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Published: Sunday, Dec. 22 2013 6:57 p.m. MST

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Thid Barker
Victor, ID

The best disinfectant against all the corruption and all the lies of Obamacare is the light of truth! Dr. Krauthammer's diagnosis is spot on!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Charles used to be more open minded, more broad in his articles --

Over the last 2-3 years --
he has become a mind numbing parrot,
is like a SKIP in a record,
spewing the same rhetoric,
on the same topic,
with the same arguments,
to the same audience.

Polly want a cracker?...

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

If we're heading in the direction of Britain's NHS that's great. The problem is the piecemeal way we're going about it.

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

LDS Liberal. Please tell us what parts or any specific things that Dr. Krauthammer wrote in his article that is untrue! All you did was attack him personally! That is disingenuous, irrational and so "liberalistic": Can't debate the message so you attack the messenger!

the old switcharoo
mesa, AZ

Well, as presidential lies go it's pretty benign. Nixon lied and the nation was embarrassed. Reagan lied and gave guns to rebels. Bush lied and a million Iraqis died.

Obama lied and millions of American people had to get a better insurance policy that for most people cost less. Millions more were ALLOWED to buy health insurance or could quit their corporate job they only kept for the insurance.

The gnashing of teeth is getting louder but it's still just a poodle with no other ideas.

Birth certificate, Kenya, death panels, it wasn't our idea.... last years biggest lies.

mountainmoremanly
mesa, AZ

But Krafty, you CAN keep you old terrible health care plan if you want to. Since republicans made such a fuss, the old plans are grandfathered in. It's just that they are more expensive for the care you will get so.....ya, nobody really wants to keep them. Republicans will and have blamed Obama for the weather after all.

the old switcharoo
mesa, AZ

Here's Obama's biggest lie, "The United States Senate — Democrats and Republicans — (voted) to keep our government open."

Politifact says, "Not a single Republican ultimately voted for the bill"

So if you're upset at how the government is working, just remember that ALL of your representatives voted to keep the US government shut down and out of business.

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

LDS Liberal said it very succinctly, but if I might add one other to his very factual list!
Krauthammer never has any "suggestions of his own" just complaints! He is a bitter, bitter man who has never come to terms with Obama's elections!

Kirk R Graves
West Jordan, UT

@LDS Liberal
And yet you aren't disputing anything stated in the article. Truth is still truth, even when you don't like it.

@Hutterite
I lived in the UK for 2 years. You have no idea what you are talking about. The NHS there was so bad that when a friend of mine (a Brit) needed to see the doctor, not only did it take weeks before he could be seen, but I was personally horrified by the conditions of the place. No, moving to a UK style NHS is NOT a good idea.

Kirk R Graves
West Jordan, UT

@the old switcheroo
Nixon was impeached, Iran Contra wasn't a lie, just a poorly executed foreign policy, and to this day, nobody can definitively prove that Bush lied (that there truly was no WMD, or that he was informed correctly about them).

On the other hand, O clearly knew in advance that he was deceiving the American Electorate, and continued right up until it was too late. So, are you proposing that we should follow the Nixon route with O? I would agree with you.

carman
Wasatch Front, UT

The old switcheroo:

re: "Obama lied and millions of American people had to get a better insurance policy that for most people cost less."

What you should have said is, "Obama lied and millions of American people had to get an insurance policy that other Americans were forced to pay for".

ObamaCare does not cost less, it costs more. ObamaCare just forcibly takes from some to pay for medical insurance for others. Let's be clear about what we are saying.

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

I would ask everyone how you will spend the $2500 Obama promise his Obamacare would save the average family in health care insurance premiums? Remember, he promised, so surely it must be true!

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Because the president believes that the end justifies the means, a lie is not considered a lie. Sen. Gillibrand D-NY stated that everyone knew Mr. Obama's 2009 promises were not true. The unfortunate fallacy is that the Affordable Care Act provides neither affordable or universal care.

louie
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"By the Department of Health and Human Services' own estimates, about 75 million Americans with employer-provided insurance will see their plans canceled. And millions of middle-class workers who will migrate to the exchanges and don't qualify for government subsidies will see their premiums, deductibles and co-pays go up." This is a very dishonest and an untrue statement. Changes have occurred, as happens almost every year with insurance policies. According to the California experience, most are seeing improvements, especially with company and large group sponsored programs. Why does the Editorial Board continue to promote falsehoods with this writer.

10CC
Bountiful, UT

Irony:

Charles Krauthammer, in accusing Obama of lying, describes the ACA as a "total federal takeover of healthcare".

Either he thinks the right wing of American politics are mindless zombies, or he wants to break into comedy writing. This is like back in college when you'd write something completely off topic in themiddle of a paper, just to see if the professor actually reads students' papers.

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

Re; Kirk Graves
"On the other hand, O clearly knew in advance that he was deceiving the American Electorate"

I am certain that you must have absolute proof to back that statement up, and equally certain that you would be willing to share it with us! I can't imagine that this would be just another parroting of Right Wing AM radio rhetoric!

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

"Either he thinks the right wing of American politics are mindless zombies, or he wants to break into comedy writing."

Well, he's not remotely funny, so I guess the answer is...

Seriously, Krauthammer writes as though the ACA came straight from the Politburo, and remains willfully oblivious to the fact that the core principals of the ACA originated with the Heritage Foundation and we're implemented successfully in Massachusetts by Governor Mitt.

By the time the 2016 elections roll around the ACA will be firmly in place and operational, and the GOP will have to invent new nonsense to keep FOX viewers' neck veins throbbing and checkbooks open.

esodije
ALBUQUERQUE, NM

Can't wait until we have an NHS, too. Make medicine so non-lucrative that we have to import most or all of our doctors from the developing world. Make our hospitals operate as though they ~were~ in the developing world. Ration care and tell all those useless old/sick people just to go off and die somewhere. Cease research and innovation, and stop investing in new prescription meds. But, hey, single-payer is what the Dems want, so it must be a good idea, right?

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

I wish Krauthammer would cite his sources. I just don't believe all of his made-up statistics and even worse, his doomsday future statistics that are worthy of a sequel to the Minority Report. Ironically, every time the President comes out with his made-up statistics, Krauthammer is the first one to question their veracity. In my opinion, it cuts both ways. It should cut both ways for anyone wanting to know the truth for themselves and are not too lazy or uneducated to dig into them.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

I guess that the right no longer thinks Politifact is just lamestream liberal media.

At least for today.

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