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Brad Rock: Utah, BYU coaches keep it in perspective

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  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 16, 2013 12:27 p.m.

    BlueHusky

    It looks to me that recruits trying to decide between Utah and byu, WCC and Pac-12, etc. now have another factor to add to their criteria. The need to ask themselves...

    Do I want to learn to run really, really fast so that the designated shooter on my team can throw up a shot, or...do I want to learn to play basketball with a team.

    The more criteria, the easier the decision.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 16, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    Blue Husky, and I'll take a Utah team that slashes and scores on 18+ assists/game and actually plays defense over a team that lets the other team score as quickly as they can so they can try to run coast to coast and rack up points. Glad we can both be happy with our teams.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Dec. 16, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    "For [the coaches], the big thing was that they were able to live another day."

    Really?

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Dec. 16, 2013 10:27 a.m.

    I would have liked to see the game but it was nowhere to be found in LA. Nada.

    Congrats to the Utes.

    Oregon will be the next test for BYU and if this team is going to be something special, we'll find out then. For now, I see a young, exciting team with some glaring weaknesses. They a little small and lost a couple of close ones to bigger teams.

    They're not a good free throw team.

    They are slashers and can really score. Very fun to watch. I'll take that over a plodding defensive team trying to hold the score down. But they're too small and will struggle at times.

    This is one game. Too bad they don't play a series every year.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 16, 2013 10:13 a.m.

    And Rock keeps his Majerus reference streak alive. Nice work Brad.

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 16, 2013 9:04 a.m.

    Kudos to Mika. At least one Cougar cared.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Dec. 16, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    When losing is very very difficult to handle, we talk about things needing to be put in perspective. This holds us for a week or two and then we begin noting that, all evidence to the contrary (ie---the scoreboard) we are not all that bad of a team. Then we play the weaker teams on our schedule and the mocking of the Utes cupcake schedule seems long forgotten, but we now are convincing ourselves that we are actually the better team. Coog Fanology 101.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 9:43 p.m.

    RE: Mika "pulled Bachynski down to the floor by his left arm. It wasn't the most forceful takedown, but still an intentional and unnecessary play out of frustration."

    I understand that in grabbing the arm, Mika grazed Bachynski's face, and that's what made it the flagrant 2. People confuse "flagrant" to be mean-spirited or malicious, when its really a player safety issue. Had Mika just grabbed the arms, it would have been a flagrant 1.
    Same thing with Princeton Onwas against Boise. In moving the ball from one side to another, he grazed the chin of the Boise State player. It wasn't malicious or even intentional, but because it was a hit to the head, flagrant 2.

  • Cougarbaseball Rifle, CO
    Dec. 15, 2013 9:18 p.m.

    @DRay
    If you knew anything about Coach Wooden, then you would know that he always kept basketball in perspective to life just like both of the coaches at these two fine universities do. Wooden never focused on winning. His focus was on getting his teams simply to give their best every day. The results (scores) mattered little to him. The effort mattered a lot. It's too bad too many people now think it always has to be about winning. It's ridiculous how many people call for a coaches job because of a few losses. If Wooden coached today he probably wouldn't be able to do what he did because of the we must win all the time mentality. It can be seen everywhere. Just ask Mack Brown. Or read idiot comments on these boards about people who want Mendenhalll and Whittingham fired.

  • mountainflying Logan, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 8:38 p.m.

    ThomasJefferson - BYU is little brother to most teams except the silly ones.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 8:19 p.m.

    ThomasJefferson,

    Did you show them your team's conference affiliation? The would of been rolling on the floor.

    Go Utes. Go PAC 12. Go UW.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 6:10 p.m.

    DEW, as a brief synopsis, he got sucked in to double-team a driving Delon Wright, who dished back to Bachynski coming down the lane. Mika turned late to pick him up, went up after Bachynski got the shot up with his right hand, and pulled Bachynski down to the floor by his left arm. It wasn't the most forceful takedown, but still an intentional and unnecessary play out of frustration. By definition, the call was correct.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 6:04 p.m.

    DEW Cougars

    "I like to see a clip of why Eric Mika got ejected. I don't have cable and pac won't allow byutv to rebroadcast or am I mistaken?"

    byu has no rights to Pac-12 Network broadcasts.

    Mica's actions were a clear violation. The announcers on the Pac-12 Network broke down exactly what he did and explained the rule. Before making a final determination, the refs huddled together and watched the replay. They discussed what they saw and made the call. The refs went through the same process a week or so ago with an incident involving Princeton Onwas. Apparently, such a foul requires review before the call is made.

    I agree with a previous post regarding Mika's conduct while the refs were reviewing the play. Mica demonstrated incredible immaturity yapping at some fans. His actions, at the very least, should have drawn the ire of Rose but...nothing.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 5:14 p.m.

    I like to see a clip of why Eric Mika got ejected. I don't have cable and pac won't allow byutv to rebroadcast or am I mistaken?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 4:23 p.m.

    Majerus, like every other coach in the world, was paid to WIN. If Rose didn't care about wins he would have lost his job a long time ago.
    Majerus was a truly great coach. He did exactly what he was paid to do. He did it fair and square. He didn't just phone in his job, the way some writers do, when they have an ax to grind. Although that ax has got to be worn down to a nub by now.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 4:15 p.m.

    A decade since Majerus was the coach on The Hill and Rock is still dragging his name through the mud. Really Rock, let it go.

