Bronco will be facing Chris Peterson for the 2nd time this season. Fun matchup.
With a lame duck coach and not a solid practice plan leading up to the
game.....I take the Cougs!
Should be an interesting game with Chris Peterson calling the shots. Go
Now charlie Peterson can loose to byu two times this year.
Tuiasosopo will be coaching UW. The huskies will run all over our D with
Sankey. Lots of time off between now and the game. Hope Hill can stay sharp
during that time. Poor offensive strategy has kept this team from winning games
against ND and Wisc. Come on Anae, lets have some fun.
Uh....the article states that Marques Tuiasosopo will be the interim coach for
Washington during the bowl game and not Chris Peterson. Please read
the article first before commenting
Way to go Cougs! You just as we'll go win one against the mighty PAC 12,
then you can shut certain BYU haters up. Seriously , the Cougs have to win this
one if they have any hope of a top 10 ranking next year.
Re stumperPlease be realistic. This year many fans
clamored that BYU is a Top 15 school and we proved we couldnt beat a 19 th
ranked Wisconsin or 24 ranked ND. They were bigger and more dominant. Heck we
lost to the team up North that went 2-7 in thier league. Say what you want, but
between the lines they beat us. Again. So many Cougar fans are
delusional and put too huge of expectations on the young men that play at BYU.
The Top 10 teams are very very good. We are a long ways from a Top
10 team. Let's try and get inside the top 25 first. Just saying
Best of luck to the Cougars. They'll need it. Chris Petersen + Bishop
Sankey + Keith Price = 21 point favorites. They'll get a little taste of
what Utah has to go through week after week. Time to take the medicine
Cougars.StumperYou're kidding right? Please tell me that
was just a joke. I hope that was just a joke. Wake up 1984 was a long time ago.
I'm certain Washington is less than excited about this bowl or opponent.
@Horrible StumperTop 10? That ain't happening anytime soon.@IndeMakYeah, I bet Washington would rather sit at home for
two years than go to this bowl game. Get real.
Ute fans commenting on BYU's bowl game is equivalent to BYU fans commenting
on a Ute article when Utah loses.
IndeMak said..."I'm certain Washington is less than excited
about this bowl or opponent."I would guess that most BYU fans
couldn't care less what Washington thinks. But I'm pretty sure most
Cougar fans appreciate 'Ur couch perspective and interest on these matters.
LOLSlcftball"This year many fans clamored that BYU
is a Top 15 school.."No they didn't, an absolute delusional
fabrication on your part. Please find me one comment that supports this. I do believe IF BYU had beaten Virginia, Utah, Wisconsin and ND they
could have been ranked around 15 or so but NO ONE ever stated or clamored
"that BYU IS a Top 15 school".The only delusion going on is
you making stuff up. Try harder.
The excuses from SLC will start immediately. "The coaching change caused
Washington to lose" "BYU only won the game is because Sark quit".
"Washington didn't have time to prepare". This will happen for
sure. Utah fans will cry when BYU beats PAC 12 power Washington.
Ok, an explanation. I have read several comments where BYU wants to be a top 10
team. The Cougs strength of schedule next year will not get it done even if they
were to go undefeated next year. Next years preseason ranking will be determined
by how they finish this year. If their goal is to be in the top 10 next year
they will have to spank Washington in the bowl game. Do I believe they can do
it? No...but I do think they can lay the ground work for the next season. The
Utes have the strength of schedule to end up in the top 10 if they were to go
undefeated, but based on their season this year we know that ain't
happening for several years to come. if we can use Fresno and Northern Illinois
as examples, the Aggies would have to go undefeated and beat everyone by 2-3
touchdowns to get a sniff of the top 10. Just say in' the Cougs are making
progress, the Utes not so much.
PG #1 FAN,I'm confident that excuses will not be necessary.
I can't believe BYU fans are still talking about a top ten ranking.Based on
the latest ranking, BYU lost to every top 25 opponent they played this year.
They are going into next year with a lot of holes to fill on both sides of the
ball due to graduation and a schedule that was more difficult than this year. A
taste of reality would go a long way into building BYU's credibility.
IndeMak"I'm certain Washington is less than excited about
this bowl or opponent."I guess that says it all about the
stature of the Huskies compared to the Utes; we all know that the Utes would be
ecstatic to be playing in any bowl.
