Just a word of caution to the hyper-confident Cougar faithful here.BYU barely squeaked out a win against a hapless Utah squad at home last year.
This year Utah is a much better team and they'll be at home with pac
12 refs.This is NOT a gimme for BYU. I think it will be a tight game with
BYU coming out on top but they certainly could lose this game.
Hum, Prairie View A & M. Hey all, isn't this the same institution that
Big "Z" Zelmo Beaty of the Utah Stars attended? Big fan of the big
"Z"( rest his soul )and the old ABA. I remember many nights at the old
Salt Palace when tickets were basically given away. It was a lot of fun watching
the beach ball on a three point shot go in the hoop. Sorry - this comment really
ages me and I apologize.
Let's all help out chris here on how to understand the RPI rankings.I
will type slowly...When a team play a tough schedule and combine it with wins
vs. loeses and a few other factors you get an RPI. It is simple math, computers
don't have favorites just spit out fact. BYU has played a tough schedule
so far and therefore has a high RPI. Duke, Ohio State, and Michigan State must
not have played as tough od schedule. Are you still with me here? Every team
in the WCC,WMC, and so forth have a higher SOS schedule because they play harder
teams. Still with me?Shall I go on?
CB,So if BYU has more point that Utah then I guess you would say that BYU
is the better team? Of will you change your mind and say that the team with the
better record is the better team?Please pick one and stick with it.The Utah game will not be even close to the toughest game for BYU so
far. With a SOS near the bottom of the ENTIRE college basketball world I think
not.10 of the pac schools are better than u, including Stanford and BYU
beat them is California.Nice try however,
I hope this guy isn't taking playing time from Bartley.
Using the same arguments that are applied to football on strength of schedule,
the Utes have one of the easiest schedules in D1 basketball. No team from a
basketball power conference (ACC, PAC, Big 10, Big 12) has a strength of
schedule as low as the Utes. Every team in the WAC besides Texas-Pan American
(who are they?) also has a higher strength of schedule than the U. Every team in
the Big Sky also outstrips them. Although, I must admit that the Utes beat
Loyola Marymount in SOS by .01 rating points, every other team in the WCC also
has a higher SOS. (Note that BYU more than doubles the Utes in SOS rating). Say what you might about playing in a power conference, but in terms of
SOS (which was the oh so holy mantra that the U fans (i.e. B) quoted in
football), not many teams are lower than the team on the hill.
@ Chris BSometimes you baffle me with your lack of knowledge. It's
makes me laugh knowing that you think this will be the toughest test the Cougars
will have faced so far outside of those three ranked teams. Allow Jeff Sagarin
to enlighten you: #60 Stanford (6-2) #63 Utah State (5-2)#73 Texas (8-1)#79 Utah (7-1)Utah has had some great wins
over Alta High, Bingham, and Olympus, but their ranking in the Sagarin will
start to drop significantly once U start playing some real teams.btw, BYU is ranked #31
The Joggers. What an amusing moniker. I think that BYU will be
tested some by the Utes, just because of the emotion and the aggression that the
Utes will take on. BYU struggles against heavy handed play. See Iowa State.
The troll count is very high today. Must be the inversion that brings pollution.
Didn't utah just get by ISU Last night. Talk about a Joke. Chris B why
don't you just keep amusing us with your Utah predictions and quit worring
about the Cougars and theeir 7 years of doninance over the Jogging Utes
basketball squad. You are much more entertaaining with your
prognostications...they are truly funny and 99% wrong!
Felis,And yet you used RPI as justification for saying texas, usu,
and Stanford are better than Utah.Is this another case where you
guys flip flip on how to best present the information to back your argument?
Flip. Flop. LOLYou guys had better beat a top 25 team
soon, after all, there is only one ranked team in your entire conference. So if
you want a top 25 win on your resume, you're quickly running out of
chances.Enjoy the WCC membership in basketball and waiting by the
phone for the Pac 12 or Big 12 to call. We wont.
Ah, Chris. I didn't say "byu is better than Arizona, Duke, Ohio State,
and Michigan State".I said Texas, USU, and Stanford are all
better than Utah. Not to mention Iowa State, Wichita State, and UMass. Only a
Ute homer would dispute that; Utah is BYU's break before finals and a tough
Oregon game (RPI #15).Incidentally, Stanford is picked to finish
higher in the PAC-12 than Utah. Since Chris Hill is too chicken to schedule USU
or Weber State we don't know how the Utes would do against them (probably
not very well, given recent history).But since, as you say, the
final score is all that matters I will leave you with the following statistics
which are based on final scores of BYU-Utah games:7 in a row.11 of the past 12.12-3 since 2005.Enjoy your
PAC-12 basement and half-empty Huntsman Center.
Felis,How could it be that Arizona is ranked #1 in the AP poll and
only #11 in your RPI?Or Duke #8 in AP and 60 in RPI?Or
Ohio State #3 in AP and #23 in RPI?Or Michigan State #5 in AP and
#21 in RPIKeep telling yourself byu is better than Arizona, Duke,
Ohio State, and Michigan State.LOLROLF indeed!
FelisCondor,And Duke has an RPI of 60.So you must think
that Texas and USU are better than Duke?LOL!Let me help
you out: RPI doesn't mean much this early in the season when a lot of teams
are playing a lot of bad teams. And why do many teams(including Duke) play a
lot of bad teams out of conference?Because we actually have a very
good conference and play many great conference teams, unlike teams in lesser
conferences like the WCC.But keep on telling yourself that byu and
usu are better than DukeLOL!
"byu is an ok team, has beaten a very average Pac 12 Stanford team and a
Texas team picked near the bottom of the Big 12.Utah will be the
biggest test they've faced outside of the 3 ranked teams(which they lost
all of)"ROFL, ROFL, ROFL. Seriously Chris? If you're
going to troll, at least be factual.According to the current CBS
Sports RPI ratings, Texas is #28, USU is #56, and Stanford is #74. All three
are ranked much higher than Utah (#124) and the best team Utah beat, Fresno
State (#94).BYU has already played 6 teams with an RPI ranking
higher than Utah's, and beat three of them. The ones they lost to all have
RPIs in the top 20.I think you seriously overestimate Utah's
chances -- but then that's what you normally do. Carry on.
@ Chris BYou said, "And remember byu fans, the team that scores
MORE points is the better team."Wrong again. The best team will
be determined by it's entire body of work for the season which will be
measured by the final rankings.Mark it down.
byu is an ok team, has beaten a very average Pac 12 Stanford team and a Texas
team picked near the bottom of the Big 12.Utah will be the biggest
test they've faced outside of the 3 ranked teams(which they lost all of)It wont end well for Halford and the cougarsAnd remember byu
fans, the team that scores MORE points is the better team.
Halford should do well tonight and I predict he will score in double figures.More importantly, I hope he plays well Saturday against a very tough
Utah team . . . and in the upcoming conference battles in the WCC.BYU kind of chooses its poison with its defensive weaknesses. They struggle
covering inside shooters, guarding the three point line, and limiting
penetration. It's tough to do all three!
Huge fan of Halford. I think he's criminally underrated. I've seen
what he could do at SLCC and expect nothing but energy from him every time