Of course we all know Jesus was white. Just look at the old family photographs.
Seriously, the problem is a tendency by people of all races and
ethnicities to try and recreate God in their own image. It's not done
consciously or with evil intent, but, rather, because it's easier to
identify with a Deity who is as much like us as possible. The downside, of
course is not only that it becomes racist and treats others as outsiders, but,
even more importantly, that seeing God as being "just like us" reduces
the need for us to change to become more like God.
Actually, the general practice has been for people to depict Jesus in ways that
identifies him with the intended hearers. In 16th-century New France Catholic
missionaries composed a song about the wisemen bringing Beaver pelts for
example.On the issue of Saint Nicholas, aka Santa Claus, he was an
ethnic Greek from what is now Turkey.
According to the US census, people of Middle Eastern ancestry are white, so by
US census definitions Jesus was white. Until the US census gives up and stops
defining people from Iraq, Yemen and Egypt as white, I see no reason to say
other for Jesus.
If you are LDS -- He looks just like his Father -- per LDS
doctrine.BTW - that darker skinned, Socialist, giving away free
Healthcare, and feeding the masses, was Jesus - NOT Obama.
Seems to me that this is important because for at least a thousand years white
people have considered white better and brown inferior. We, as the dominant
race, have communicated our perception very effectively to others. I've
always been a little put off by Friberg's nordic appearing Nephi simply
because it is inaccurate(and I know he was depicting inner qualities). A black
child's Santa is really black, and an Indian child's Santa is really
brown. Until we can all stop looking at others through our own colored and
cultural lenses there will never be peace on earth.
A Scientist,I can be the physical father to a child whose mother I
will never know (biblically or otherwise).
RE: A Scientist, The “Pale” of Christianity believes the birth of
Jesus was a unique miracle by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:34,“l
know not a man”! Did Mary tell a lie? Mary knew the reality of her own
virginity. She declared that her pregnancy was the result of the miraculous
overshadowing of the Holy Spirit, not from a man (even if that man is the
immortal God in a human body/Mormonism). The Holy Ghost shall come
upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee..(Luke 1:35). This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about, His mother Mary
was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was
found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. (Mt 1:18 NIV,ASV)RE:
Semi-Strong, “Our Father which art in Heaven with, The supreme being
transcends space and time. The first goes to pieces if you begin to apply the
literal meaning to it. How can a sexual animal really be our father? How can it
be in the sky? The second falls into no such traps. C.S. Lewis.Is
God unjust? See Romans 9:14-22
If I recall correctly Santa Clause's origins were Saint Nicholas. I
believe he was Czechoslovakian. As such, he could have been white or other skin
shade. Almost certainly not Black or oriental.
Description of Jesus, from D & C 110:2-4:"We saw the Lord
standing upon the breastwork of the pulpit, before us; and under his feet was a
paved work of pure gold, in color like amber. His eyes were as a flame of fire;
the hair of his head was white like the pure snow; his countenance shone above
the brightness of the sun; and his voice was as the sound of the rushing of
great waters, even the voice of Jehovah, saying:I am the first and
the last; I am he who liveth, I am he who was slain; I am your advocate with the
Father."It is far more important what He did and continues to do
for us thatn what He may have looked like.Santa Clause has become a
symbol of selfish materialism, so you can keep him....
As for Jesus' appearance, scripture informs that he was:"in
the express image of his person" (Hebrews 1:3) "his" being
God's.Since "God created man in his own image"
(Genesis 1: 27) and that included "male and female" no wonder we
all look pretty much alike.As the Apostle Peter said:"Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: but in
everynation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted
ofhim." (Acts 10:34)I am heartily sick of hearing the
racism, sexism (female as well as male),wealth-ism and general class
consciousness, tribalism and partisanship, and perceived superiority of
people, including in this part of the world. It is so much easier
to see yourself as innately superior from birth than to do anything to
prove your worth, hence racism and the division of mankindinto classes is
ever popular.As Jesus himself said:"And think not to
say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you,
that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."(Matthew 3:9)
@ Cats: Jesus died in AD 33, Josephus was born in AD 37 and did not write about
Jesus until 93-94 AD - Josephus never met Jesus and there is no reason to
believe he knew what Jesus looked like.
