rvalens2Asik will ruin the Jazz cap flexibility for next season. No
"I wanted to ask any of you feel like trading Kanter for Asik?" -
KakashiI say the jury is still out on Kanter. The kid definitely has
potential. At this point in time, I think it's still too early to trade
him; unless, an incredible trade surfaces. A trade for Asik, in my opinion, is
not that great a deal.Over the past few years, Kanter missed a lot
of basketball. I would hate to see the Jazz trade him, only to see him
eventually become an All Star.
next year we would get a quality back up PG in Raul Neto...I wonder what
happened to the Kanter last year? who played decent to good D...his rotations
now are off on D...and made him Big Al 2.0...someone needs to remind Kanter that
Basketball is played at both ends of the court...but the guy is still young and
he will need time...winning is bittersweet...and i really hope we get someone
like Jabari or Randle...we are one superstar potential talent away to comeback
into the thick of things...and a couple of more years to be in
contention...Hayward is a solid utility man...but i hope we dont
overpay....Burks is a threat...and i know that dallas likes him a lot...i wanted
to ask any of you feel like trading Kanter for Asik? or wait it out and see what
Kanter will bring...i just find it hard to see how Kanter will develop...getting
a few garbage minutes...is a hit to his confidence...and he might have doubts
that the coach trust him at this point...
Don't worry guys. Come trade deadline my guess is the Jazz will possibly
be dangling Marvin Williams, Jefferson, Rush, and or Biedrins....if they are
able to get a teams first round pick then they could in turn trade that
(combined with other picks they have pile up) to possibly move up in the
draft.A trade, especially if it is Marvin or Jefferson, will
increase losses. They are both helping the team win some games. If either of
them go then I suspect we will lose some more games and improve draft
position.We went 1-14. The painful record is already here so lets
make sure we use it. The reverse thinking is that if these young guys are
already to put it together and win way more games than they were supposed to
then I guess that just means you are ahead of the rebuild schedule.The problem is you have to have a star in this league or you aren't
winning it all......and it can't be your PG leading your team in scoring.
Stern and the refs have colluded to ensure superstars get all the calls in the
@Man in ChargeThe Jazz have already passed Milwaukee and are only
about a win away from passing teams like Sacramento, Orlando, Philadelphia and
even New York. Just because they are in the 3 worst records at this moment says
nothing about where they will be in April, as just a few weeks ago thye easily
had the worst record locked up; now they stand the likeliehood of not even
making the bottom ten. With a 6-7 record in their last 13 games, reasonable
expectations should be adjusted to a 30+ win season. Talk of winning 20 are just
not realistic based on recent results.
If the jazz win 20+ games that's still enough for them to be positioned in
the top 3 in the draft. The worst team only has a 38% change to land the top
pick. That doesn't change by win percentage either. Parker may not even be
the first player picked even. It's still way too early to tell.
gehelmke"In watching Kanter go out there and make the same
mistakes he's always made, over and over again, I am of the opinion that
some consideration should be given to playing him a lot more, so as to make him
viable trade bait to possibly move up in the draft."Kanter or
anybody on the Jazz roster will not be able to move the jazz up in the draft
this year. Maybe they can get a mid to late first round pick. It's going to
take the likes of Durant or George to move up in this years draft.
If the Jazz keep winniing at this pace, which record stands exactly at one win
for every three losses, they stand to win at least 20 games this year. But is
that too much? We will see other teams go into full tank mode about February,
for an example look at how Golden State did it two years ago, and that means if
these teams are only a few games ahead of the Jazz in February there is no
chance the Jazz finish with the worst record. Plus, the record of the Jazz is
7-13 since losing the first eight games of the year, plus, since Trey Burke
became healthy they have been on a pace to possibly even break the 30 win mark.
The time might be to start being a little concerned in those of us on the safari
for Jabari bandwagon. Maybe Corbin is coaching too good for the plan we should
be sticking to, maybe he can be tempoarily reassigned somewhere in the
organization and they can promote the announcer David Locke to coach the team to
get us where we need to go this year.