@Blue Coug:Read the article, which states Peterson will take over
coaching duties after the bowl game. Am interim coach will coach WA for the bowl
All I want for Christmas is....world peace, and all I want for this bowl game
is....to fight hunger...oh, and one more thing, would like to start out 2014
with BYU having beaten Washington in the Bowl game, by a sizable margin,like
say, 50-7! That's all I want. Santa are you getting this?
It wouldn't be the first time BYU has beaten a "better" PAC team in
a bowl game because the other team essentially failed to show up (cf. Oregon
State, 2009). And it can be pretty demoralizing to lose your coach before the
season is over. The biggest wild card, however, is the BYU offense and Robert
IndeMakI know what you mean man ...... A lot like Alabama a few years ago?
@duckhunterOn 12/4 you posted, "let's see how the pac12
fairs during bowl season. If the conference is over .500 in bowl games then I
will give them more credit with one caveat, it can't be the bottom pac12
teams beating the mwc, cusa, and other low level teams while the top pac12 teams
lose. The top pac12 teams need to win most of their bowl games.Love
it when you set the terms. The PAC-12 has 8 teams playing in bowls. Five are
against BCS conference teams. I guess those are the only ones you will consider
from your definition. The highest ranked bowl not against those teams is the
Las Vegas Bowl matching USC and MWC Fresno State. Because the Fight Hunger Bowl
is lower ranked it would appear you are considering BYU in the "other low
level teams" by you definition. Wow, quite a position from you.Because the bowls make some attempt to match teams (ie. the PAC-12 sixth place
team playing BYU) I will judge the PAC-12's bowl performance based on the
entire body of work.Can't wait.
Sorry, I made a mistake above there are ( PAC-12 teams playing in bowls. (And
yes, Utah is not one of them!)
My initial reaction is to expect BYU to get beaten, but in a close game much
like they did against Wisconsin and Notre Dame. Especially if I read BYUphiles
from Utah that love to post here. PAC12 teams obviously recruit bigger,
stronger, faster athletes. But, perhaps a healthier team can gird up and play
better and beat Washington much as they beat UCLA, Oregon State and Oregon in
recent bowls. A less-than motivated Washington team could have a let down.May the force be with the Cougars so magic will happen. Still, I have
concerns over BYU's o-line and the less than impressive push the d-line
gives. Should be a fun game.
If BYU can play offense, like they did the first half, of the Boise State game,
than a victory is possible.
Washington's a good team... They've always been good and even without
Sark they will be very good... I love both teams as I have a Degree from both
schools but I have to say that I have a stronger allegiance to the Cougs... The Schools have played each other 8 times with a 4-4 split... The utes
have also played the Huskies 8 times and are 0-8, but then they are 1-12 against
the SunDevils so they are use to being constant losers in their new
converence... I've learned that the big bad pac12 has been very
grateful to utah for joining their conference, so congratulations... In fact,
Washington State and Arizona are particularly grateful as some of my friends who
are alumni tell me that without the utes they wouldn't have the 6 wins
needed to qualify for a bowl game this year. And for the Washington State
Faithful it has been 10 years since they last qualified...I'm guessing that
in about 6 years the utes AD will begin lobbying to get Weber State, Evergreen
State, Idaho State, and Cal Poly into the conference so they can once again get
6 wins to qualify.
On a serious note... BYU needs to get way better with their Offense or they will
get shut out... And the Defense needs to do a better job against both the run
and the pass than they did against Wisconsin or the Huskies will light the
I doubt BYU could have expected any tougher of competition than they will face
this year in their Bowl Game. Washington is capable of destroying BYU and vice
versa. It will be a tough challenge for the Cougs. They have shown that they
can bring a lousy or no game plan at all to tough games. Is that what we can
expect this game? If BYU starts out slowly offensively, they will get behind
very quickly and will not be able to catch up. Coach Anae needs to get Hill to
work on seam passes to tight ends, good crossing routes for tight ends and wide
receivers, dump passes to backs across the middle, and lots of running back
rushes. How about a screen pass or two? How about some creativity? How about
a surprise play or two? How about mixing it up a little? How about we have a
leading rusher who is not Hill? Are we asking too much of the coaches? Good
luck Cougars, but you will have to bring a great game to this Bowl Game.
Good luck Cougars. If our offense stumbles in this one, we HAVE to get rid of
Anae. I like Bronco personally and think he's a good D coach, but he has
GOT to focus on our offense and stop hiring inexperienced (Doman) and goofy
(Anae) coaches. I'm noticing a lot of other Y fans are getting
antsy about this team - several years now of underperforming on offense.
