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Published: Friday, Dec. 20 2013 9:50 a.m. MST

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uwishtoo
MESA, AZ

Glad to see that some rational people are seeing this for what it is. It is NOT a "freedom of speech" issue. No one is telling him that he cannot be allowed to spew his untrue statements, the network is merely making it clear they won't stand for such hate speech by one of their "stars" (cough cough)

Archie1954
Vancouver, BC

By your friends so shall they know you.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"By your friends so shall they know you."

What a sad statement. Had Christ followed this admonishment, he would have stayed away from all the socially undesirables of the day - and been very much like the Pharisees. Fortunately, he showed another example. Not sure where I got this bleeding heart liberal notion that we should view everyone as our brothers and sisters - regardless - but I think I am going to stick with it… and not let who my friends are determine who I am.

donquixote84721
Cedar City, UT

I think it is a negative reflection, on Society, when people that have chosen to drop out of main stream society, like the "Ducks," are held up a good example, but putting that aside, when you take money, or anything else of value, from an individual, company or Government, you give up a part of your rights, or in effect sell a part of your Soul.

JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

Re @ Tators; Take the time to read all the words in my post and you'll note that no where did I say "our country" I said in the old south. A simple Google search on the religious and church support for slavery by conservative Christians in the old or pre-civil war south will show that support for slavery from southern pulpits and newspaper editorials was almost uniform.

From Wikipedia "Baptist preachers accommodated themselves to the leadership of southern society. Rather than challenge the gentry on slavery . . . they began to interpret the bible as supporting the practice of slavery." Although they did council paternalistic practices "they preached to slaves to accept their places and obey their masters." and "Many Baptist preachers in the South argued in favor of preserving the right of ministers to be slaveholders".

Just because you don't like what history says doesn't mean you can change it.

the truth
Holladay, UT

@uwishtoo

Except there was NOTHING hateful in it.

Just an expression of his religious faith and convictions.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

Technically this is not really a free speech issue. A&E is a private entity, and as such it can fire an employee for making statements it disagrees with. The one issue is are they violating Robertson's religious freedom, because they have to respect the religious rights of employees.

SS
MiddleofNowhere, Utah

First off, you can bet if this were a member of the LGBT community who had expressed their beliefs in a separate venue, and then suspended from their job, the whole nation would be up in arms and Obama probably would have said something about it by now.

Second, many of you are making some pretty big claims and assumptions about Robertson's contract with A&E, writing things like, "He must have broke some part of his contract with A&E for them to suspend him." You have no idea what the contract states, you are grasping at straws and anything else to make yourselves feel better. I'm pretty sure no one would ever sign a contract that stated they could not express their beliefs even if someone directly asks them to.

Contrariuserer
mid-state, TN

@ SS --

"I'm pretty sure no one would ever sign a contract that stated they could not express their beliefs even if someone directly asks them to."

Actually, people sign that type of contract all the time.

SS
MiddleofNowhere, Utah

Again, making claims without so much as an example. I am almost certain that his contract with A&E doesn't explicitly mention that he cannot express his personal beliefs on his free time. The fact is he does it all of the time on the show, so what is the difference? People are just hoping that's what it is so they can feel validated. Really, it doesn't matter because neither you or I really know what's in his contract, so why are people guessing that's what "it must be."

Contrariuserer
mid-state, TN

@ SS --

"Again, making claims without so much as an example."

Google these: "nondisclosure agreement", "gag clause", "promise of silence", "morals clause"

From one article on this controversy:

"TheWrap spoke to multiple legal experts who said that, if Robertson's contract contained a morals clause, as if often the case with on-air talent, than the reality TV star has little in the way of legal recourse. Often, such morals clauses note that, if talents speaks or acts in a way that insults or denigrates people, the producer reserves the right to suspend or terminate that talent. And typically, defining such language or actions is left to the discretion of the studio; basically, "if we say it is so, it is." Tough to mount a legal argument against that."

"Entertainment attorney Neville Johnson also noted that talent agreements generally tend to favor the networks. “If you see these talent agreements, they basically say they can do everything except torture you,” Johnson said."

""He has no First Amendment [complaint] against A&E," Eugene Volokh, a professor at UCLA School of Law told TheWrap. "

Really???
Kearns, UT

I will believe Sarah Palin's sincerity when she sits down in front of the cameras with Martin Bashir to discuss the first amendment. I will believe Glenn Beck's sincerity when he also offers Dan Savage a column on his website or a show on his network. I will believe Mike Huckabee's sincerity when he poses for a Christmas photo with Barack Obama, tours Temple Square with the National Jewish Democratic Council, and offers to buy Chick-fil-a sandwiched for anyone who has contributed money to the HRC this past year.

They are not outraged about free speech here, they saw an opportunity to snag a little bit of attention for their own purposes. It's a political ploy for each one of them, and don't buy into their false outrage.

Aloha Saint George
Saint George, Utah

Humans are the only race that will live in an unstable environment, live in in long enough, until they really believe it's stable. Kinda funny all the rhetoric about a 'black kettle'. It's black, so what. But a lot of people spend a lot of time trying to convince themselves that it's not black.

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