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Published: Sunday, Dec. 15 2013 9:00 p.m. MST

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AZKID
Mapleton, UT

By their fruits...

cjb
Bountiful, UT

It is quite possible to be devoted religiously and be spiritually sick as Jesus pointed out many times in the New Testament when referring to the religious leaders of the day the Pharisees.

If one is going to do a study and title it as being about spiritual health, why not set up some genuine criteria having to do with spiritual health and do the study about that?

Some ideas .. A positive outlook on life, especially in the face of adversity. Adherence to the golden rule. Honesty. Kindness. ... etc.

pmccombs
Orem, UT

Some churches have discovered how to serve mammon, and their people get high marks on the success=happiness scale, but forsake their churches. Other churches have learned to serve God, and they produce devoted people who don't score high on the success=happiness scale. The LDS church has cracked the riddle of how one can serve both God AND mammon!

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

Oh boy, this ought to bring out the anti LDS Church crowd. Positive things about the Church just don't sit well with some.

defender
TWIN FALLS, ID

@pmccombs
Happiness is subjective. Members of the LDS church as a group are very devoted; in fact according to a recent PEW poll they are among the very most devoted. They are far from "forsaking their church". If you want to point out individual examples of those who seem to serve mammon you can find them in all churches.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

The antis will find any angle they can to try and discredit the conclusions. After all, they don't want to admit they made a terrible mistake by leaving the church.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Re Cats

It wouldn't be surprising if in a properly done study LDS people came out on top.

This study however had little to do with spiritual health. You are looking beyond the mark.

Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

re CJB
This study had everything to do with happiness, you sir (CJB) are the one looking beyond the mark.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

This is the humility I love to see from religion.

defibman
Syracuse, UT

So Hutterite, when you find happiness, don't share it or let anyone else know where to find it. Just keep it to yourself and behind closed doors yell out, "Mine, all mine, and nobody else can have it !"

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Happiness was determined by whether members were married, had some college experience and earned more than $50,000 per year."

Since when do these things constitute "happiness"?

It would appear that Mr Newbold came up with definitions in an effort to achieve a desired conclusion.

gmlewis
Houston, TX

The article frankly admitted that there were inadequacies in the way the data was interpreted. Yes, he chose education, marriage, and income to measure "Happiness." Perhaps some of the readers will remember the "Misery Index" during the Carter administration, which combined "Unemployment and Inflation" economic factors.

Statistics are worthless without an attempt to interpret them, and this article proposes a meaningful attempt. It is certainly possible to critique this measurement of Happiness and Religious Devotion, without being anti-Mormon. I appreciate their comments, too.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Is anyone actually surprised by this result? I mean we know that the LDS ranks alongside evangelicals for stuff like "attending every week" etc. We know they were obviously going to score high in marriage. As for education and income, the demographic makeup of the church made that obvious too. After all, the poorest and least educated part of the nation is the south, an area the church has minimal presence but the other devout religion/denomination (evangelicals) dominates.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

re Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

This study presupposes that religious devotion has anything to do with spiritual health, which may or may not be true, but it is not proper for a study to presuppose this without first providing evidence. Otherwise this is an opinion piece and not a study.

Might I suggest you take some university classes such as statistics or one of the social sciences and you can learn what constitutes a proper study.

J-TX
Allen, TX

Alt134;

I live in the south, and the LDS Church makes up about 8% of our small town....

Of course, our town is better educated than most in the south....

I Am A Runner
South Jordan, UT

RE CJB
Bountiful, UT

Religious devotion does have something to do with spiritual health. Maybe not as much as much as the genuine criteria you mentioned, but the pharisees were very devoted to the Jewish religion. So devoted that they did not believe that Christ was the Christ, so they never joined Christianity. So they are not the same religion. Many of the pharisees were probably also honest, kind, adherent to the golden rule, etc...

By the way, Mormons would probably still be near the very top of the list that you suggested.

Weston Jurney
West Jordan, UT

More than half of all Mormons these days live in Africa, Polynesia, and especially, Latin America. I doubt than many of them have college educations or earn $50k. So, according to this study the majority of Mormons must be UNhappy.

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

Some people find this study to be very bad news! Others are not the least bit surprised! As Al Lee once said, "All people see the world, not as it actually is, but as actually THEY are". All this just proves him right.

kvnsmnsn
Springville, UT

Weston Jurney posted:

=More than half of all Mormons these days live in Africa, Polynesia, and
=especially, Latin America. I doubt than many of them have college educations or
=earn $50k. So, according to this study the majority of Mormons must be UNhappy.

You might be surprised at how many of them have college educations. With the Perpetual Education Fund that Gordon Hinckley initiated, large numbers of Latter-day Saints in Africa, Polynesia, and Latin America now have the opportunity to get college educations. Hinckley took aim at breaking the poverty cycle in third world nations, and I think he had some effect.

LDSareChristians
Anchorage, AK

cjb posted:Some ideas .. A positive outlook on life, especially in the face of adversity. Adherence to the golden rule. Honesty. Kindness. ... etc.

LDS would peg the meter on the above categories.

Weston Jurney posted:More than half of all Mormons these days live in Africa, Polynesia, and especially, Latin America. I doubt than many of them have college educations or earn $50k.So, according to this study the majority of Mormons must be UNhappy.

You are mixing apples and oranges. This study was conducted in the US. A study outside US would have different thresholds on the criteria.

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