All right!!!!BYU and Washington in the Hunger Game......And may the Odds
forever be in your favor.
This is actually a great bowl match-up for BYU considering some of the stinker
6-6 teams out there they could be playing. This may be a minor bowl but it has
probably the best match-up outside of the January bowls.There must
be an error - I keep scanning the list of bowl match-ups and can't find
To all the posters using this forum to take cheap shots at Utah. Utah beat
Stanford, what bowl is Stanford in? The Utes lost a one point game to ASU.
ASU played Stanford for the PAC 12 championship. Utah beat BYU and USU, both
bowl bound. All I am saying is the future of football at the U is not as gloomy
as some posters would like to believe. The PAC 12 is a big step from the MWC.
Maybe I am just an optimist by nature. I am a long time Aggie fan and Logan
native who never faith in USU. Utah fans should ignore the critics and do the
An interesting matchup. First, one comment stated byu may get shut out, can
tell you right now, not going to happen. Washington is nowhere as big or as
good as Wisconsin or ND for that matter. We will score. The problem will be
can we stop them from scoring. Must stop the run game first. I am not sure why
fans think Washington will not be excited to play, they were not in contention
for a bcs bowl so no let down. I think they will be excited and ready.
Coaching changes can work both ways, can help or hurt, interesting to see what
will happen with that. Many of the players feel betrayed by Sark, may motivate
them. I think it will be a good game. Hopefully, we will get healthy and we
will see what happens.
@BlueCoug you may want to catch up on the previous news before Chris Peterson
jumped ship. Tuiasosopo was named the interim and will be coaching the bowl
game...anyway the Smurf Fair Tale has final come to an end...it's over!!!
Still not impressed with Robert Anae's... limited offensive schematic no
mater How Fast and Furious and how many plays he gets off...It's still just
as predictable and limited as it was when he left 3 years ago. The Defense is
solider than it's been in a long time but the OC position is still
BYU's weakest link.
Congratulations to the Cougs for a bowl worthy season. Although things
didn't look too good early on, Taysom really settled into the offense and
finished strong. Washington finished the season strong and should be a great
opponent for BYU.
byu couldn't beat the #10 team in the Pac 12
Alls I know is Byu is easily the top 15 program.
Washington and the prestigious Pac 12 will likely win this game. Washington has
amazing speed and athleticism. And if anyone thinks by beating texas
you've somehow proven that athleticism and speed don't matter, I just
have one response: LOL!
Interesting to note that every Utah loss was to a team playing in a bowl and
Utah defeated 3 bowl teams including the number 5 ranked team in the nation.
That also means no team that defeated Utah had a losing record. (That is of
some small comfort.)
Guam_BombBARRIGADA, GU"I can't believe BYU fans are
still talking about a top ten ranking.Based on the latest ranking, BYU lost to
every top 25 opponent they played this year."Texas was top 25
when we beat them, 30 currently. With 6 opponents BYU defeated playing in bowl
games, there may well be a few that end up top 25."They are
going into next year with a lot of holes to fill on both sides of the ball due
to graduation and a schedule that was more difficult than this year."You are the only one I've heard that thinks next year's
schedule will be MORE difficult than this year's."A taste
of reality would go a long way into building BYU's credibility."A taste of credibility would go a long way in building your reality...
To all our jealous, ankle-biting little friends on the hill:BYU is
4-4 versus Washington, 2-0 under BroncoUtah is 0-8 versus Washington, 0-2
under KyleBYU's chances of beating Washington - 50/50Utah's chances of beating Washington - 0BYU will be playing
in their 9th straight bowlUtah will be suffering their 2nd straight
couldn't beat the #10 team in the Pac 12"Neither could PAC
12 champion Stanford; more proof that the better team doesn't always win
Looking at the bowl matchups, I see that the mighty Pac 12 could easily lay a
goose egg this year. We could always dream and hope they at least match last
year's bowl record of 2 wins and 5 losses. Since they have a whopping 9
teams playing bowls, there is a chance they could match last year's bowl
win percentage. I'm not holding my breath. Other than one or two teams,
this is the conference that chokes in the post season.
Interesting to note that 2 of Utah's paltry 5 wins were against teams that
weren't even good enough to qualify for a bowl and 2 of Utah's other
wins were against teams that Utah fans have spent the entire season
denigrating.In other words, the Utes only had ONE decent win the
entire season, and that was obviously nothing more than a fluke.BYU,
on the other hand, beat SIX bowl-bound, obviously-better-than-Utah teams, all
with at least 7 regular season wins.
