball on the
floor where he is still deficient in the college game.
It was the refs?It was the home cooking?If only a neutral floor. No way can we blame the 18 turnovers.No way can we blame al the
missed free throws. These refs work more WCC games than PAC 12
games. The calls were 23 fouls vs. 22 fouls. 8-5 now. You gave it a great Cougar try and almost did it. Now stop making
Greg Wrubell said on the radio that the refs were WCC refs.
During the last four minutes, was it just me who was screaming at the TV for the
Cougars to SLOW the game down? With 3:33 left and a seven point lead, I counted
five or six possessions where a guard ran down the court and either clanked a
long shot or lost the ball in traffic before the rest of the team had crossed
midcourt. I realize that it is not BYU's style to play half-court offense,
but had they burned 20 to 30 seconds of clock on those possessions, this game
would have been a huge W in BYU's book, and better yet, another chance to
stick it to the PAC-12. Great game boys--you left it all on the court.PS:
The refs also made some awful calls against Oregon.
Wah, wah, wah. BYU lost because they can't hit free throws. All complaints
about officiating are just "sour grapes." As another poster pointed out,
referee's usually work multiple conferences as is the case with this group.
Way to go Cougs, don't hang your heads. You are young and at least have
figured out how to play hard and stop worrying about the other Jersey.With no seniors on the team, these learning curves are going to be steep, but
this season is going to have some great memories to it, including a trip to the
Excuses, excuses, excuses that's all we hear from BYU fans these days.
Let's see, the ref's cheated us, even the announcers thought we were
homered, we were on the road again and the list goes on. Well now you can start
your conference play in the cracker box league. But wait isn't St Marys and
Gonzaga dominated you? Oh, and in addition you can see them for free on BYU tv.
Yep, BYU the only team in America that has never lost a game because of poor
foul shooting, poor shooting in general, poor defending, poor coaching, or just
because the other team was better.
I love BYU hoops! But the vicissitudes of their performances are quite
frustrating. Where is the consistency? And this is not limited to hoops.
Football is the same way. I love Coach Rose. But When I was coaching,
inconsistency was known to be a reflection of my failure to create structure and
discipline and, instead of relying on well-practiced execution, trying to get
players psyched up for games with motivational speeches. Excitement and
motivation failed against Utah. In the long run, structure and discipline will
beat out pep talks every time!
LadyMoon, I agree. This team needs "mental toughness" especially at the
end of close games. That and an emphasis on free throw shooting! That alone
would win games with the points they lose by mission free throws!Go
Had to listen on radio and did not hear Luke Worthington's name called all
night. Did he play? Suit up? What's the "story", if there is
The officiating was just normal folks. The charge call at the end of the game
was a good call. We missed free throws and Carlino and Collinsworth both turned
the ball over in crucial moments in regulation which could have won the game.
This team needs to learn to close it out. They will and my prediction is we win
the WCC if we play this well against Gonzaga.
@poyman"On a neutral floor, with non-pac12 officials... BYU wins
this game by double digits..."Woulda, coulda, shoulda. I think
that needs to be BYU's new motto. When BYU loses (and that's happened
five times already this season), it's never their fault. It's always
the refs or the scorekeeper or someone who has it out for them. Have you ever
thought that maybe with improved recruiting, coaching, etc., that possibly your
team wouldn't constantly be stuck in this excuse-making mode?
Blaming the refs for a loss is weak. The complainers only remember the "bad
calls" that went against them, not those that were called on the other team.
BYU would be better served to practice 15 foot shots and quit whining.
each player should shoot a minimum of 100 free throws a day (except Sundays) as
long as they are at BYU, including the off season. if they are already shooting
100 / day then double it. Do we need a free throw mechanics coach? some of those
guys look awkward when shooting the free shot. if we made the free throws in all
of the games we lost we may be undefeated. think about that.
@poyman"We need a dedicated free throw coach on staff"Hey, I'm not busy. I'll take that job. I will show all the players
how to walk up to the line that has been conveniently painted on the floor for
them, then you shoot the ball into the basket. Okay boys, now do that 1000
times a day. Coach Rose, I'll be in Monday morning to pick up my paycheck.
So if this trend continues on the year and a few quality wins against Stanford,
Texas and maybe St. Mary's are weighted against quality losses to Iowa
State, Wichita State, UMass, Oregon, most likely Gonzaga, possibly St.
Mary's, and perhaps Utah depending on their conference results, where will
they stand? Are 2-3 quality wins versus 8-10 quality losses, with possibly one
or two bad losses along the way, enough to make the NCAA as a 12 or 13 seed?
Great watch, I thought BYU played great they had Oregon dreads to right. I
thought the officiating was good. Free throws killed BYU. After watching Gonzaga
yesterday, BYU is a better team and can easily win the WCC. The battled last
night, BYU is battle tested, I give them big ups for last night, even in defeat!