God our Heavenly Father is the father of all humans - therefore, he represents
all races. Jesus, being his Son, would also represent all races. By the very
definition of who He is, He would be Black, White, Asian, Indian. He would
appear to His followers in a form they would recognize and accept.Trying to pigeonhole Him and claim He only matches you shows arrogance and a
lack of understanding of who He is.
A little story from a kindergarten teacher:A 5 yr. old boy was
drawing a picture and she - the teacher asked - what are you drawing?He replied "A picture of God".The teacher replied "But
nobody knows what he looks like."The boy replied "They will
in a few minutes!"That is good enough for me. I am more
interested in God's perfect characteristics. Especially the gift of mercy
because I need it.
I will know Him when I see him, for I've known Him once before.Merry Christmas to all.
Jesus was a guy that taught The spirit of things, [you know] you matter to me
and I matter to you. It isn't about me and it's not about you.
It's about we, It's His idea. He gets the credit for it. Thous the
name Jesus. who cares what He looked like the Idea that the spirit of things is
If God is the physical, literal father of Jesus' mortal body, as many LDS
believe, then he not only had to have his own physical body that had some kind
of racial or ethnic appearance, but he also had to have had intimate relations
with Mary.Do Mormons truly believe this? Do Mormons truly understand
the theological implications of this idea?
Sharrona,You know I disagree on predestination. It dumps both our
triumphs AND failures at God's feet and makes him a rather monstrous and
irrational being. Not God at all.Christ taught us to address his
Father as our Father and he consistently spoke of him that way. Again, his
intent was clear (and Christ was the greatest hence clearest of teachers). Was
Jesus and Santa are both white.
Based on Mormon Doctrine Jesus father was God and nobody knows what he looks
like.I don't believe this, I believe Jesus was a child of Mary and
Joseph and just another Hebrew. Nothing special. But that's just me. I
can't come to any kind of rational thought that allows God to be the father
of Jesus. I doesn't make any sense to me.
Just another case where people throw out logic and reason to fit religious
The Jewish historian Josephus described the physical appearance of Christ. It
has been a long time since I read it but, as I recall, it was quite similar to
the way he is depicted in paintings. He is described as being very handsome.
RE: Semi-Strong, ABBA Father,The misguided but popular concept that all people
are children of God and can truthfully call Him “Abba Father” is
simply not true. Just as children do not choose to be adopted or choose who will
adopt them, neither do Christians choose to become children of God. Instead, God
chooses them. He predestines them “to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to
Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will” (Eph 1:5), having
been chosen by God from “before the foundation of the world” (Eph
1:4).RE: Alfred, There's no description. In Rev 1:14-16, The
symbols portraying God, the Father, in the O. T. are now being applied to God,
the Son, in the N.T. .John's description of Jesus' eyes being like
flames is very similar to Daniel's description of an angel: "I lifted
my eyes and looked, and behold, a certain man clothed in linen, whose waist was
girded with gold of Uphaz! His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance
of lightning, his eyes like torches of fire, his arms and feet like burnished
bronze in color…" (Daniel 10:5-6).
@sharrona:"God the Father is a title given to God in Christianity and
Judaism in part because he is viewed as having an active interest in human
affairs, in the way that a father would take an interest in his children
..."If He has an active interest in human affairs, as you say,
where is He? Why has He not shown Himself to his children, huh?"Jesus did't leave any doubt about this truth. God(The Father)=
spirit!"Of course He is spirit... everyone has a spirit. But,
does He have a body? Christ had a body... He showed it to His disciples after
resurrection. And He, Christ, was the Son of God. Right?@Lane
Myer: "My question is - why is Joseph Smith becoming lighter and blonder
every few years?"It's called old age... almost everyone
grays with age.@nej2323: "...but are you telling me you think
that God the almighty is actually a human...??"No. We're
telling you He is God.@Serenity: "Perhaps the reason that there
is no physical description of Jesus to be found is that his looks never
mattered."There's no description because there were not
cameras back in the day.