@KenSandy, UT"byu couldn't beat the #10 team in the
Pac 12"So what else is new from a BYU hater's perspective
like you? We heard you loud and clear! I know you think we're no good but
that's not new. Yes, we lost four in a row to the Pac 12 #10. (Goodness,
I hope you're not proud of that designation!) But I suppose it makes you
feel superior to keep dishing that out, does it?. Well, it's ok.
We're still going bowling against your Pac 12 #6 I think? and that's
quite fine with us. Wish you could be a gentleman and root for BYU like many of
us Cougar fans support the Utes when you're not playing us! But I guess
that's just too much to ask! Go Cougars! Go Aggies! And good
luck next year Utes!
Great matchup in an exciting bowl venue for the BYU!Washington will
be a much tougher opponent than Utah. The Huskies ended the season destroying
Oregon State(69-27) and beating Washington State(27-17), two teams that were too
good for the Utes to handle, and Washington rolled over Utah's pseudo
"rival" Colorado 59-7, a team that the Utes barely beat 24-17.
Why are Utah fans so obsessed with BYU's bowl game?Shouldn't they be more concerned with their own bowl game?
No, we're not proud of our lack of success in the Pac 12.We are
proud of our conference membership and instate domination... and frustrated by
the byu "fans" that take shots at the team that they can't beat
under byu articles and pile on under Utah articles. Not to mention the local
Who got the better draw?BYU playing Washington in San Francisco on
Friday evening, December 27th?orNotre Dame playing
Rutgers in The Bronx on Saturday afternoon, December 28th?
If Kraft wants to fight hunger maybe they should drop their prices instead of
spending advertising dollars on a bowl game.
They already did, a long time ago. I don't know about dropped prices but I
work in warehousing and see that Kraft donates tons of outdated and slightly
damaged items to the food banks.
ekuteCongratulations on your state championship - high school days
are fun to remember.Meanwhile, BYU will be playing for their 5th
straight bowl win, while our jealous little brothers have already clinched their
3rd season without a bowl win in the last 5 season.
BYU doesn't have a "killer" schedule next year. It is hopefully a
top 50 schedule with several decent mid-level teams. Still a better schedule
than nearly all the ones BYU played in conference history, just not as juicy as
2013 was. BYU faces three stiff challenges on the road with UCF probably being
the most difficult game. Hopefully UConn and Virginia win more next year.
UConn finished hot going 3-0 and Virginia had three games they lost that they
were oh so close.Marquee1 @UCF2 @TexasReally Good Teams3 @Boise State4 USU5 HoustonBowl Teams6 @Middle TN State7 UNLV Not so
good8 NevadaDregsVirgina, @UConn (who ended
3-0), Savannah State, @Cal
talkinsports"Who got the better draw?"It'll
be interesting to see how much interest the Pinstripe Bowl draws with Notre
Dame(8-4) versus Rutgers(6-6), especially amongst Fighting Irish fans.
Congratulations Cougars, make us proud!
@ Chris B:You should keep in mind that many (if not most) of your
"LOL" statements have ended up with egg on your face over the past few
years.You should also keep in mind that you picked BYU to lose in most of
the last 4 bowl games that they've won in a row.As such, your
football credibility concerning anything BYU was lost a long time ago. Nobody
pays much attention... accept to laugh a bit at your extreme anti-BYU
rhetoric... just like I'm now doing. Since Utah football is
currently looking for a comfortable couch in front of a tv... again, have you
got any more of your "guarantee's" for us on the upcoming football
bowl games regarding other teams still playing?
It'll be interesting to see what Sankey can do against BYUs defense.
Fortunately for Washington, they do have the ability to throw it, otherwise
they'd be in trouble like Georgia Tech was.
I encourage all Cougar fans to set aside petty rivalry animosity this year and
invite a Ute into your home to watch the bowl game. It's the least we can
do for our down trodden rivals.
Jon Wilner calls the Fight Hunger Bowl a WINNER:"The San
Francisco-based game will match Washington and Brigham Young, two of the most
successful programs in the west."BYU is definitely going to have
to play one of their best games of the season if the Cougars are going to have
any chance of beating Washington.------------ekuteWant some cheese to go with that whine? Seriously, you're here on a
BYU bowl article talking smack, while whining about BYU fans not respecting your
bungalowMore sour grapes hyperbole from our jealous little friends
on the hill.BYU played the 35th toughest schedule in the country in
2013 and succeeded where the Utes with their 3rd toughest schedule failed.BYU beat SIX bowl-bound teams that won at least 7 regular season games,
which is equivalent to the best regular season record the Utes have had since
joining the PAC.
