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Published: Wednesday, Dec. 18 2013 10:39 a.m. MST

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Baron Scarpia
Logan, UT

This could be interesting! With growing frustration with the GOP caucus system in Utah and anger over Mike Lee/Tea Party antics, a fractured Utah GOP could allow a successful moderate Democrat take the governorship or Hatch's Senate seat in the coming years.

While I haven't always agreed with Matheson or Bennett, it was those types of middle-of-the-road, get-things-done policymakers that gave Utah clout on the national stage.

Edgar
Samaria, ID

Thanks for writing this fitting tribute to a dedicated public servant. No doubt Congressman Matheson learned his pragmatic approach to politics from his father, Governor Scott Matheson.

"He became a convincing counter to the accusation that state residents mindlessly vote for Republicans regardless of other factors."

That's certainly a point well taken and so fortunate for Utah to have had the Congressman there to vote for when the evidence of that accusation is so overwhelming in every other national office over the past 30 years. Hopefully there will be another such pragmatic and dedicated candidate on the Democratic ticket that will allow Utah the chance to avoid that "one sided" label in the future.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

How many times did Matheson cross his leadership, (Pelosi ect.)? As I recall, he campaigned as a cross the isle moderate, but when the chips were down, he was a dependable Democrat vote, unless they had enough to let him off the hook, and give him cover, which is a political game that only informed voters would even understand. Matheson a Democrat through and through, and now hopefully Utah gets what it needs, a Republican through and through. Especially since, as of now, 2014 is definately trending toward the Republicans due to the most unpopular President at this jucture of his Presidency since Richard Nixon.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

I suspect the real reason he is opting out is because he knows there will be a huge Obamacare backlash coming and he would not have been re-elected on that basis anyway!

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

I agree with SCfan. Can someone please list a single vote by Matheson in congress, where he went against his party and his vote made the difference?

Obamacare is the perfect example. Without his vote, it would not have passed. The people of Utah were overwhelmingly against it (as were most districts in the U.S.), yet he followed the party line.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

@SCFan... actually... Bush version 2.0 had ratings just lower.... but who is counting anyway. I am not sure how popular the president is makes much difference to how people vote for local reps. Do they really say "if the president were more popular, I would vote democrat" down in Utah Valley? Somehow I doubt it.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Remmeber his lining up with Obama on Obamacare in return for his brothers Judgeship?

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

Since he isn't going anywhere, I don't think he will be missed by anyone. He has his eye on a different office, one that doesn't have Mia Love opposing him on the ballot.

SCfan and Joecapitalist have it right. I think he asked Nancy's permission to vote with the conservatives so he could claim he was a moderate, and he got the permission whenever the vote would not be close enough to need him. But if the vote looked like it would be close, he voted with the liberal democrats, EVERY TIME.

I understand why Utah democrats loved him. He was their fox in the hen house.

I do wonder why the moderates couldn't see through his lies about being a moderate. Two faced is more like it.

Kind words from Hatch aren't really from across the aisle. Hatch jumped ship from conservatism decades ago, and is a RINO all the way. If Matheson did get his office when he retires, the only change would be the letter after the name. The votes would look the same, not because Matheson is a moderate, but because Hatch is a liberal.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

That's too bad. I felt he was one of the "good guys" in Washington, and our only insider on what's going on in the Democrat party back there. I don't think we will be able to fully replace him. He will be missed.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

In the two plus years I have been back in the State, "Democrat" Mattheson did often voted mindlessly for whatever partisan attack the Republican Party was pushing at the time. Impeach the Attorney General? why sure! Shutdown the Government, that's the ticket! Give 40 million people a chance to get heathcare? No! 40 times No!

I was surprised that he didn't call for Obama to produce a birth certificate.

Run for Goveror Mattheson, so I can vote against you, because these days, I just can't vote for any Republican, especially one so partisan as you, especially for one that cost this state millions of dollars.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

UtahBlueDevil
Well, people do seem to vote according to which party they seem to think is doing the most good or bad. And in the case of the party that has the President in office, it usually revolves around him. Nixon unpopular and lost a lot of congressional seats, Bush 2.0, not popular and lost a lot of congressional seats. Ect. And the people who swing elections are not the ones who are committed Republicans down in Utah Valley and will always vote Republican, or the committed Democrats, in West Valley, who will always vote Democrat. In most elections, especially in purple states, the swing/independent/ voters are the ones who decide elections. Here in Utah, I'm surprised any Democrat ever gets elected to office.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

I would be in favor of a "secret ballot" in congress where at the time they vote, no member of congress knows for sure if their vote will be the deciding factor or not.

