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Published: Friday, Dec. 20 2013 9:37 a.m. MST

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Contrariuser
mid-state, TN

@sharrona --

"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. .(Mt 7:19-20)"

Go back and reread the sermon excerpt that Ranch posted.

Wait. I'll post it for you again:

"Women with women. Men with men. They committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions. They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil."

That's some pretty hateful fruits, Sharrona. It seems pretty easy to know Robertson's heart from those hateful words.

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: Contrariuser, Check Romans 1:22-27 and 1 Cor 6:9).

Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.(Peter)

To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain single as I do. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion." (1 Corinthians 7:8-9 RSV)

Or in this case. Mother Teresa loved those who had same-sex attractions, but she still called them to purity. In fact, it is precisely because she loved them that she called them to practice chastity. It is a false form of compassion to lead others to think that they can find fulfillment by living outside the will of God.

Contrariusier
mid-state, TN

@sharrona --

"Check Romans 1:22-27 and 1 Cor 6:9)."

I already know what Paul said.

Paul supported slavery.

Paul taught that women were inferior to men.

Paul taught that it was better to remain single than to marry.

Paul taught -- in direct contradiction to Jesus -- that people should never get divorced for any reason.

Do you agree with everything Paul taught?

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

The New Testament - the Apostle Paul - includes homosexual relations along with adultery and fornication as major sins barring one from Celestial Glory. Phil Robertson simply quoted that scripture in Corinthians. I guess these are indeed anti-gay and anti-adultery and anti-fornication scriptures and the New Testament is a blueprint for qualification to a higher degree of glory. Should Christians be fearful of reading their scriptures in a public forum - fearing to be fired or jailed? That is the real question. It this the America we fought for in WWII against Nazi oppression and cold ward Soviet barded wire walls? The right to speak with out fear. When does the state now sanction only politically correct speech with out consequences? Wake liberals because the same PC culture that fired Phil Robertson can also fire you when you speak out against the state.

Contrariusiest
mid-state, TN

@patriot --

"Phil Robertson simply quoted that scripture in Corinthians."

That is not all Robertson has had to say about gay people.

Here's an excerpt from a sermon of his:

"Women with women. Men with men. They committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions. They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil."

Now do you think he's just "quoting scripture"?

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: contrariuser, "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God" ( II Timothy 3:15-17).

There are no contradictions between the different verses of the Bible because "spiritual things or spiritual truths are expressed in spiritual words" (I Cor. 2:13).

God is the ultimate author of all the books and letters in the Bible though it was spoken and/or written by the Prophets, the Lord Jesus Christ and the Apostles as they were inspired and moved by the Holy Spirit. (II Peter1:20-21).

Mt 24:37-39, Jesus..( For as in the(Noah’s) days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,
Not only did men marry men and women marry women in the days of Noah, but they wrote marriage contracts for “those relationships”, just as the world is doing today, same-sex marriage not exactly reassuring. The last time it happened, God’s judgement destroyed the world.

Ecc 1:9: “…there is no new thing under the sun.” Per Solomon, Human’s hearts and their corruptions are the same now as in former times.

Contrariusier
mid-state, TN

@sharrona --

"There are no contradictions between the different verses of the Bible"

Of course there are. I've quoted you just a couple of them. Pretending them away doesn't actually change the facts.

" The last time it happened, God's judgement destroyed the world."

Ummmm, no it didn't.

God didn't destroy the world for the 1000 years that the Greeks encouraged homosexual relationships.

God didn't destroy the world for the 1000 years that the Romans encouraged homosexual relationships.

God didn't destroy the world for the however-many years the ancient Chinese culture recognized homosexual relationships as perfectly normal.

God didn't destroy the world for the however-many years the Hindu faith was teaching about their gods who were born from same-sex unions, and placing explicit depictions of same-sex relationships on their temples.

Reality is often quite different from what some book happens to claim.

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