Was just studying the standings, and if I'm reading it right, the Jazz are
on the fringe of being the fourth worst team in the league......Considering that
they have played mostly good teams so far, there exists a good possibility
they'll wind up with a 7th or 8th pick in the upcoming draft.In
watching Kanter go out there and make the same mistakes he's always made,
over and over again, I am of the opinion that some consideration should be given
to playing him a lot more, so as to make him viable trade bait to possibly move
up in the draft. Considering the problems we have had over the years getting
free agents to move to Utah, it seems imperative that we get high draft
choices....This, of course, would also be an opportunity for Kanter to get over
his problems.Gobert is in the D-League, but he is a better performer
than Kanter right now defensively....On a team whch has plenty of offense, that
makes Gobert a better choice.
There appears to be a chemistry developing between Burke and Favors. It appears
to have the uniqueness of Malone-Stockton or even Rowdy Yates and Gil Favor of
"Rawhide" fame. Actually, it is gratifying to watch the "young
'uns" grow before your very eyes. I would hope that these young men
realize the privileged status that they have been given and use it to help those
less fortunate in their community.
The jazz beat an 8-19 team on the road so I'll give them that and Trey
Burke is proving to be a pretty darn good point guard, especially as a rookie so
I'll give him that, but the Jazz are still 7-21. With the season 1/3 over
they should still make the lottery. I'm excited to see the
projected upward trajectory over the next few years. This is what rebuilding
really is about.
Let's put a lid on this kid before the Jazz play their way out of a top 3
Match-up between Trey & Vic (they play different positions)didn't go as
advertised. Trey had a much better, all-around game. Their stories are
interesting with some parallels. Check out their rookie rankings on nba.com.
Jazz heading to Atlanta, Charlotte and Memphis and hopefully will miss most of
some very bad weather. Rudy Gobert had his second consecutive strong outing for
the Bakersfield Jam last night, even made 8 of 12 free throws. Clark is
struggling a bit.
Great win. Post D-will, many players have tried to be the leader with some
success. Millsap, Al, Gordon H, Mo Williams. But, all of them somehow seemed to
fall short. That is, there was that nagging feeling they were better off as #2
OR #3 player. Now we have Trey making the case. It feels, for now at least, he
just might be that guy. He has the poise, the game, humility and that tough to
measure quality to make the players around him play better. Excited! Oh, and I wish fans would stop harping about losing for a top pick who would
miraculously make jazz a championship contender. There is no such guarantee and
I personally feel Jazz has enough talent right now to compete with the top teams
in a year or 2.
Trey Burke is going to ruin the plan. He's too good for the Jazz to lose
as many games as they need to in order to get Jabari. More shots and game
ending situations for Hayward would do the trick and insure a horrible record.
The Jazz have the best player of the 2013 draft (TB)!! Management has also done
well the past three years in the draft and I can't wait tell the Jazz
players really start clicking in two years time and win 20 out of 25 games like
the Portland Trail Blazers have done recently. As I have stated previously the
Jazz will win at least 30 to 35 games this year as long as the fab five stay
healthy. I see at least 2 wins out of the next four games. Go Jazz!!!!!!
Trey Burke with D will in his prime like numbers. Most Impressive. I would like
to see Kanter starting as well. Why not find out what the kid can do.
Make hay while the sun shines. A must win when the other teams best scorer is
ill. I really enjoy seeing Burke and Burks play together.
Trey is just going to get better and better. I don't know the last time the
Jazz had a point guard score 30. He really tried to get other players involved
but the Jazz were not shooting the ball well other than Burke and he had to keep
scoring. Kanter was a mess tonight and it really seems like he does play better
when he starts. I respect what Marvin Williams has done this year but I wish
Corbin would just start Kanter, let him play and whatever happens, happens. We
need to get that 1st or 2nd pick in the draft anyway so if we win fewer games
with Williams and Jefferson getting fewer minutes so be it.