I don't know how in the world any one can blame the officials for the loss.
Let's look at it statistically, total free throws BYU 36, Oregon 31.
Personal fouls BYU 23 Oregon 22. It looks pretty even to me. Don't miss 13
free throws and you win the game going away.
It's all about free throw shooting. Maybe I shouldn't talk as a couch
potato who is 100% free-throw shooter in the comfort of my recliner. But, my
understanding is that improving free-throw percentage is just a matter of
mastering good form and investing the time. But maybe there are good players who
just lack the motor skills or the emotional composure. I'd be interested to
hear the opinions of coaches and ex-players out there. Say what you want about
the PAC/WCC refs. This game was lost at the line to a very fine team.
I just wanted to say what a great game. Your team is going to do great in
conference. My Ducks were lucky to get out of this one without a loss. Both
teams are only going to get better after playing a game like this. Good luck
the rest of the way.
BYU played a great game until the starters "ran out of gas." If they
would have hit a basket in the last 2 mins. of the game, they would have won.They are a young team, and have great potential. Go Cougs!
@Silent LurkerYou don't seem to understand the difference between
making excuses and self evaluation. Blaming the refs is making excuses
(you're right about that one). Blaming poor foul shooting is just stating
facts. BYU outplayed Oregon and beat them in just about every statistical
category except foul shooting and turnovers . If even BYU would have shot their
abysmal free throw average they would have won this game, despite all the
turnovers and BYU's bigs fouling out. But they didn't, and the score
is the most important statistic.When some posters are so blinded by
hate, they lack objectivity, and thus lack credibility.
StGtoSLC"Tom, just because Ernie Kent says something
doesn't make him right. Bartley had clearly not started his upward motion
when the defender was set. Good call. Bad drive by Bartley."StG
- And your vast experience and expertise qualifies your opinion to
trump Ernie Kent, who took his Ducks to 5 NCAA tournaments and the Elite 8
twice. Get real.
At least 3 of the 5 BYU losses can be attributed to really poor foul shooting,
and that is just a shame.
Silent Lurker - "now you can start your conference play in the
cracker box league. But wait isn't (did you mean didn't) St Marys and
Gonzaga dominated(did you mean dominate) you?" You beat
Evergreen Tech and now all of a sudden your DOMINATED utes are something
special?? At least our "cracker boxes" are sold out, unlike the echo
chamber on the hill.
Tom, neither mine, yours, nor Ernie's "vast experience and
expertise" accounts for anything. The officials' opinion is all that
matters. Yours just comes across as sour grapes.
@ Tom in CA7,700 people showed up to watch Utah play Evergreen St.
None of the WCC gyms would be able to hold that many people. They can't
even come close
To those of you who say the charge call was right on Bartley the
announcer's who agreed that it should have been a block are PAC 12
shaybo, no kiddin'?! Well then that settles it! The WCC refs should've
been told that the "PAC 12 announcers" disagreed, they surely
would've changed it then!
Just to educate some of you...there are no Pac-12 officials. The Pac-12, Mtn
West, WAC and WCC all share an officiating pool with the same head of officials.
I'm a BYU fan, but get so tired of BYU fans blaming the officials for
every loss. Find a new line already! Be better sports and treat others better.
It is who we are.....isn't it?
I wasn't going to respond to some of the ute comments, but I can't
help myself...First, Spokane Ute... I appreciate your comments...
It's clear you saw the game and you understand hoops... We just disagree on
a couple of calls and the concept of comparing the number of fouls to determine
whether a game is called objectively.@gored... It's clear from
your comments that you are totally lost... You obviously didn't watch the
game and yet launch criticisms that show that you really don't follow the
sport too closely either... In Basketball (more than any other sport) Home Court
Advantage matters... You might not know that since your team has only played one
game away from the HC so far this season (and you lost that one BTW)...Anyone
that knows anything about College Ball knows that BYU has had a few excellent
years of recruiting (four 4 stars and three 3 stars is excellent) and in fact is
the best in the state... As for coaching, Rose has one of the best win-loss
percentages in the country and has routinely been rated in the top 20 of NCAA
I think all agree (those who saw the game and most of those who didn't but
still had a need to comment)that the Cougs lost the game at the line last
night... From my perspective, the Official's missed some critical calls
that happened to stand out because they occurred at crunch time.
poyman,I don't disagree with you but Carlino was rejected at
the bucket twice at the end of regulation. Somebody needs to put a bridle on him
at crunch time. BTW, I don't ever remember Coach Rose and the team
complaining about the refs.
I never saw a ref with his hand up in the face of BYU players while shooting a
free throw. There called "free" for a reason.