While it doesn't matter what Jesus looked like as a mortal, we definitely
care about what He looks like now. Everyone will one day be resurrected with
varying degrees of glory. There are several detailed descriptions of Him (most
notably D&C 110), and it is encouraging to know a little about our potential
state through the eternities.
@sid 6.7:"Just so we can solve the debate does any one know what God
looks like?"We don't... because he rarely if ever shows up.
And that's too bad. What kind of a father would go off, never show up,
and leave his children to fend for themselves?
Jesus and Santa Clause for the present discussion were like a newspaper, black
and white, and read all over. Come on folks we have enough problems we need to
solve together and shouldn't be distracted by the color of ones skin, the
belief or non belief of our neighbor, or the place one was born. Let's
@maclouie:"It's a coin toss who Jesus looks like. "He likely looks like his Dad, God.
Sharrona,I understand the concept of father as title, but Christ did
not use it that way. He even calls him Abba. He refers to him as Father
throughout the gospels. His intent is clear. And he would have clarified it
had it needed clarification.
Palestinians today probably don't look like what Palestinians did 2000
years ago, there has been a lot of ebb and flow in conquering nations that would
have added differences in the local gene pool. The Romans were there for a few
hundred years, the Arabs came up in the middle ages and then there were the
French and other crusaders and then it has been mostly Arab rule since then.
Perhaps the reason that there is no physical description of Jesus to be found is
that his looks never mattered. Except maybe in Isaiah somewhere it says that he
had no apparent beauty that man should desire him, in other words, he was of
average looks, no one knows what the Savior looked like when He was on earth.
What we should care about is what He taught. He gave us a whole new perspective
on life. He said "Love your enemies, do good to them that hate you".
He said "Father, not as I will but as you will" even unto His death.
The New Testament shows Him as God incarnate, even the Son of God who brought
the good news that death is not final and that we may have eternal joy if we but
follow Him. He - God's only Son - gave us hope, taught us to love one
another as He has loved us. He gave us the surety of the resurrection and life
in the world to come. What He looked like makes no difference, but what our
salvation depends on what He said.
LD We say father because it was a way to explain the birth of Jesus
- mother - father and of course the bible is written by men so the strong figure
would have to be male.- but again god has never been seen we as humans may
interpret god as we want to see god -but are you telling me you think that God
the almighty is actually a human that waved a wand and created the universe??
Again that is what we believe as an explanation for creation but you can not
take the bible literally - but since we placed Jesus's birthday the same
day as Winter Solstice - the SUN GOD maybe we are all incorrect and Jesus is a
just like all of us the Children the Earth. So again talking about the race -
gender of God is comical - God is a mythical figure to explain the creation of
the universe. And yes if a child was born to the mythical figure that created
all of everything then yes that person would be the son - but saying that actual
person looks like God is well ridiculous.
I don't know what Jesus looked like. Neither does the fox commentator; you
get the impression she just wants him to be a white guy. But she's cherry
picking, and that's no surprise. The bible apparently makes no reference to
what he looked like, so one could assume his looks were unremarkable.
Unremarkable, inasmuch as he lived among and was a first century jewish
palestinian. That being the case, I suspect he bore little resemblance to the
guy we see in pictures, who comes across as nordic or almost celtic in
Recognizing that Jesus was dark-skinned based on his heritage, on where he was
born, etc. has no bearing on his message. It is of note that Christians
everywhere, including in the US, relate to someone of our own
race/ethnicity/skin color more readily and tend to "see" Christ as
white, as Anglo-Saxon, rather than recognizing he was born 2,000 years ago in
Palestine, and would have the same physical features of other Palestinian people
of that time. It is simply too bad that so many of us have a problem seeing
beyond skin color, even when "seeing" Jesus Christ. It does make one
wonder about the scripture of a promise, if certain people repent, they can
become a "white and delightsome" people. Jesus may not have been white,
but he certainly was "delightsome".