Once all the votes have been cast, then the secret is out and everyone gets to see who voted which way on the issue. This would prevent most of the so-called "moderates" on both sides of the aisle from deceiving their voters by appearing to be more moderate than they really are.

Currently, if a congressman wants to vote with his party on an issue, but knows that goes against most of the voters in his district, he can currently wait to vote until he knows his party has already secured all the votes it needs, then vote the opposite. However, if he knows the vote depends on his vote, he votes the party line.

Then in the next election he says "I am a moderate. See, I voted against my party 90% of the time (when it didn't count) and only voted with my party 10% of the time (when it really did count)".

Mark Markarian
Pleasantville, NY

Whether it’s this papers editorial staff inferring that Republicans “mindlessly vote along party lines regardless of other factors” or John Podesta comparing Republicans to a cult which perpetrated a mass murder-suicide, the hatred Democrats have for Republicans force all Republicans to vote the party line.

This will not end until Democrats move towards the center, reducing Republicans need to vote and support the party’s lines.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Matheson pursuaded Utah to do a really dumb thing, and for this I see his service as a net negative to the state of Utah.

Energy Solutions accepts waste for disposal. They needed permission to accept some waste from foreign countries. Energy solutions offered Utah half a billion dollars if they were allowed to bring this waste in.Because of his active opposition, this offer was rejected.

Was the waste too dangerous? Well it was the same type of waste that Energy Solutions is already accepting from other parts of the United States. The only difference being the place of origin.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . [Matheson] became a convincing counter to the accusation that state residents mindlessly vote for Republicans . . . ."

But not to the accusation that too many Utah Democrats mindlessly vote for Democrats.

Assuming Mr. Matheson is replaced by someone who leans conservative, he'll only be missed by that tiny, iconoclastic community of Utah liberals.

He could'a been a contender.

He could have stood up to liberal, socialist elements that are ruining his [and my] party and ruining America. He could have styled himself along the lines of a Jack Kennedy, or an Artur Davis, or a Zell Miller. He could have shown real courage and real integrity.

But no. Instead, he went along to get along.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"I would be in favor of a "secret ballot" in congress where at the time they vote, no member of congress knows for sure if their vote will be the deciding factor or not."

I see where this could be good… but we also need accountability. Perhaps another way of doing it is now they can watch the vote, and decide to vote late if they want to make sure their vote doesn't count. That way everyone finds out how the others voted all at once. Not sure….

SCFan…. I get ya. I happen to live in a very purple state right now. At the local level, we just went conservative in a big way. There is significant backlash against what they did, versus the perception of how Obamacare is doing. It will be interesting to see in a year from now which of those factors carries the day.

Reason??
Farr West, UT

I have a hard time praising these incumbent public servants that have voted (compromised)our country to a 17 Trillion (with a "T") debt, and just voted to raise it that to 25 Trillion (Thanks to both Matheson, Javez and Hatch). When will the good old boys in Washington stop spending money we don't have?? 30 Trillion, 50 Trillion? Or maybe stop when we can't borrow anymore.... When will enough be enough????

10CC
Bountiful, UT

I was amazed that Matheson was able to survive so many Republican attempts to boot him from office. That Matheson was elected in so many different geographic districts would suggest a moderate vein in Utah's electorate, but that's all lost on the Republicans, who pressed ahead and carved up the state in a "pie" gerrymandering model, anyway.

Nevada did pretty much the opposite, with the dominant Democrats there leaving a rural district for conservatives in Nevada, "because they need their voices heard, too". What a concept.

Utah Democrats should consider doing what some rural Republicans have done in Colorado, and that's to ask for a new state to be formed to better represent the views of the people there. Colorado is much closer to be a "purple" state, but Utah Democrats know quite well that their views aren't highly regarded, so why not lobby for a separation? This marriage doesn't work, at all.

Salt Lake County and Summit County together would make a nice, cohesive area. Democrats would keep the name "Utah", and the rest of the state could get the name Brigham Young wanted all along, "Deseret".

Reason??
Farr West, UT

Is $17,000,000,000,000 in debt not enough?? Our 4 Reps (including Matheson)and Hatch all voted to raise it to $25,000,000,000,000 (sorry if I missed some zeros). I am hard pressed to understand how Matheson will be missed! Our career politicians are selling us down the river. When will the public wake up?? Continuing to spend money we don't have only ends badly...

Commodore
West Jordan, UT

His resignation will give the election to Mia Love. If true, that is an exceptionally frightening reality because I think her political views are pretty radical.

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