Published: Thursday, Dec. 19 2013 12:00 a.m. MST
@2 bits --"When did people think being left handed was terrible?
I think you're being a little over-dramatic about it."No
she isn't."left-handed people have frequently been
subjected to deliberate discrimination and disparagement. In many societies,
they are considered unlucky or even malicious by the right-handed majority. ...
Even in relatively "modern" societies, left-handed people historically
have been—and in some places still are—forced from childhood to use
their right hands for tasks which they would naturally perform with the left,
such as eating and writing."@jsf --"Not in North
Dakota as of last week."Like many states, ND is ignoring the
Full Faith and Credit clause of the US Constitution. This is the result.The man in ND that you are talking about is married to another man -- in
a different state. But his same-sex marriage isn't recognized in ND.
Therefore, according to ND law, he is still single.And therefore,
according to ND law, he is NOT committing bigamy by marrying a woman. According
to ND law, he will only have one legal spouse -- the wife.Now see
what trouble states can get themselves into when they ignore the Constitution?
The Constitution forbids the Federal Government from interfering in an
establishment of religion. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not an American.
To: To BitsYou must have heard the stories I've known almost all my
life where it was rumored that left handed children used to sometimes get their
hands tied behind their backs to make them right handed. I have also read in
numerous stories that they were sometimes considered "of the devil" or
perhaps evil. Also, people used to get made fun of in school for it, (not much
with me,) but I have had comments (maybe for fun, so I always smile) of things
like "So, that's what's wrong with you?"I never assume
the extremes or stereotypes of people and have had a large variety of friends
including gay people. But you should also read how hard it's been for gay
people to fit into society and how they have many sad stories. There has been
lots of bullying, housing rights denied and families kicking them out for being
this way! There is increased suicide and many problems they live with each day.
And I believe in the polygamists equal rights as long as they give their people
their equal rights.
Casual Observer:People should not practice adultery (having mistresses) or
practice bigamy or polygamy because of the heartache that it's been shown
to cause people. That's not to say we should persecute the children that
are the result of it. Yes, they should be supported and helped (and a judge will
order that) But the person that broke the law and hurt people in that way should
be made to pay the cost. It wouldn't help anybody if a person that has
conceived a child with someone that they shouldn't have legally married the
person. That would just give encouragement to others to do the same when we
should discourage behavior that ultimately hurts people.
Contrariusiests,The mock drama around widespread left handed
discrimination and oppression is just laughable. But I like a good laugh.It must be a "right-handed majority" conspiracy... right?I can just envision someone following you around all the time forcing
you to use your right hand... it's very funny.I have many left
handed friends. Nobody from the right handed majority follows them around
forcing them to use their right hand.Oh wait... were you serious?
@2bits --"The mock drama around widespread left handed
discrimination and oppression is just laughable. "Mock
drama???You obviously aren't left-handed.I am.In the US it's more of a historical issue -- but it's still a
real problem in other parts of the world.Just read the wikipedia
entry on it. Google "left-handed discrimination" and you'll find
North Dakota does not recognize SSM, so the AG simply said a SSM performed in
another state is not recognized in ND. Therefore a man who was wed to another
man under another state's SSM law, could legally marry a woman in ND
because the SSM marriage is not recognized. The world will now end in 10, 9,
@ 2 bits: My mother is left handed - although she can print semi legibly with
her right hand - because the first two years of school every time she used her
left hand for anything she would get smacked with a ruler. So yes, for several
hours every day my mother was followed around and forced to use her right hand.
And, no - she didn't think it was a laughing matter then and she still
finds no humor in the situation.
Just how do you "wine" to a court. Do you take a jug and pour it over
the head of the Judge?
@Mike RichardsSouth Jordan, UtahThe Constitution forbids the
Federal Government from interfering in an establishment of religion. Anyone who
thinks otherwise is not an American.2:08 p.m. Dec. 19, 2013========So you support Warren Jeffs and the FLDS?
Most of the men I know professionally have been with many women in their
lifetimes and some have children with multiple women. If an alien
were to look at our society completely objectively, I don't think they
would say the majority of humans are monogamous.
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