I have seen many pictures of Jesus. None and I repeat none show him to be other
@sid 6.7If we are created in God's image, then I would have to
suppose that the reverse is also true. So, the now question is: What
is your image?Now you know what God, and His Son Jesus Christ, look
I don't care what color Jesus is. He is my Savior and atoned for all our
sins. Having said that, I'm pretty sure he doesn't look
like the well-coiffed California surf dudes in so many modern paintings of him
(including those by many modern LDS artists). In my estimation, paintings of the
Savior by Carl Bloch depict His appearance much more faithfully than so many of
the modern artists. He probably looked like a common Hebrew from Palestine, and
was probably not Madison Avenue handsome/pretty. At least that's what
Isaiah 53:2 seems to say, "...he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we
shall see him , there is no beauty that we should desire him."
My question is - why is Joseph Smith becoming lighter and blonder every few
years? If you saw a picture of him or description of him, he had dark hair -
not this blond halo that is now on display.
RE: LDSareChristians, God does have gender,or he wouldn't be called
Father?God the Father is a title given to God ins Christianity and
Judaism in part because he is viewed as having an active interest in human
affairs, in the way that a father would take an interest in his children who are
dependent on him. In Trinitarian Christianity, God the Father is regarded as the
first person of the Holy Trinity, followed by Jesus Christ and the Holy
Spirit.In Judaism, God is described as "Father" as he is
said to be the creator, life-giver, law-giver, and protector.] However, in
Judaism the use of the Father title is generally a metaphor and is one of many
titles by which Jews speak of and to God.](John 4:24).God [is]
spirit. ( *pneuma ο theos). There is ‘*no article’ in the Greek
text before the word spirit, and that emphasizes the quality or essence of the
word. Furthermore, the word spirit occurs first in the sentence for emphasis.
The literal idea would be something like, “Absolutely spirit in His
essence is God.” Jesus did not leave any doubt about this truth. God(The
Just so we can solve the debate does any one know what God looks like?
Uncle Rico,The verse in Hebrews about Christ being in the express
image of his Heavenly Father comes to mind.It also brings to mind,
the modern expression: "Spitting image of his father".So, I
am guessing that Jesus Christ looks very much like his Father.
@ area 52The person arguing here seems to be you. So your a Utahn
who served a mission in Florida and saw pictures of Jesus with dreds? No
surprise there. If you were a minority you would know that church members in
Utah love to depict Nephites and Jesus as white, along with an often cavalier
attitude about race.
nej2323,Jesus mother, Mary, would look a lot like whatever a Jew
would have looked like 2000 years ago. Not today's Palestine Jew. His
Father, God the Father, could be Norwegian for all we know.God does
have gender, or he wouldn't be called Father. And he has been seen, by
both Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon. If there had been a drastically different
appearance than what they were both expecting, surly they would have comment on
it. Likewise the dozen or so early LDS leadership who saw Jesus
First of all Jesus the historical person was a Palestinian Jew so he would look
like a middle eastern Jew - so brown skin dark hair - not the white - blonde -
blue eyed person we regularly see depicting Jesus currently. As for his mother
and father - Mary again was a dark haired - brown skinned person. As for the
father that is up in the air - if you believe Jesus is the son of god then since
god has never been seen is not human and is for the most part a mythical being -
God would not have a race or even a gender. Jesus would look like his mother - a
dark skinned, dark haired middle eastern Jew - someone who now a days would have
a hard time getting on a plane in the US... kind of funny wouldn't you say
the person we worship is much different then the actual historical person.
From the 2010 Census:"White: People having origins in any of the
original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa."Did Jesus have an origin among the original peoples of the Middle East? If
yes -- there's your answer.
According to official United States Government standards, Jesus -- as a person
with origins in the Near East -- was "white."All good
liberals who don't want to be accused of being anti-government nutjobs must
fall in line and accept the Government's binding determination that Ms.
