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Published: Saturday, Dec. 21 2013 11:37 p.m. MST

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Lillith70
SLC, UT

The democrats and their green lobbyists run the Forest Service land as if it were all wilderness and the BLM even wilder lands as if they were garbage areas to blight the landscape with huge conglomerate green energy electricity producing plants (meanwhile having made clean burning coal off limits for energy production and Native American economy enhancing).

Topping the mess and mismanagement of national lands "saved for the people" is the fact that Utah gets the blight of visual pollution of its wild lands and open spaces and gluttonous California gets the electricity and another kind of power to dictate more, more more to this remote state.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

If every house would have 2000 watts installed on its roof, in the heat of the summer this could go a long way towards supplying electricity for the air conditioner.

Baron Scarpia
Logan, UT

Subsidies, tax breaks, and incentives for polluting and price-volatile coal, oil, and gas are embedded in tax code, so that they never get debated in Congress or expire, giving those industries a fairly stable and predictable market to continue investments and operations. The result? Continued pollution in Utah valleys and families facing the unpredictability of "global" energy prices.

New price-stable and clean technologies, such as wind and solar, have short-term incentives, which leads to boom and bust cycles of development, so when the incentive sunsets and a do-nothing Congress refuses to renew it in face of hostility from the Koch Bros or TEA Party, you see the renewable energy industry, its manufacturing, its supply chain, and jobs shrink until the incentives are restored. of course, the Koch Bros don't let that happen to their industries.

Wind's Production Tax Credit is destined to expire at the end of the year and while Republican and Democratic state leaders are asking Congress to renew it so that wind can bring economic development to their rural communities, Congress is likely to let it expire, scaring off investors and pulling the rug from underneath the industry once again.

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

Pipe dreams and too costly for home owners to even consider as an upgrade. The 2000 watts are not enough to run an AC air conditioner system. The 2000 watts of DC power has to be converted to 200 watt AC which will not run 2 slice 1500 watt toaster.

Those voltaic roof cells are expensive and failure prone to make them even a viable power source, its an economic disaster for the home owners with 30 years of debt to recover the cost.

These energy companies have been handed billions of dollars to install these Obama folly programs and can never be of any use of value as a consurmer or industrial benefit. Business and homes being shut down without warning becasue of major failures will be a disaster for all. Business will have to close and send workers home and home owners will suffer economic collapses if they loose power even a few days a year.

Green energy is produced by dams, fossil fuels and gas and oils are cheap and in-place and irreplaceable. The Obama folly is nothing more than a Rube Goldberg machine that does not produce any energy or product. Its a toy, a childs toy.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Hurray!

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@Lillith70
SLC, UT

whatever,
We are "saving" America for future generations.
Conservatives are always looking backwards to the past,
we liberals look forward to the future.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

I would rather have solar power…

than the black, sick air Utah has currently.

'EPA inventory shows Utah's sources of greenhouse gas' - By Amy Joi O'Donoghue - 02/05/13 - Published by the Deseret News

'WASHINGTON — The nation's power plants continue to be the single largest stationary source of greenhouse gas emissions, according to new information released Tuesday by the Environmental Protection Agency.'
(sic)
In Utah, 14 power plants are responsible for 75 percent of the state's direct greenhouse gas emissions, releasing 33 million metric tons. '

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

@2cents.... I work for a company that has a 2 megawatt solar farm on site. I am currently working on a PoC forecasting yields from farm 1 and farm 2 as they use different methodologies to track the sun maximizing output. I can tell you categorically that the claims you are making are patently false. It is such a fillet that the worlds largest retailer has a corporate policy to achieve carbon neutrality.

Carbon will continue to be a leading source of energy, no doubt. But companies such as the nations leading generator, Duke Energy, is converting from Coal to natural gas, not because of Obama, but because the economics make sense. The energy field is rapidly changing. Burying your head isn't going to change that reality. Get used to it.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Small steps, but worth the endeavor. The more it is used then more people will give it a try, the more money can go into making it better.

Or we use the conservative plan, keep giving away the kingdom to the "traditional" hydrocarbons, and hold our breath.

rlsintx
Plano, TX

I read these stories from time to time and marvel why the focus is always on generation, and who is going to buy the power from these installations etc.

Its cheaper, simpler and requires no regulation to create negawatts - just not as sexy. Your existing generation will carry the load, easily. For another generation even with population growth.

If just the top 2% most outdated/inefficient energy uses statewide were identified by location, and the newest technology used to upgrade them, you'd far replace any generation created by the same $ investing in new generation.

A/C compressors, motors, LED bulbs, especially in displays/streetlights and in the highest hours used bulbs in homes, schools and businesses (in place of existing HID and incandescent) would far outpace new generation.

And, with their longer lives the reduced roll-costs for bulb replacements would add additional public savings. This year, LED replacements for florescent tubes (like in schools/businesses) are now proving cost effective. There are many case studies of businesses and government units doing this over the past 8-10 years. The ROI is more compelling by the month.

These changes can be done incrementally, and replacement unit costs are dropping all the time.

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