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Published: Friday, Dec. 20 2013 9:37 a.m. MST

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TeaPublican
Houston, TX

This is all a test for all of us to see if we will defend God’s will and HIS standards! It’s all in our hands! This IS America and Phil has the right to say what he wants to say! A&E does not have the right to fire him for his religious beliefs that come right from the Bible! You should be able in OUR America to say whatever you want without consequences …..after all this IS America! He has every right to make whatever comments he wants to make and his employer does NOT have the right to fire or suspend him for comments they THINK are detrimental to their company! I am so happy that our Republican leaders have come out in support of Phil and of God! Hang on America! We Republicans ARE taking back OUR America in 2014 and 2016! And we will take back our free speech too! “P n P” in 2016! Perry n Palin! Yes, it IS going to happen!

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

@sammyg --

"In defense of Phil Robertson... he was baited by the media."

Oh please.

The question was "What, in your mind, is sinful?". There are MANY ways to answer that question without attacking people.

Oh, and amongst other wild accusations, he even blamed Shintoism for Pearl Harbor. Ummm. Really??

@JNA --

"Number 1, the gay and lesbian community has nothing against them, they are the most protected group on the planet. "

Gay people are still EIGHT TIMES more likely to be the victims of violent crimes than straight people.

In some countries, you can still be PUT TO DEATH just for being gay.

And you think that gays are "the most protected group on the planet"?? Seriously??

Welcome to reality.

Meadow Lark Mark
IDAHO FALLS, ID

First I think there is a lot of hurtful words said on both sides of the fence. It is interesting though that this man expressed his opinion and gets condemned for it. I do agree with Chris above that if our views agree with an opposing group then everything is ok, but if we express a view that disagrees with what someone else thinks then we are a bigot or worse. Whatever happened to free speech?

bigv56
Cottonwood, CA

Boycott A and E and any sponsors that pull their ads. Gays Are 4% of the population!but a huge percentage of Hollywood. We need to make ourselves heard and drive the narrative. The Gay agenda is leeching into too many important places.

David
Centerville, UT

Miley Cyrus acts out on stage and there is no censorship, no corporate backlash. Instead, her artistic style is celebrated.

I see an inconsistency and hypocrisy here.

A&E would not fire Robertson for his comments if A&E did not fear consumer backlash. I doubt most Americans give his comments a 2nd thought and are ready to move on. But the gay community, as a small minority, possesses inordinate amount of power to destroy lives.

If A&E kept Robertson on the show, I would venture to bet that the shows popularity would be unchanged, and perhaps even grow.

Eliyahu
Pleasant Grove, UT

1. A&E took action on this before there was any "firestorm" about his comments. This is their right as a corporation -- to look out for what they see as their own interests, and is a value cherished by conservatives. He can always get a job as a Fox commentator.

2. I'm much more disturbed by his notions about blacks in the pre-civil rights era than I am about his opinions on homosexuality. Does he honestly believe that blacks who worked in the cotton fields in the south were so happy with their lot that they spent their days singing as they worked, and that they were never treated badly by whites? I think his memory has been befuddled by too many watchings of his bootleg copy (it's never been officially released) of Song of the South.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Give em enough rope...
Phil continued..."Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash," he said. "They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, I tell you what: These doggone white people;not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Robertson also shares an interesting rationale for voting for Mitt Romney over President Obama, saying he favored the candidate because he was from Salt Lake City, a safer city than Chicago.
Awe another informed conservative.

TeaPublican said: A&E does not have the right to fire him for his religious beliefs that come right from the Bible!

Your right, because he is protected by anti-discrimination laws which conservatives find unnecessary except when it comes to defending religion. The part your missing is he's under contract, they do own him, as long as he's taking their money. Of course as is daily pointed out by our conservative posters "he could just get another job, no body is forcing him to work for A & E.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

No man should be forced to reject their religious beliefs or suppress them when asked direct questions.

This incident is part of the left's chronic demands for "Tolerance for me, but not for thee!"

This also reflects the left's long standing war on religion, indeed all religions, except Islam, of whom they are very protective even though Islam condemns much of what the left adores. Remember, A&E previously objected to the Robertson's prayers at the end of the show.

By focusing on this particular incident A&E clearly wants to exert more control over content of the show. Hey, it's their network- they can sir what they want, or not. Clearly the Robertson's lifestyle with hunting, guns, family and religion all conflict with A&E's left-leaning beliefs. If they lose their biggest show, they appease their base. If they get the Ducksters to dump their religion, family, gun and hunting values, they score even bigger points.

Robertsons are free to work or not for A&E (subject to contract limitations) and I hope they leave A&E and take their show elsewhere.

I'm with Phil, and now despise A&E.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

@ Contrariusiests:

As has happened so often in the past, you are off-subject again. The article and Chris B's comment was all about homosexuality and people's right to express their opinion of it. Obviously, it's a controversial moral-based subject.

Yet your reply to Chris B's comments was all politically based. The Dixie Chicks and people disagreeing with the U.S. President have nothing to do with homosexuality or a person's right to express his opinion about it. BYW: That's what this article and all the other comments are about. Perhaps you should re-read and try again.