  • Hailstorm is a coming Riverdale, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    "things got most heated when BYU’s Eric Mika was whistled for a flagrant foul and ejected."
    I was watching with disbelief as Mika kept jawing at the Utah fans after the foul. Part of The honor code states, " respect others. " Mika needs to have that reminded to him before he really hurts someone out of frustration and lack of respect for the opposing players. Maybe he's too immature at this point to realize what an embarrassment he was when under the gun of regular play.

  • UteMiguel Go Utes, CA
    Dec. 15, 2013 3:43 p.m.

    eastcoastcoug,
    You're the one taking the time to comment on this article and trying to diminish another Ute victory. It's obvious you care more about these games than you can admit.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 3:37 p.m.

    Coach wont let the guys get too excited.

    The team knows our non conference schedule is a bunch of easy teams. Any team in the Pac 12 is better than the team we played last night. If Utah is #9 in the Pac 12 as projected and byu #2 in the WCC, just shows the gap between those conferences is grand canyon like

    The Pac 12 Utes, the best team in the state, and its not even close

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Dec. 15, 2013 3:23 p.m.

    I think it means Coach K has certainly done a great job in rebuilding the Utes, just like Coach Rose has done for BYU. I think that's something to celebrate and something that can translate into real life.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 1:04 p.m.

    Majerus again?

    Mojo was a brilliant basketball coach... and like all of us he had his failings.

    One of those fails that the local sports media can't seem to get over is that he often disregarded them.

    Can we finally let Majerus rest in peace without the routine posthumous jabs by the local media?

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    Here we go with the "other things are more important" and "it means more to Utah" after another byu loss. lol.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    I always liked coach Rose, but he was no match for Coach K this year!

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    "What you are as a person is far more important than what you are as a basketball player." - John Wooden

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 8:46 a.m.

    "Material possessions, winning scores, and great reputations are meaningless in the eyes of the Lord, because He knows what we really are and that is all that matters." - John Wooden

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Dec. 15, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    DRAY,
    I think you are the one that has missed what sports are supposed to be about and how not to get so wrapped up and make them more important then the truly important things in life!!! Coach K took over a program that was in the dumps and is bringing it back to life and Coach Rose has had to deal with cancer!!! To me both coaches care and are doing a great job building great programs and molding boys into great men!!! I think John Wooden would approve of the success that both men are achieving in the parts that matter most!!!

    GO BYU RISE UP!!!

  • I'll call it Ogden, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 8:26 a.m.

    credit: “The Essential Wooden”

    Expectations of all Team Members:

    Always be a gentleman.
    Always be a team player.
    Always be on time whenever time is involved.
    Always be learning.
    Always be enthusiastic, dependable, and cooperative.
    Always be earning the right to be proud and confident.
    Always keep emotions under control without losing fight or aggressiveness.
    Be spirited, not temperamental.
    Always work to improve, knowing you can never improve enough.

    Important Team Tips:

    Never stoop to playing dirty - play hard and don’t complain.
    Unselfish team play and team spirit are two of the foremost essentials for our success.
    Be sure you acknowledge and give credit to a teammate who hits you with a scoring pass or for any fine play he may make.
    Without faith and courage, you are lost.
    Be thinking at all times.
    Never be a spectator, be in the game at all times.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 8:25 a.m.

    DRay,

    They care. It's just another attempt by Rock to minimize a Utah win. Typical.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 7:54 a.m.

    DRay, I suspect John Wooden has a bit more perspective now and would concur with this article.

  • Louisiana Cougar Pineville, LA
    Dec. 15, 2013 6:31 a.m.

    Horse feathers!

    This game was huge for both teams.

    First, it validated Coach K's efforts to resurrect the Utes -- and affirmed to the team their potential and their future.

    Second, it was a slap in the face and kick in the gut to BYU (and many of its fans) that it can't win games without playing with urgency, effort, and precision. BYU got run out of the gym before the first media timeout. They were, plainly, awful. They were unprepared, outcoached, outhustled, and outplayed at every turn.

    The coaches know that this game was HUGE for both teams. BYU needs to begin playing with more discipline. Utah needs to continue this terrific level of performance and has discovered that it can play very, very good ball against a solid competitor.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 15, 2013 6:17 a.m.

    @DRay,

    My guess is that where Coach Wooden is now, he probably has the same perspective as Rock talked about here. Probably wishes he had poured some of that same passion into other things that mattered more.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 15, 2013 6:14 a.m.

    Congratulations to Utah for a clean sweep in Football and Basketball (even the women did it). It clearly means so much more to the Utah fans (and players) to beat BYU. After more than 45 years of watching the rivalry, I'm still not sure where that comes from. So many Utah fans talk about moving on. When the fascination with and hatred of all things BYU goes away, I'll believe it.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 1:25 a.m.

    Good article, Rock. I have to say though that Rose was, in fact, distressed throughout the game. His angst began 2 min and 30 sec into the game and never let up. In fact, he had one timeout left with 9 minutes to go. Other than that, yeah...one cool dude.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 15, 2013 12:25 a.m.

    I really like coach K, the UTES are trending upward! BYU can't shoot free throws and they are soft inside. The game wasn't even that close, Utah jumped on them and cruised!

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Dec. 15, 2013 12:06 a.m.

    Coaching basketball is what these two men do as a career, and they get paid handsomely to do it, I hope it means something more than a shrug to them, whether their teams play well or not. If its just a shrug and an oh well, kind of thing, they ought to find another job, one that really doesn't matter at all, so we can have two who seek excellence in what they do, and teach that to their team...John Wooden must be turning over in his grave to see such don't give a care keep it all in perspective kind of attitudes as portrayed in this article.