Big R, thank you for reinforcing a point I've tried to drive home to whiny
fans for the last couple of years now. Folks, there's a very informative
website, and since I can't post URLs, I'll just say that it is called
statsheet and ends with the most common American URL ending. It provides stats
for each and every college basketball official, which games they've
officiated, their tendencies of making certain calls, etc.poyman,
there is no denying the Cougs Couged it at the charity stripe. I'll go
ahead and respectfully disagree with calls being missed in crunch time, although
I do believe an out of bounds call awarded to BYU at least warranted a replay in
the final minute (one of the few situations a play can be reviewed in college
basketball) because they resumed play before anyone got any good look at it.
Overall, however, I feel it was called pretty fairly.
@bigrIn close games, officiating is always going to be examined... I
am one who was critical of a couple of late calls... IMHO, Officials of PAC12
games seem to call more fouls and are the most inconsistent during the course
of a game... (I have played and coached at several levels including HS 5A and
Division I).Your comment that the WCC, WAC, MWC and the Pac12 use
the same pool of officials is news to me... That certainly wasn't the case
when I played and coached (but then that was 20 and 40 years ago).Your comment caused me to do a little quick research however, and from what I
could see, in my 5 minute review, was that pretty much all conferences in the
west attend the same "training venues" but they are still scheduled
separately... Although it looks as though the Pac12 and the MWC plan to
intermingle this year under the coordination of the MWC... If you have
additional Info, please share your source.Regarding criticism of
others who questioned the officiating? You need to get over yourself and stop
the hypocritical preaching... People have a right to opinions... Deal with it.
Any word on Luke Worthington?
By the way... Duck fans are a "Classy Group"... It was a tough game,
lots of opportunities for friction but yet many stopped us as we were leaving to
tell us that BYU is one of the toughest teams they have played this year and
many admitted that they should have lost... There were no bad feelings... We
shook hands, laughed, cheered loudly for our respective teams, and patted each
other on the back when we finally left after a heart breaking loss.
Didn't see the game but in this article, NOTHING said about Tyler Haws,
where was this "go to guy" setup where he can make plays and free
These guys can't finish. Carling loses his mind when things are close.
Come on people, have a clue. The Refs last night were NOT Pac 12 refs. They
were WCC refs. The refs didnt beat BYU as many of you wrongly claim. BYU plays
less than NO defense The guards have no idea how to cover anyone. The bigs
will always be in foul trouble because of the guards
@ekute...Little argument on Carlino... It's a two edge sword
though... We needed a hoop at a critical time, would loved to have got it to
Haws but couldn't... Both Bigs had fouled out and Collinsworth can't
shoot free throws, or mid range shots or 3 point shots... Carlino is streaky but
willing to step up and take the responsibility for critical shots... In
retrospect, he should have put up a floater.Rose and the Players
represent the school so they will never criticize or compliment officiating... I
don't have those restraints.@Herbert Gravy...Rose
would love to use Worthington as a reliable back up to BYU's starting
Bigs... The problem is that Luke has shown little Offensive finesse and poor
Defensive Foot Work which leads to a high foul p/min ratio that you can't
afford in crunchtime... IMO, that is the reason he didn't play last
night.@stgtoslc.My main concerns were calls that I
thought were wrong at crunch time... If replay shows the defender was set and
not in the no charge zone, and that Calliste's foot was behind the line on
his first 3 attempt then I'm wrong.
I didn't get to see the game but listened to it on the radio. It sounded
like the team made some good adjustments from earlier in the season as far as
trying to work for good shots and getting the ball more consistently in the
hands of those who shoot for higher percentages. The team has had some struggles
with guys forcing up low percentage shots early in the shot clock instead of
working for high percentage shots. However it seemed that they reverted to the
same problem the last 4 minutes of regulation. It is crucial at that time to
get the ball to your best shooters (Haws) more often and others shouldn't
shoot unless they are wide open or have a good inside look. This means guys like
Carlino have to be more patient. He can keep driving, but he needs to look for
more dish offs or kick outs to open players on those drives.
The refs were WCC refs.Guess we'll have to find another reason
for the loss.
@krux"Come on people, have a clue. The Refs last night were NOT Pac 12
refs. They were WCC refs. "You are incorrect sir! The truth is
they all service both conferences. 2 of the officials spend about equal time in
the WCC as the PAC 12, whereas the head official of that game, Michael Irving,
officiates twice as many games in the PAC12 as he does in the WCC.Yes, there is unlikely any bias from the officials in that game but if there
was, it would probably lean to PAC 12's favor. You really ought to get your
facts straight before you blast the fans.
Make lay-ups, make free throws, bench Carlino. He makes two bonehead plays for
every brilliant play. He's an anchor. He might be a nice kid...but put the
ball in Collinworth's hands and play other guys who will play a team game.