We do live in a double standard world. No one working for a public company ever gets in trouble for pro-homosexualality comments. But people often do for voicing their opinion when it's opposing to it... even if they are simply being honest and sincere, which this guy was being.

Gay and Lesbians are constantly asking for tolerance, but seldom ever offer it to those they are usually addressing... those who perhaps disagree with them. It's actually quite hypocritical.

Chris B and JNA are exactly correct in this regard.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Meadow Lark Mark said:
"I do agree with Chris above that if our views agree with an opposing group then everything is ok, but if we express a view that disagrees with what someone else thinks then we are a bigot or worse. Whatever happened to free speech?"

You are completely free to say racist and bigoted things, that's your free speech.

However, you are responsible for what you say.

Taking responsibility, where have I heard that?

Being "free speech" doesn't change what is said.

Bebyebe
UUU, UT

The LBGT movement didn't suspend him. A&E did. Write and express your opinion to them.

Free speech isn't violated.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@Meadow Lark Mark
"Whatever happened to free speech?"

The 1st amendment is about gov't intrusion on free speech. A company though...

Shaun
Sandy, UT

I remember when the Bulls were playing the Jazz and Dennis Rodman made comments about Mormons. It got him a fine of 50k from the NBA. Many people in this community were up in arms and outraged that he made those comments but nobody was defending his right to free speech.

Contrariuser
mid-state, TN

@DN Subscriber 2 --

"No man should be forced to reject their religious beliefs or suppress them when asked direct questions. "

The question was "what do you find sinful?". There are MANY ways to answer that question without attacking people.

"This incident is part of the left's chronic demands for "Tolerance for me, but not for thee!""

Two words: Dixie Chicks.

@Tators --

"The article and Chris B's comment was all about homosexuality and people's right to express their opinion of it."

The article is about freedom of speech, tolerance, and consequences for speaking one's mind.

The Dixie Chicks case is a perfect example of those issues.

"No one working for a public company ever gets in trouble for pro-homosexualality comments. But people often do for voicing their opinion when it's opposing to it... "

Bigotry does tend to have consequences. No surprise there.

Robertson is under contract to A&E. They have every right to enforce their contract.

Conservatives believe in employers' rights -- right?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I still don't think his comments were "anti-gay". I don't think he is "anti-gay". I don't think he dislikes any gay person. It was just his religious beliefs, and his opinion. Is anything short of full acceptance of gay marriage and gay sexual behavior as "normal"... "Anti-Gay"?

I think you would be able to find a few people who think gay sexual behavior is not "normal". Is that "anti-gay"?

For me gay sexual behavior is not natural. Does that make me "anti-gay"?

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On the drive home a lady from Utah called in and identified herself as gay and Mormon. And she expressed that she didn't see his comments as hateful or anti-gay. They were just HIS opinion and HIS thoughts on the subject. She didn't agree with him, but that's OK. He has the right to his own opinion.

She also said she didn't experience persecution here in Utah or in her church, and that she has remained completely active in her church and feels nothing but love and support from her religious friends and neighbors. That kinda surprised me, but in a good way.

GZE
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

There are several things bothering me about people's responses to this incident.
First, and most troubling, is how many people don't understand the nature of our right to free speech. The government did not knock down his door and throw him in solitary for his comments; his employer chose to terminate him. We each have the right to say whatever we want; there are consequences, however.
Second, I have heard conservatives rant that employers have the right to run their companies however they want. Teachers unions are bad; schools should be able to fire any teacher they want at any time for any reason. Employers have the right to tell employees they can't wear a hajib or use the break room for daily prayers.

GZE
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

And the continued notion that "pro-gay" comments are the opposite of "anti-gay" comments. They are not. "Pro-gay" comments are the opposite of "pro-straight" comments. "I have the right to marry" is the same as "I have the right to marry." The problem with the "anti-gay" crowd is they never stop at "my marriage is great." They always have to add "and yours isn't."
And, finally, that anything involved with Duck Dynasty is national news.

Coach Biff
Lehi, UT

Really, Contrairius, we have had enough of gay "victimhood". Hasn't the Matthew Shepherd sham shown you that much of the perceived discrimination is made up? How about the lesbian waitress who made up the story of the couple who stiffed her on a tip because she was gay? Progressives are putting on a full court press to further gay causes with a lap dog media doing most of the heavy lifting. Phil Robertson, however inarticulate, was only giving his opinion on homosexuality. He doesn't appear to hate gays, he just thinks homosexual activity, along with extramarital heterosexuality is a sin. Is it hateful to express an opinion contrary to your narrative now?

Really???
Kearns, UT

Actually, all I want is to be able to go to work each day and not have to worry about what derogatory comments are going to be said about me during the day. I would like to not have to be so protective of my private life that nobody at work really knows much about me other than what I do while on the clock. I would like to be able to go running in the neighborhood park without being assaulted because my v-neck T-shirt looks too gay. I would like to go through an entire week without being reminded that so many of my neighbors are uncomfortable with who I am.

I don't want to take control of this country, but I want to finally be allowed to take control of my own life.

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