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Published: Saturday, Dec. 14 2013 12:10 p.m. MST

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maclouie
Falconer, NY

TimBehrend

I used to believe in the "blip" effect. It's been more than a year since the age was lowered. How long do you think until the "blip" effect goes away? I dont think it will but interested in what your crystal ball says.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

"God is hastening his work.... He's speeding it up. We have a sense that there's an urgency about spreading the message of the gospel across the world."
______________________________

If only we could see the day when all the one true religions of the world devoted the energy they now exert talking down to their fellow man to listening to others to better understand.

Stenar
Salt Lake City, UT

Don't get too excited. The number of missionaries will drop back to 50,000 in a year. There's only double now because people who waited until 19 or 21 went, plus new ones who didn't have to wait.

A Scientist
Provo, UT

Lilalips

The "wall" of disingenuousness is built by a Church full of people who will not befriend a person unless they are assigned, or as a pretext for "selling" their religion.

And I am ethically opposed to "volunteers" competing with people who need to earn a living helping people move.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@maclouie
"It's been more than a year since the age was lowered. How long do you think until the "blip" effect goes away?"

At minimum 18 months for women and 24 months for men since that's how long the "blip" people are on a mission. Since they didn't start their missions day 1 when the announcement was made lowering the ages I'd be inclined to say that from 18 to 30 months for women and 24-36 months for men post-announcement is when the levels should settle down to whatever they will be going forward. That way you have filtered out anyone who started a mission the first 12 months after the age change announcement.

I would suspect that the levels at that point would be somewhat higher than they were before the age change, just not as high as they are now. I am not going to hazard any more specific a guess than that.

Casey See
FLOWER MOUND, TX

Lowering the age for young men, drives up the total percentage of young men who go as well. The reality is that between graduating from high school and waiting until 19, an unfortunate number of young men got sidetracted from their stated desire to serve. These distractions include: making money and feeling that they can't quit their job now because there won't be another opportunity like it; falling in love and not wanting the young lady to have a chance to find another while he is away; school; friends.

Lowering the age removes many of these temptations. Unfortunately, it also means that many will never experience saving for a mission because they didn't / couldn't work during high school and now mom and dad are paying for the mission. For some, they will never realize the blessing that came from paying their own way.

This is the only issue I have with the age change. But the positives outweigh these negatives. Besides many never did earn money for their own mission.

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

@ A Scientist

Seems you are bothered by people trying to find a way to help. I think it's rather impossible to know others' motives or whether it's a pretext for something. Rather than being a cynic, just try it some time. It's not easy, and yes, sometimes you will come off as insincere, but if we all stayed in our own little sphere, this world would be worse off. That goes for volunteers of all kinds - religious and otherwise.

And is there really an "ethics" question in helping someone move? Most people I know who can afford moving help do pay for it, and those who can't, appreciate having some free help. Better than no help at all...

Just stick with the applied sciences and leave the social science to others.

Don37
Nottingham, MD

There was a time when I thought I would never need any help from the Church or it's members.
Then came an operation and orders to lift nothing heavier than 10 pounds. When I came home from church that Sunday, there was 4 inches of snow and still falling. I sort of wondered how it was going to get shoveled before the 24 hour period our city requires snow clear sidewalks by.
As the snow stopped near dark, I looked out to see one of the Elder's Quorum councilors hard at work clearing my walks.
Now 20 years later, I find the missionaries when grass or snow requires physical labor. In my younger days, I did this kind of thing for members and neighbors. Now that I am over 70, with too many physical problems I allow others to reap the benefits of service to others.

let's roll
LEHI, UT

@ A Scientist

I think I know you well enough to know your tongue was planted firmly in your cheek when you raised your "ethical" objection to folks helping other move. It made me smile.

That said, I will think twice before I open the door for anyone on my next trip to Walmart. Wouldn't want to supplant the need for them to hire a doorman. :-)

Regards.

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