@ ekute:As an ardent BYU fan, I personally don't like most of
the bantering back and forth between BYU and Utah fans. Most of it is uncalled
for. But because Utah is no longer playing, a lot of the original Ute fan
comments on these recent BYU articles are somewhat negative. And a lot of the
anti-Utah comments are in response to those anti-BYU comments. You
are usually one of the more objective commenters... while still strongly
supporting your team. I've admired that approach and hope you and most of
the rest of us can continue to try keeping the uncalled for negative statements
in context. It's easy for most of us to get our ire up when someone puts
down "our" team, regardless of the reason. It's not easy to keep
from responding in a similar defensive way. I genuinely admire that you and a
few others (on both sides) are usually above that kind of stuff.
bungalow (aka Chris B)LOL at your whiny, delusional hyperbole.BYU finished 5-2 against teams that won 8 or more regular season
games.While BYU is playing in their 9th straight bowl game (ties
Utah's best consecutive bowl appearance streak, though not even close to
BYU's best, which is 17), the Utes will once again be spending quality time
with their PAC 12 stickers.
Good match up; looking forward to it. Bishop Sankey is the real deal!
@ Marked it DownYou are right Utah only had one quality win this
year, but where you are wrong it was not a fluke. Utah dominated Stanford in the
trenches and in the skill positions. Take away the kick return for a TD and the
score is not even that close.
People, BYU won't be facing Chris Peterson a second time this season. An
interm coach will be at the helm not Peterson. That being said, I think the
cougars will win a close one. Our run defense should keep this close. With a
good field, I think Hoffman makes a "pre draft" statement and has 8-10
catches for 120 yards. Van Noy has 2 sacks and an interception and the Cougars
win by a score of 35 - 27
@ Spokane Ute:I agree with you. It will be good matchup. As big of a
challenge as BYU could've hoped for in order to finish up this season with
some national attention should they win. Same for the Aggies. Playing a
1-lose nationally ranked team is a tall order. But I think they will rise to the
challenge.Hopefully, both teams will represent our state well. And here's also hoping that we get all 3 of our local colleges back
representing our state in bowl games next year... similar to what we did 2 years
bungalow, maybe you're new here, but there's something we've all
been saying all year long. It really stinks to lose to the U, thanks for
pointing that out, but it's something that we didn't already know.
However, our point is that our season means so much more than just one game. A
winning record and a bowl game is better than already having your locker cleaned
out, no matter how you spin it. period. The U game leaves a bitter
taste, sure, but I would have forgotten about you guys in September if you
weren't always on here to remind us of your "superiority". And I
think that's what drives you guys so crazy, BYU isn't as obsessed with
the U, as you guys are with us. Either way, after all is said and done and
things are written down in the record books, BYU will have a winning season for
2013, and that's really what matters to me.
"I encourage all Cougar fans to set aside petty rivalry animosity this year
and invite a Ute into your home to watch the bowl game. It's the least we
can do for our down trodden rivals."ED - that is one of the most
compassionate remarks I've ever heard coming from a Cougar and going to a
ute. I will take your advice, and furthermore I will serve crimson
sparkling cider and a big drum stick. If chris b would show up, I have a quart
of eggnog for him.
From this Ute fan, best wishes to BYU...should be a very good matchup and
possibly one of the better bowl games before the January slate. I
know BYU fans love Sarkisian and he did an admirable job in Seattle as coach of
the Huskies, but I actually think Washington scored getting Peterson as their
new coach. With the recruiting success he had at Boise State, taking his
success to a traditionally strong Washington Husky program could make them the
team to beat in the PAC in 2-3 years. I see the Huskies possibly competing for
a national championship one day with Peterson at the helm. I think he is the
best coach in America. I'm not going to lie, as a Ute fan it
stinks not going to a bowl game, even if it were the Gildan New Mexico Bowl.
I'd rather be bowling in a warm climate in December. No reason
to hate on one another BYU and Utah. We don't have to like each other much,
but success at either school is good for all programs in the state.
