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Published: Saturday, Dec. 14 2013 12:10 p.m. MST

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truth in all its forms
henderson, NV

with that many missionaries china should open in the next year or so. After china embraces the gospel north Korea, Cuba and other countries will embrace the gospel shortly as well.

Dixie Dan
Saint George, UT

If the full time missionaries are to active members, doesn't this overlap with the V.T. and H.T.?

FREDISDEAD
West Point, ny

Don't know about where you are at Dan. But I have NOT had a home teacher come regularly in 10+ years.

At least the Elders and Sisters actually VISIT people they have responsibility for.

A Scientist
Provo, UT

FREDISDEAD,

Lucky you.

I'm not even a member, but the HTs and VTs infiltrate our home and annoy us with their superficial niceness and trite "gospel message" on a regular basis. Although my wife is active LDS and attends the Temple, even she acknowledges how much of a waste of time it is.

desert
Potsdam, 00

Forgive me, how in the world are they doing it ?

Max
Charlotte, NC

This is intent versus outcome, Dixie Dan.

BrentBot
Salt Lake City, UT

My experience in Latin America is members think it is culturally unacceptable to visit members in their homes. However, when Latin Americans emigrate to the United States, home and visiting teaching suddenly becomes acceptable.

Lilalips
Attleboro, MA

A Scientist,

You are lucky. If you needed to move, they would do a fabulous job. We have moved several times around the country and the members are always there to help us. They even set up my kids beds one time. It was such a wonderful thing as I was a single mom and was so tired I could hardly see straight. You are lucky that the members come, even with what you see as a fake interest in your welfare. They are doing what they see as their duty to God, not necessarily to you but it COULD benefit you if you would put down the wall you have built up against them. How many communities would never even lift a finger to care whether you were there or not? They are not perfect. But neither are you. Instead of your wall, ask them about themselves. Try to get to know them. You may be surprised to find that you might have something in common and could even come to "like" the good people that they are trying to be.

Common-Tator
Saint Paul, MN

@Fred ... sorry to hear the WP Branch has deteriorated in that fashion. I was baptized one week before entering the academy, and it was there that I learned the necessity of 100% home teaching (and that not simply to visit, but rather to buoy-up those one is blessed to serve). I'm incredibly thankful for the home teachers I had throughout my time there, as well as for those I had the privilege to serve. C'mon President Sparrow -- work to be done?!

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

@a scientist,

I remember when our new house under construction blew down. The home teachers and others showed up and cleaned it up. We couldn't have possibly done it ourselves. I'm so grateful they "infiltrated" our home.

junkgeek
Agua Dulce, TX

I would never ask my ward members to do something I could do myself. Next time I move, I'm supporting the local economy by hiring someone.

silvercloud41NE
Fremont, NE

Unfortunately, Dixie Dan, when H.T. and/or V.T. slack off, the Lord will use the missionaries to fill in the gap. We should all remember how the Savior strengthened the weak and/or wayward saints (and sinners) as he showered His love on all. Wish we could all follow His example and do likewise, especially in these days of hastening the work, as it is often expressed. This gives one the chance to sit up and take notice... and hopefully act.

stampederus
Ephraim, UT

Fredisdead:

We all have a responsibility, as do the Home Teachers, to visit with and support our assigned families on a regular basis. Having said that, you also need to contact your Home Teacher and/or your ward leaders requesting that these visits take place. Sometimes individuals are struggling spiritually and do not feel worthy of their assignment, but need to be assured that you need them. Try it and I assure you it can work.

Steve C. Warren
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

I certainly favor having more people unite with the true church of Christ.

However, this word "hastening" really needs to be deep-sixed. It seems to suggest that until recently the Lord had been dilly-dallying. When Pres. Kimball talked of lengthening our stride, I think he really meant it. When Pres. McKay said every member a missionary, he wasn't joking.

Maybe instead of saying the Lord is hastening his work, we could say that the Lord's Church has taken steps to increase the level of full-time missionary service, which had declined rather significantly among 19-year-old males during the past decade.

TimBehrend
Auckland NZ, 00

No mention of the statistical blip that the number of missionaries currently represents because of the lowering of age of eligibility with immediate effect in October 2012. Once the wave of younger volunteers supplementing their older peers passes there will no longer be double ranks and numbers will settle down again. I wonder if when numbers settle back down in the 60K range if Steve Allen of the Missionary Department will be quoted as saying, "God is no longer hastening his work".

Hurricanes
South korea, 00

I am really exicted to hear that the lds missionaries prepared for serving mission, where ever in the world. Has incereased over the last one to two years.
My human mind thinks are these younger men and women ready for a church mission. What are their reasons for serving a mission!I hope and pray church headquarters and Mtc Provo put stragties and plans for these young men and women who serve missions for the church.
A recent article from the Dersert news,stated some returned missionaries , felt a sense of failure when coming of their Lds missions. Why, did the returned missionaries feel this way?
Reference to Missionaries doing member work and not so much baptism work. It makes sense to retain your membership in any church or business! This is another area Lds missionaries could be developing. Member development and church skills.
I keep praying for the Lds missionaries of the world, that the Lds church will guide these men and women in the Lords work.

Wacoan
Waco, TX

Brother Allen gave two explanations for declining convert baptisms per missionary: an increased focus on convert retention and increasing secularism. I believe there is at least a third reason, an aging world caused by declining birth rates. In the past, the typical convert was young. There are simply fewer young people.

Johnny Moser
Thayne, WY

The statistic I would love to hear is what percentage of perspective missionaries are now serving compared to the previous 20-30 years. Willing to be that even with the higher standards expected now compared to then, the percentage serving now is still higher than before.

Canyontreker
TAYLORSVILLE, UT

BrentBot "My experience in Latin America is members think it is culturally unacceptable to visit members in their homes."

Where is that? I have worked in Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Chile, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, and Bahamas. I have not had that cultural experience yet.

Cowboy Dude
SAINT GEORGE, UT

Some expect a statistical blip with the age change. However, Des News has already reported the higher number of sister missionaries due to the age change that would not have gone on a mission. I think the expected number was from 30% to 52% sister missionaries.

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