Kelly was 100% correct.Only racists and leftists are obsessed with
race. To us normal people, race is silly. Culture matters, but race, by
itself, means absolutely nothing.
Typical Fox News excuse "Just kidding". After getting caught saying
something even to ridiculous even for Fox News Megyn Kelly falls back on the
"I was just trying to be humorous" defense.Anyone who's
watched this video and saw the response of all the other talking heads knows
that Megyn was playing to the extreme right that believes everything Fox News
spews.As if the of course Santa is white comment wasn't bad
enough Megyn had to add that Jesus was white as well. There is no
humor in this at all and no defending these ridiculous comments either.
@ Tanner & Area 52: actually Mary, Jesus' mother was pregnant with
Jesus before the angel Gabreil appeared to Joseph, his earthly father. Patriot is exactly right this is politically correctness stuff that liberals
love to talk about which is nonsense. Kids don't care what color Jesus is
-how are we ever going to move pass the issue of race if parents teach their
kids this garbage?
According to the Holy Bible, Jesus possesses "the brightness of his
[God's] glory, and the express image of his [God's] person."
(Hebrews 1:3) Based upon this description, the physical appearance of Jesus
resembled that of his father. Since God, the Father, loves all mankind, and
"is no respecter of persons" [meaning He doesn't put one person
above another), His appearance need not be an offense to anyone.
Although I think the Fox hosts comments were out of line I could really care
less what color Jesus is. Let's just say he is see through how about that?
Good, everybody happy now?Folks we have so many problems in this
world that see through Jesus wants us to take care of. In order for this big
ball of yarn to roll we need to come together Jews, Muslims, Mormons,
Christians, Buddhists, Atheists, all of us!This kind of stuff dose
nothing but divide.
"..there is no beauty that we should desire him."I really am
not concerned with what He looked like during His time on earth.
Jesus probably had Semitic origins based on what His mom would have been.But the most important thing is not what Jesus looked like, but what
Would we really love Him any less if He were another race than us? That should
give us pause when we think in terms of race. I think everyone who loves Him
would like to see Him in their familiar context, as expressed beautifully in the
Christmas song:The children in each different placeWill see
the baby Jesus' faceLike theirs, but bright with heavenly grace,And filled with holy light.
It may not be accurate to say that the resurrected Christ is currently white,
because the color white reflects all light wavelengths. In His case, He emits
light of all wavelengths, and therefore doesn't reflect light of any
Who cares what his color/race/national origin or any other type of
categorization Jesus was. @Tennor is totally correct Jesus looked like his
father. I served my mission in south Florida and most pictures of Jesus I saw,
he was black with dreadlocks. People should really stop arguing about his color
and worry more about following his teachings.
@ Tennor... and what sir did Jesus's father look like? How do
we know he took on his father's look? We don't.Those who write
about history often do so in their own likeness.
Half my kids look like me, half look like their Mom (still my wife BTW).
It's a coin toss who Jesus looks like. I don't know what a
Palestinian Jew looked like 2000 years ago and I dont think anyone else knows.
Just another bad assumption to make one's point. Not sure how I
would feel if I heard Jesus speak some other language, though.
Jesus was a Jew and his linage is clearly shown in the New Testament. Jesus as
NOT black ...Jesus was NOT Asian...etc...Just accept the New Testament linage of
Jesus and forget all the hoo-haw nonsense about a black Jesus or other
manufactured history. In today's silly world of political correctness we
have to try to CHANGE real history to something that fits our politically
correct history which amounts to a lie. Santa is a fairy tale...who cares what
color he is. The fairy tale originated as a white Santa so let's just leave
it at that. Kelly is absolutely correct about the race hustlers on the political
left always looking for a way to stir up race hate even when there is none. Race
hustlers make their money from race hate and in my opinion the race hustlers on
the left are no different than the KKK and others who use race to generate hate.
Jesus's mother was from Galilee. But his Dad wasn't from anywhere near
there. I'm guessing he might have looked a bit more like his Father than