CrowUtah's win over Stanford was as big a fluke as
Virginia's win over BYU.For all of Utah's so called
dominance in that game, Stanford was one errant pass away from beating the Utes
on the final play of the game, similar to the tipped pass that cost BYU the game
Despite their constant denials, it's obvious from the comments on this blog
that Utah fans would rather beat BYU, than go to a bowl.That's
quite understandable since BYU was for over a quarter of a century (1965 to
1991), and has once again become, Utah's bowl game.
Sammyg, read Deseret News' article from Jeff Call, on August 28, 2011 to
find out where the Top 10 expectations come from. I can't post the link
here due to the DNews archaic comment rules.Mendenhall and his
players have stated repeatedly that their goal is to win a national
championship:Jake Heaps:"We have high expectations for
ourselves...We're shooting for a national championship and a chance to play
for a BCS game. That's what we're going to play for.JJ
DeLuigi:"But what I want to be remembered for even more is bringing
back another national championship..."The way Mendenhall sees
it, by moving ahead as an independent, anything can be achieved. That would
include winning a national championship. "When I consider what are the
obstacles and is it possible, I think it is," Mendenhall said. "I would
just as soon say it. There will be detractors everywhere that say it's not
possible. I'm not one of them. I think it is possible."
Sorry Cougs I dont see you coming out on top in this one. It should be close but
Washington is too much for you guys to handle.
@Rose Bowl call yet?"Despite their constant denials, it's
obvious from the comments on this blog that Utah fans would rather beat BYU,
than go to a bowl.That's quite understandable since BYU was for
over a quarter of a century (1965 to 1991), and has once again become,
Utah's bowl game."How embarrassing it must be to realize
your own players called that game their Super Bowl, took a bye week to prepare
for it to make sure the seniors didn't get swept, especially after the
entire fan base declared Utah "too chicken to play the cougars", only to
get beat. Again. At home. But then to make a frantic and emotional attempt to
turn that around on the other side? That's just sad.
@StanFunkyShould BYU not be trying to win a national championship? Is that
really what bugs you about BYU?
Red HumorOne thing's for sure, at least BYU has a chance of
coming out on top in this one. The Utes, on the other hand, wouldn't stand
a chance.Washington has always been too much for the Utes to handle,
0-8 all time, 0-2 under Whittingham.
stanfunkySorry but your spin is laughable - having high
expectations, such as winning a national championship, is not the same as
predicting a national championship.
bungalow"Maybe next year BYU can play the likes of Stevens
Henegar College, Debry University, and LDS Business College to improve their
won/loss record."You mean so BYU's football schedule could
match Utah's basketball schedule?
"BYU football: Cougars to play Washington in Fight Hunger Bowl"Looks like another PAC-12 opponent that will plaster BYU just like they did to
Boise State. If the Cougies can't beat Utah. How are they going
to handle a very solid Washington Huskies team?
There's way too much chest thumping on the part of some of my fellow BYU
fans here. I remember when we complained about the opponent in our first 2
Holiday Bowls and then got beat in both games. We've been doing this for
decades. Let's let our wins do the talking. While I may dislike Utah and a
few of their obnoxious fans, they have gone to and WON 2 BCS Bowls. BYU has not.
Outside of Texas and BSU, we did not have a great season. Our
offense still is weak under Anae and our lines fail to control the big games. I
would love to see us beat UW but will not be making any predictions. If you don't like the behavior of some Ute fans, don't try to be as
obnoxious as they are. And let's stop talking about their bowl and record.
They've beaten us 4 years straight and own the bragging rights.
facts:BYU isn't a Top 20 football team. Sorry. Nor will they be a
top 10 team in the next decade.Utah's basketball schedule is
314th out of 314 teams. Even I am embarrassed.Utah wont go to the
Rose Bowl in the next decade. They are better than their record indicates, but
the level of competition has risen far too quick for a quick catch up.BYU needs to pull their head out and get into a conference that matters. Utah's AD is a coward for ducking BYU. C'mon-its the best
thing going in November!BYU will beat Utah in Basketball.Doman will be coaching somewhere by next year.If Wash had Sark and
the motivation, they would beat BYU by 10. Now I am leaning Cougs way.Love both Rose and Coach K-think they are doing as well as possible.Saying BYU is a Top 10 Football team is about as likely as them getting to the
Final 4. Not happening unfortunately. Utah still needs a QB.There is always something to complain about :)
Lots of mean people on the discussion today. It's called schadenfreude
folks -- look it up, it's not a really flattering form of insecurity.Looking forward to what is likely to be a very entertaining match up
between BYU and Washington. Should be some points on the board, which always
makes the games fun, but defense should be the difference in this one. Neither
team reached greatness this season, but both enjoyed good success and should
give one another a run for their money. I've got my tickets. See you in
San Francisco! Here we go Cougars!(Go Aggies!)
