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Published: Friday, Dec. 13 2013 6:55 p.m. MST

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BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

That is a great signing for BYU.
For those keeping stats are stars. In 2013 and 2014 BYU will have signed 4-4 star recruits and 5-3 star recruits. Best recruiting I can remember. Good luck Cougs.

SoCalTrueBlue2
San Diego, CA

The future gets even brighter for BYU basketball. The most difficult challenge facing coaches in coming years will be distributing playing time among the talented players.

Funny/witty screen name
Orem, UT

This is great news for coug fans and terrible news for utah fans. 7 in a row?? i wonder how it feels to loose that many games to your rival... I thought 4 was bad but 7 soon to be 8. That can't be possible because utah is a pac 12 team? they are obviously better than byu and any other team in the wcc... yet byu has a chance to beat more pac 12 teams this year than utah does!
Go Cougs

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

I don't know if the Cougs will be a regular in the round of 16 with the recruits that they are picking up, but they sure will have the talent to play with the Elites... The talent of the players together with probably one of the top 10 coaches in College Basketball it is hard to see how the Cougars will not be a factor in future NCAA Tourneys... If ever we are to break into the Final Four it would seem most likely to happen sometime within the next 5 years.

IA Cougar
West Des Moines, IA

Re: Funny...
Lets not give BYU fans a bad name by bashing. I would love to see BYU win every time they play Utah but a rivalry is much better when it goes back and forth a bit. Egging the Utah fans on isn't cool and gives us a bad name. I have LOTS of friends who are SUPER people and Utah fans. This is not life and death. It's a game. So let's chill a bit and keep it respectful!

That said, this is exciting to see BYU getting great recruits. The future is bright indeed. Now we need to cash in and start beating ranked opponents. We are 0-3 this year so far. Beating up on the easy teams is fun but not good if we don't learn and then start winning the big ones. I'm hopeful we are getting battle tough for the upcoming WCC games and hopefully the NCAAs.

Go BYU. And good luck to Utah too. I hope it's a great game with BYU winning!

Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

Welcome aboard.

Cinci Man
FT MITCHELL, KY

This is wonderful news. Can he shoot free throws? If he can, that's great news. If he cannot, we have enough of those guys already. We need what it takes to win the big ones. Go Cougars!

AZ Blue & Red
Gilbert, AZ

Glad to see some great players coming BUT players are only players if they can not play as a Team. BYU's challenge is not the players but playing as a team. If they can always play as a team then watch out. They have the horse power to do some great things.

Y Ask Y
Provo, UT

This is great news!

Dave Rice is an excellent coach, and UNLV's tradition attracts a lot of talent. Jamal just wasn't getting enough playing time (9.3 mpg), and everybody knew it was a waste for him to be picking up slivers.

Rice talks to Rose, and a win-win-win for both teams and Jamal is arranged.

Love to see this!

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

If playing time was the issue...

Where is a 6'6" guy going to find playing time?

The COUGARS are loaded with guys, at that size, sporting great resumes.

Vegas POV
Las Vegas, NV

To the honorable alumna and fans of Brigham Young University. I believe that I must disagree with your assessment of this transfer student. According to the statistics provided by this fine newspaper, the young man, outside of the Santa Barbara game, averaged 0.4 points per game in 9 minutes of playing time and ultimately his coach chose not to play him in 3 games. He would become a role player, should his work ethic be demonstrated positively. I fail to see how this player going to make a marked difference at BYU.

Additionally, according to sources in Las Vegas, it is suspicious that 48 hours after his seventh game in a 30 plus game season, a player would have all details worked out and assurances in place to transfer to another university? I hope and trust that my Alma Mater would prove itself above such suspicions of not condoning or allowing recruiting or transfer discussions with a player who is contractually committed to another school.

Is this sour grapes from Vegas POV? No. I just expect more from one of my Alma Maters than I do from the 18 year old player on UNLV's team. And for clarification, UNLV is not my other Alma Mater.

wYo8
Rock Springs, WY

WOW 7 in a row if the utes lose tomorrow it will be 5 years since Utah has won. How many seniors, juniors, sophomores, freshman, and how many ex players have never tasted victory against BYU. Is there any ex coaches?

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

I don't know much about Jamal, but his high school ranking indicates he should be very good. 6'6" is a little small to play PF, but Collinsworth is making an impact at the 4 and he's the same height.

I remember the years when get one or two 3 star athletes was a good year. Now, the majority of recruits are 3 or 4 stars. And some Utah fans said we would never get anyone when we went to the WCC. The quality of the program is more important than the quality of the conference.

For those worried about BYU unethically recruiting him from UNLV, you can be assured with Rose and Rice that nothing was underhanded. Rose has too much respect for Rice to even consider doing something like that.

Welcome aboard Jamal. I look forward to watching you play next year.

Hank Jr
Draper, UT

The Cougs are just getting better and better.

dnay
Salt Lake City, UT

For those of you that are concerned that this is not a good pick up, I think it is a good pick up, UNLV has a lot of front court players, so this kids didn't get a lot of playing time, the Cougars on the other hand is guard heavy, so a power forward is good, remember the biggest concern next season will be the front court players, so adding another strong body that can rebound and play defense and has pretty good offensive skills as well will help BYU. We could have used that body against Iowa ST. this year when Mika went out, we didn't have anyone strong enough down there when he went down, you can't tell me this kid couldn't have helped. I like it, because we need the front court players next year.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

Good idea. If he isn't getting playing time at a big time program, transfer.

I would do the same.

Back Talk
Federal Way, WA

WEll, it seems that transfers are really the way a lot of players are moving around these days. Every program seems to have a couple of them. I dont know if this is a good pick up or not. Lets just hope so. It doesnt sound good to pick up UNLV's backup players. It basically lets you know how BYU compares to UNLV these days.

As for the Utah game, I dont know why people think that BYU will easily win this game. Dont you remember last years game with far less talent? With BYU's shooting woes's I actually think Utah could easily win this game.

phantomblade
Salt Lake City, Utah

"Additionally, according to sources in Las Vegas, it is suspicious that 48 hours after his seventh game in a 30 plus game season, a player would have all details worked out and assurances in place to transfer to another university?"

You obviously don't have a clue about transfer rules, do you?

The ONLY NCAA rule for transferring is that the player, barring a waiver, must sit out a year before he can play. There's absolutely no rule that bars a player from discussing a potential transfer to another school during the season.

Jamal Aytes was already verbally committed to BYU, before changing his mind at the last minute to sign with UNLV. Aytes and BYU were already very familiar with each other, so all it would have taken for Jamal to transfer would have been a simple call to Coach Rose to see if Rose was still interested and if he still had a spot available for Jamal.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

@phantomblade - just like Carlino from ucla. Sit out the rest of the year and start at mid December. If I read it right, he can practice with the team now, right? Which will help in many ways.

Welcome aboard Jamal.

flatlander
Omaha, NE

Transferring is not that simple. Under NCAA rules a coach can refuse to release a player. Without the release the player cannot get a scholarship at the new school. Sometimes a coach will restrict a player from teams within their own conference. Happened at Wisconsin last year. That said this usually involves starters. If a coach doesn't think a kid will pan out he encourages him to transfer and even helps to open up a roster spot. This kid is no different that Heaps, highly recruited, things didn't pan out his way so he left. Still had a miserable career.

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