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Published: Monday, Dec. 16 2013 9:10 p.m. MST

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The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Hahahaha!

thanks, I needed a good laugh!

Mike Lee is just hanging low for the time being. He hasn't changed. He and his buddies, like Cruz, are just laying low and hope that voters will "forget" what they did a few months ago.

Voters won't.

Mike Lee and Ted Cruz shut down the government.
The American people have already shut down the Tea Party.
In 4 more years the Tea Party will be gone.

FT
salt lake city, UT

He better do it fast because all of my country club buddies want him to be a one term Senator.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

To deserve victory, conservatives have to do more than pick a fight. We have to win a debate. And to do that … [w]e need an agenda.” Second, he urged fellow Republicans to engage in a “Great Debate” and cease trying to purge more moderate Republicans from its ranks.

Succinctly,

Have an actual plan. Being the party of no is tired.
Open up the tent. Take a person that gives you 80% of what you want.

And I will quote Jindal. "Stop being the Stupid party"
Lose the over-the-top angry rhetoric and publicly bash the crazies and the birthers.

Be the kind of leaders your average American wants.

I have and I could vote R in the next presidential election. But not for a crazy.

joe5
South Jordan, UT

mcbillay: I'm not a big Lee fan but what I detest even more is willful blindness. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't read the article prior to your post. Your claim that his movement is just "words on paper" doesn't demonstrate open-mindedness on your part. The article pointed out these specific actions Mike Lee has already taken:
- Presented an anti-poverty agenda that transcends existing policies
- Offered broad reform strokes on several issues including:
- consolidating and trimming federal programs
- expanding K-12 education opportunities to underprivileged students
- expanding access to higher education
- reforming the fed's criminal justice and penal system
- Helped introduce the Leahy-Lee Patent reform bill (praised by Obama administration)
- Worked with Durbin (D) on sentencing reform legislation
- Worked with Feinstein (D) on indefinite detention legislation
- Worked with Schummer (D) on visa reform legislation

It sounds to me like he has been very busy on doing a lot more than just putting words on paper. What does he have to do to please you? Switch parties?

T. Party
Pleasant Grove, UT

@Maverick "In 4 more years the Tea Party will be gone."

You misapprehend what the tea party even is. Because of this, your predictions about its future will always be wrong -- just as your previous ones have been.

You've been told that we're extremists who hate government, when in fact we are everyday human beings who love our country, and want to leave it a better place for our children and grandchildren. We read the Constitution, and we recognize that it provides a structure for the preservation and advancement of freedom, and we want to live by it. We see government as good when it stays within its proper bounds. We value individual liberty and self-reliance. We believe in wise fiscal management. These are the ideas that drive our cause, and there are many, many people who adhere to them.

Take note that these ideas animate not only protest, but also positive action. Mike Lee is articulating this now, and you see his leadership and influence growing. You will see the tea party movement continue to grow.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mike Lee has not "changed" to improve the Tea-Party!

Seriously,
He has now only miraculously "changed" because he knows he has failed and is obviously doomed,
and will now say or do anything to get re-elected.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Second, he urged fellow Republicans to engage in a “Great Debate” and cease trying to purge more moderate Republicans from its ranks.

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Hmmmm,
Funny because isn't that HE did to Senator Bob Bennett?

Still sounds like a man desperate to stay in office.

BTW --
If he was never wrong in the first place,
If he was this so called "strong leader" and not willing to cave to political pressure, yahda-yahda...

WHY now the New and improved Mike Lee?
The more Moderate Mike Lee?
The more compromising Mike Lee?
The more RINO Mike Lee?

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

So now Mike Lee is in favor of a thing called "education." My stars.

Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

Hopefully he changes it into a memory.

I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

Mike Lee learned a lesson from Romney: for a sizable portion of the electorate who are simply Obama haters, it doesn't matter how much you flip or flop, they will vote for anything that is not Obama.

I'm just a bit surprised at how much of a propaganda piece this is by Jowers, whom I would expect to be less of a cheerleader and more of a scholar about it. Did Jowers accept another donation to the Institute from Mike Lee or his cronies?

EDM
Castle Valley, Utah

But I thought it was all about standing on principle? I guess this captain isn't willing to go down with the ship.

LDS Liberal is spot on, as usual.

joe5
South Jordan, UT

As I read these DesNews message boards, I am constantly reminded who the real haters are.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

So Mike Lee is now saying exactly what moderate Conservatives and Independents have been saying for 3+ years - but somehow, when he says it, it is new and amazing and earth shattering.

Repairing the Republican Party is also going to require some humility - taking credit for others words and thoughts will not help.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Trying desperately to spin the big failure. Remember the slogan "shut it down" ?

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

I wonder how flexible a thinker Lee can be. The crowing issue of our age is the decline of the capitalist dominated market. Can we save the market and dump the capitalists? That is what's necessary. I'm sure neither Lee or Jowers thinks in those terms. Whether they like it or not, this matter is going to be front and center. I hope Lee can contribute.

Rawhide Kid
Sevier County, UT

Sen. Lee was just trying to save the country, but really its to far gone now. However there is still hope that Obama's failures will the catalyst for America to finally rise up and save our nation.

iron&clay
RIVERTON, UT

@ IMLDS 2
Since dictator-haters exist in your mind, then haters of our Constitutional Republic exist as well and should be exposed as those who are willing to give up our representative government with it's guarantee of individual rights to a dictator.

Mike Lee represents the people of Utah well.

That is why he was elected and why he will be re-elected.

JDL
Magna, UT

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."-- Patrick Henry, speech of June 5 1788

I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which grant[s] a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.-- James Madison, 1794

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."-- John F. Kennedy

The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.
-- Alexis de Tocqueville

If a thousand men were not to pay their tax-bills this year, that would ... [be] the definition of a peaceable revolution, if any such is possible.-- Henry David Thoreau

The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant.-- John Stuart Mill, "On Liberty", 1859

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

I love Mike Lee as a leader in the Senate. Mike is exactly the right kind of leadership we need.

one old man
Ogden, UT

I had always thought of Kirk Jowers as a reasonably reliable source of information. Now I'm not so sure.

But what I am sure of is that Mike Lee will say and do anything his handlers tell him he needs to do in order to fool enough people into voting for him again.

That is downright frightening.

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