truthsandwich"How embarrassing it must be to realize your own
players called that game their Super Bowl"ONE player, KVN, as
great as he is, does equal PLAYERS, and he certainly doesn't speak for the
vast majority of BYU fans and players who would much rather have a successful,
bowl-ending season, than have their entire season determined by the outcome of
one game.Utah was better for one game in September, but your season
ended before the all-so-important bowl games Utah fans used to brag about even
began.Spin it anyway you want, but despite the early season thrill
of beating BYU, Ute nation is bitterly disappointed that they'll once again
be spending bowl week watching their bitter rival play in another bowl, while
the Utes are back home sulking on their couches.
Bleed CrimsonRemind us the last time uties beat Washington; or Boise
State, or Texas?The record clearly shows that BYU would be much more
competitive in the PAC 12, than the Utes have been:Versus PAC
OpponentsBronco - 9-8(53%), including 2-0 versus WashingtonKyle -
13-21((38%), including 0-2 versus WashingtonThe Utes are all talk,
but no walk, when it comes to actually competing in the PAC.
This has to be one of the better match ups in the history of the Fight Hunger
Bowl. Should be a great game.
BYU vs. Washington is a very good match up and this should be an entertaining
game. Each team has significant strengths and apparent weaknesses. I believe
it will all come down to preparation. The Huskies have an advantage in that
Robert Anae is entirely predictable. There's no guesswork figuring out his
play calling (when it's 3rd and 14, they'll run). They won't
have to spend any time preparing for trick plays or mis-directions.However, BYU will win if they play to the best of their abilities. If
Washington matches that effort, we'll be treated to one of the better games
of the 2013-2014 bowl season.
Snack PAC, although your zeal and enthusiasm for BYU competing in the PAC 12 is
admirable, it is all conjecture. The numbers can always be skewed.Yes, BYU under Bronco has a better record than KW against the PAC 12. BYU may
well improve on Utah's dismal PAC 12 record.The 9-8 record in
general are against teams mostly in the middle to lower tier of the PAC 12.
Arizona, Washington was no longer a top of the PAC team when BYU beat them,
Washington State, and Oregon State. UCLA was on the downhill slide in the
Neuheisel years.One win came against Oregon, pre Chip Kelly era when
the Ducks were middle of the PAC. No games or wins against USC, Stanford, or
ASU (against whom BYU is 7-24 all time).If you want to play the
"how many times have you beaten" game, what is BYU's record against
USC and Stanford (teams Utah has beaten). BYU is 0-4.Your argument
also doesn't factor in the weekly grind of playing conference football. As
I said, nobody knows how BYU would fare week in and week out against the PAC 12.
Armchair quarterbacking is all it is.
@kennyYou're right, BYU couldn't beat the team that
snagged 10th place in the big bad pac12 conference ahead of those power houses
Colorado and California... But then again, neither could the #1 team in the big
bad pac12... lol.
DraperUteFanBYU's historic record versus PAC teams is of little
consequence in comparing how Bronco and Kyle have fared versus PAC teams during
the last 9 seasons.It's funny how you completely ignored the
fact that Oregon State was ranked 16th and had narrowly missed playing in the
Rose Bowl, before BYU pummeled the Beavers so badly it knocked them completely
out of the Top 25.Oregon was 8-4 before BYU beat the Ducks.And, let's not forget that Bronco was more competitive in the MWC,
winning 2 conference championship, to Kyle's 1, and never losing to
conference bottom dwellers like CSU, Wyo, UNM, and UNLV. Kyle lost to all of
them, some more than once.11-win seasonsBronco 3 (more than
Utah has in their entire history)Kyle 110-win seasonsBronco 5Kyle 3Kyle had one great season in 2008, but
overall, Bronco has been better.
Lonestar, I said nothing of Bronco versus Kyle, my post about BYU versus the PAC
12, so overall historical record does matter. Snack PAC made the argument that
Utah has never beaten Texas, Boise State, or Washington, so apparently BYU fans
can bring up history unless that rule is applied to them and isn't
flattering? Interesting logic.I said "in general" the teams
that they beat were not the upper echelon PAC teams. There are always exceptions
as you note, but "in general" is what I said and is factual. Your
cohorts have bragged up wins over Washington, but at least one of those wins was
in the Ty Willingham era when Washington had losing seasons. Since you said
"let's not forget" well then let's not forget that two of
BYU's PAC games were against Cal in the Bronco era.My reply was
about BYU's ability to be considerably better in the PAC 12, which I said
was pure conjecture and armchair quarterbacking. Historically, BYU has not been
dominant against the PAC 12 and during the Bronco era have not played USC,
Stanford, or ASU (three of the 4 best teams in the PAC 12 the last decade).
