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Published: Friday, Dec. 13 2013 9:25 p.m. MST

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John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

This seems like an article lacking any depth. I think the writer really should have sought to get various voices on the matter, and been more clear in explaining both what the ruling means and what the reasoning behind the ruling was.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

If being illegal was the only think keeping the LDS Church from reinstituting polygamy, then it would have already done so in some countries. In Swaziland where the church has multiple wards the king has over 20 wives.

Elder Oaks in his talk in the last General Conference made in 100% clear that plural marriage was against the policy of the church even in places where it is legal, and that participating in it or advocating it is in all places grounds for excommunication.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

For the purposes of this ruling, with the level of legality that this ruling is dealing with, "same sex marriage" has been legal in all 50 states since 2003. In this case we are dealing with laws that make certain forms of polygamy a criminal offense that can lead to jail time.

That said, Waddoups has not overturned even all criminal laws. The state can still prosecute and send to jail for "bigamy" where it can be argued there was some form of fraud involved.

This ruling does not, despite what some who are not paying much attention claim, make it so that plural marriage has any legal recognition. This is on the level of the Lawrence v. Texas of plural marriage, not on the level of what Prop 8 dealt with. Waddoups has not said that either the Federal Government or the state of Utah has to recognize in law that any person can have more than one legal spouse at once. The day when Adullah Said may be able to get New York to recognize both his wives he brings with him from Saudi Arabia as legal wives might be close at hand, but it has not come.

Nephets
Troy, MI

Herman Frederick Ferdinant Thorup is my great great Grandfather who immigrated from Denmark to Utah on August 8th 1869 with the first Mormon Pioneer Train to Utah. He was sealed to three wives in the SLC Temple. Sophie, Anne Christine, and Jensine. Herman had 21 children, served 3 missions to Denmark. He was sentenced to prison in the Sugarhouse prison twice and served a total of 9 months in prison for polygamy. His father, Herman August Thorup made the doors to the SLC Temple. Herman planted the trees in Liberty Park. He lived faithfully the law given in D&C 132. I will also live this law if it is made legal and endorsed by the living Prophet.

Nephets
Troy, MI

Worth repeating:
"For all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same." (Doctrine and Covenants 132:3)

In the last days (whenever that is) seven women will take hold of one man and say, "We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!" Isaiah 4:1
Amen

Nephets
Troy, MI

Worth repeating:
It has been my view for some time that the federal government, who once took polygamy by force from the Latter-day Saints, would one day be the ones to give it back. Here we see one giant step towards that eventuality.

It would be the ultimate irony if polygamy were to become legal, but its prohibition among the Latter-day Saints remain.

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