I was wowed by the Coug's tenacity and the way they kept the Ducks on their
webbed heels ...until the end, and we got quacked. Are our guys so rattled by
live games that they just can't get those free throws? I hate to see
certain guys fouled - but we used to be a top FT team in the country? How did
it change? Is it just the athletes or is not that aspect of the game focused on
as much? It's been the difference in wins and losses for us and will
continue to be, unless...and turnovers killed us too. We've been playing
top teams too, and have run well with most. This one and Iowa State will really
stick in our craws.
BYU's problem is CARLINO. That guy gets the ball and because you don't
know what's going to happen, you get games like this. End of regulation, if
Carlino doesn't drive the lane and try and be a hero, waits for the rest of
his team and sets up a play instead of shoot against 3 Oregon players, this game
ends differently with a 2 point basket for BYU and Oregon missing two free
throws as was what happened. Carlino is the difference between 12-1
and 8-5 season.
Like the Ute Football team proved earlier this year, 'almost' just
doesn't cut it. Sure, it's a bit of comfort to know that they hung in
there, but an L is an L, and a W a W.
Cool Cat CosmoFootball and basketball are two entirely different
animals when it comes to the post season. While bowl games only care
about wins and losses, the NCAA tournament selection committee looks at the
whole picture, including good losses and bad wins. In other words,
losing to the #13/#11 team by 4 points, on the road, in overtime, counts as a
very good loss, and is far more impressive to the selection committee than a win
over a 200+ team.
TroyTown, but that credit starts to diminish when just about all a team does is
lose to the quality competition. IMO, BYU will have to avoid any conference
upsets, and at least split the St Mary's series to feel good about NCAA
tournament hopes. They've got a short list of quality wins, and an
ever-growing list of quality losses.
It seems like the number one sport for BYU fans has become blaming the officials
for every game you lose. It's that darn us against them complex they have.
They believe the whole world is against them.
Let's face it. We've got another "Duck Dynasty" here.
It's simple, good teams make free throws. Hmmmmmm unfortunately for BYU
they couldn't hit....
It's quite predictable that Ute fans would try to defend the refereeing
from their living rooms while the people who were actually at the game...
including the TV announcers... saw it for what it actually was... blown calls at
critical times toward the end of the game that literally changed the outcome of
the game. That happened, regardless of the referee conference affiliation.But hey, when you live and die by your PAC12 affiliation, you gotta
stick up for it regardless of whether they are right or wrong. And they were
actually wrong this time... based on how games are officiated around the rest of
here is the game problem in a nutshell MISSED FREE THROWS !! We lost to Iowa
State because of MISSED FREE THROWS, we lost to Wichita State because of MISSED
FREE THROWS. Most of the guys are 50 and 60% free throw shooters for the season
and then there is Tyler Haws who is 90%. What a terrible disparity for college
basketball players. The defense knows that when ever Mika Gets the ball in
clutch situations they are going to do the hack a shak routine and put him on
the line. Bartely, Collingsworth, Austin, Carlino all need to put in major
minutes improving this facet of their game before it costs us anymore wins.
Probably the worst free throw shooting team I can ever recall seeing at any
level in my 45 plus years of watching sports.
Three things made this loss especially difficult to stomach:1)
Losing after being ahead literally 98% of the game.2) Having 3
points taken away by a bad referee call with under a minute to go, that was
proven to be so by replays that couldn't be used to set things right.3) Shooting free-throws worse than an average high school team does...
again! If BYU could shoot them at even close to the NCAA average, they would
have at least 2 wins against nationally ranked (and previously unbeaten) teams.
Shooting free-throws as consistently bad as the Cougars do has got to be blamed
partially on the coaching. The coaches should have Hawes teaching
the rest of the team free-throw fundamentals at the end of every practice for as
long as it takes to achieve measurable significant improvement. Obviously, it
hasn't been enough of a priority.
Motorbike, Poyman,Peeves,I will agree that the officiating was terrible
but it was terrible both ways and inconsistent all night long. But BYU lost the
game not because of them. They just cannot shoot free throws, plain and simple.
If they shoot 75% from the line they win the game. Unless they fix this they
will be lucky to make the NIT.
@ TatorsTo imply that BYU lost the game due to PAC 12 officials is
weak sauce. I watched the entire game. It was called very evenly. BYU missed a
ton of free throws, that's what cost them the game. As far as fouls go:
Personal Fouls: Oregon 22, BYU 23. Free Throws attempted Oregon 31, BYU 36. The
numbers speak for them self. To get those kind of numbers on the road is pretty
unbiased. I don't know what more a road team could expect? Have
a Merry Christmas!
We have to pass it to know what's in it.