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Published: Tuesday, Dec. 10 2013 2:25 p.m. MST

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MapleDon
Springville, UT

What does Mandela have to do with the Republican Party? Oh, I get it. It's the old news media agenda masked as a story to instruct the low-information crowd. It's simple: the Left=good; the Right=hate. Got it. Commie koolaid.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

What the... is this guy talking about?

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Not when a decent number of conservatives consider Mandela some commie terrorist (the comments on Sen. Lee's facebook post honoring Mandela are rather crazy).

Res Novae
Ashburn, VA

Considering that some of the DN's commenters have asserted that there was nothing wrong with apartheid, I fear that holding up Mandela as an example to emulate is wasted effort.

Phranc
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@mapledon
Oh, I get it. It's the old evil news media attacking the poor innocent and defenseless GOP again. Your comment once again serves as proof that when Romany was talking about the 47% he was talking about the victim state of mind of the GOP.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

The tea party legacy, it passed recently too. See new budget deal.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

What the heck does Mendela have to do with the GOP? I think Mendela's influence on the GOP is about as strong as whichever team wins the Super Bowl will have influence over the GOP.

revive the GOP? I don't think that's very likely. Especially since the majority of the GOP refuses to even acknowledge that they're dead.

We all see how dead they are. How they're rotting in the polls and have lost just about everyone except for old white evangelicals. Unfortunately, the GOP's leadership has yet to acknowledge this.

Jazzsmack
Holladay, UT

The real question us can Mandela's legacy teach anything the to the entrenched and uncompromising democrat party and the extreme left?

David
Centerville, UT

Mandela refused to embrace hate.

Obama has said "Republicans can come along for the ride but they'll have to sit at the back of the bus".

And Obama said we will punish our enemies.

Sounds to me like Obama is similar to Mandela...er.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Did anyone read the article before commenting?

"Can Mandela's legendary eschewing of the politics of hate teach anything to Washington partisans who play politics with a vengeance? Can Mandela's lesson properly shame Washington politicians who gleefully scheme to make their opponents fail - even when this willful failure delays America's pursuit of prosperity? For years, we have witnessed Washington's decent to its de facto status of Hate City - and yet we, as citizens, put up with it. We watch politicos peacock around in our living rooms, on our screens. Then we re-elect our own senators and representatives - and complain everyone else's."

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

"Martin Schram writes political analysis for Scripps Howard News Service."

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And, like most others in the mainstream media, he writes with a distinctly leftward leaning.

Too bad. Despite the biased headline, when I started reading the article it appeared his approach might actually include Democrats among those who could learn necessary lessons from the conciliatory actions of Nelson Mandela. But, too soon and too predictably, it concluded with the familiar one-sided determination that it is only Republicans who need tutoring.

I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican and have voted for candidates from both parties. One of the biggest reasons I've never joined either party is because of the tendency toward greater partisanship than citizenship shown by too many of their members. In other words, there are too many in both parties that need to learn from Mandela's statesmanship.

Based on this article, I'd say Schram needs to study Mandela a bit more too.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Washington politicians who gleefully scheme to make their opponents fail - even when this willful failure delays America's pursuit of prosperity?"

This sums up our countries political problems in a nutshell. Our parties, and a big chunk of the electorate put party over country.

Until that changes, our country will flounder.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Yep.

Today's American GOP can learn something from the now defunct Apartheid, white-man ruled, uber-conservative South Africa --
and the election of the left-leaning, Nelson Mandela as South Africa's 1st black President.

Wake-up.
History will once again prove you have been wrong.

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

Truthseeker

You probably are on to something, because as long as this idea is applied to BOTH political parties, then something can be said for change in D.C. The trouble is, I think most of the change needs to come from the Democrats, who for instance have just recently changes the rules in the Senate for their own needs. And I think the Democrats have many more "bomb throwers" in both office and the media. That, in my opinin is the source of much anger and lack of cooperation in D.C. I'm sure you would say just the opposite of me.

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

Mandela was a communist. He did engage in violence. Terriorist or freedom fighter? Your point of view. He also helped bring some equality and justice to millions in Africa. His wife Winnie was said to have done some pretty bad things. But we should leave her out of this because it is about him. Mandela was, like every other leader, a person who had both good and bad in his life. 27 years in prison was a long time. And he did not come out bitter, but forgiving from what I've understood. Strong character in that. And it should be remembered that it was also the white minority who had the power in South Africa, and they in the end allowed change to happen without a lot of bloodshed, which they could have caused. I just wish the rest of the despotic leaders on the African continent would be equally peaceful in allowing more rights and freedom to their people. Instead we have the a lot of leaders there who are not taking the Mandela approach.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

“He seems like a decent enough fellow, but there’s something about that Mandela guy I just don’t like. He reminds of the guy in the White House – both left of me but not nearly as left as other I admire or at least don’t hate (e.g., FDR, Eisenhower, Clinton). I can’t quite put my finger on it, but when I look at Mandela and our current president I just seethe.”

Subconsciously (or not) thought many on the far-right over the last 5 days (years).

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Revive the GOP? Is this for real?
The GOP supported everything Mandela fought. The GOP in the US supported Apartheid. How does this paper have credibility with these sorts of articles?

jsf
Centerville, UT

Yes Ernest the US did not condemn South Africa for Apartheid, but then it was Woodrow Wilson a Democrat that segregated the U.S. military and Washington D.C., he supported separate but equal. Democrats were the hold outs on the Civil Rights legislation that started in the fifties. The Democrats were part of the government also. Don't recall them as a party standing up against Apartheid. But if you say it long enough you will get the uninformed to believe what you say. Of course Mandela was arrested for his group being in possession of a large number of anti - personnel mines and other explosives. His stay in prison could have been shorter if he had denounced his groups terrorist actions. And has any of his work actually improved the economic conditions in South Africa? I listened to a black South African on the radio yesterday say conditions are no better now for the mainstream black than they were under Apartheid. So now Obama got his shining selfie moment, the left has their black Che, and its time to address the problems for real.

Nan BW
ELder, CO

Why would we want the GOP to follow his example? He was a revolutionary and that can be good, but he was responsible for countless deaths in his violent approach. I don't get it.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

What is with the GOP and their fantasy world of trying to associate with great leaders?

Abrahma Lincoln was an R, but he was a Liberal Progressive.
Ronald Reagan was an R, but he would today be considered a RINO.

Nelson Mandela was a Socialist/Communist -- and days ago Tea-Party darling neo-con Senator Mike Lee calls him "a champion for liberty and justice, and one of the great heroes of our age."

Nelson Mandela fought against EVERYTHING the GOP stands for today.
So, the only way Madela can revive the GOP is for the GOP to listen to their own advice and stop being the Party of Stupid.

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