DraperUteFan"Snack PAC made the argument that Utah has never
beaten Texas, Boise State, or Washington"Bronco has beaten all
of those teams.Kyle hasn't beaten any of them.Check
your facts; Bronco has only played California ONCE, in his first season in 2005,
and barely lost to the Bears 28-35.Bottom line: Bronco
is above .500 versus PAC teams with 9 wins in only 17 games.Kyle is
well below .500 versus PAC teams with only 13 wins in 34 games.
Lonestar, once again you think I'm making an argument for Kyle. Read the
posts carefully please. Bronco has a better winning percentage against the PAC
12, an argument you are still making that I never disputed or contradicted...no,
not once.You are also arguing Texas, Boise State, or Washington,
which I made a counter argument. Has Bronco beaten Stanford, Alabama, Michigan
or Texas A&M? It is a moot point. BTW, what is Bronco's record against
ND?Oregon was a middle of the PAC team the year BYU beat them and is
consistent with my original comment. The PAC was 10 teams back then and the
5-6th place team from the PAC played in the Las Vegas bowl. BYU stomped them
and was clearly the better team. I never said it wasn't a dominating
victory...clearly it was. I said it was against one of the middle tier teams,
which is accurate.Prior to joining the PAC 12, Kyle was 4-3 versus
the PAC, so the difficulty of beating good PAC 12 teams in conference play has
proven very difficult. Any argument that BYU would be markedly better is still
just someone's opinion.
Alema Harrington says BYU will win. His last prediction was BYU would put 60 on
Somehow BYU fans think talking about the PAC 12 = being in the PAC 12.You
got trashed last year at home by Oregon State. BYU is 3-8-1 all time
against Colorado. Why is BYU afraid to schedule them?Utah owns you. Idaho St. owns you. BYU can't fill a schedule without them.
My fellow Utes separate real sports fans (U or Y) from (a word I can't say
on comments but sounds like newbie) that live in another world.Any
Y-Hater that is also a Ute fan commenting on this thread is exactly the same as
a (newbie), maybe worse.Are U jealous for BYU's bowl game? The season is over, we're not even in the same conference. Anyone
that can't cheer for more than one team is missing out on half the fun.As a Ute I am driving to the Fight Hunger game with my once a year Y cap
on. I have a feeling I will be having a lot more fun than those that stay home
no matter who you root for.
@ Bleed Crimson:The reason BYU might beat Washington after losing to
Utah is because BYU is playing Washington late in the seaon after their new
offensive and new offensive coordinator have been better integrated into their
system.It's very fortunate for Utah to have played BYU so early in
the season. All polls and ranking services are now contending that Utah
couldn't beat them if they were to play again now.And remember, BYU
is 4-4 overall against Washington, while Utah is a dismal 0-8.@
Swishfrom3:There is no was possible way for you to actually know
what either BYU or Utah will do in their respective football programs over the
next decade. None. Believe it or not, things change. Auburn was one of the worst
teams in the country last year and this year they will be playing for the
national championship. Literally no one would've guessed that kind of turn
around at the end of last year... not even you. Your "facts" are
starting to sound like Chris B's "guarantees".So many
of your stated “facts” are merely opinion and nothing more. And that
actually is a fact.
@Tators"The reason BYU might beat Washington after losing to
Utah is because BYU is playing Washington late in the season..."Interesting thought, but irrational. Wouldn't you assume that both BYU
AND UW have improved by the end of the season? Both UW and BYU have the same
record at 8-4, but BYU's record is against a SOS ranked 35. UW, on the
other hand, played a SOS ranked 13. Not surprisingly, Sagarin has BYU power
rated at #30 while UW is #12. So, whatever progress you think BYU has made
obviously hasn't changed its position vis a vis UW. It's very
fortunate for Utah to have played BYU so early in the season. All polls and
ranking services are now contending that Utah couldn't beat them if they
were to play again now.And remember, BYU is 4-4 overall against
Washington, while Utah is a dismal 0-8.
As an alum of both schools, I love this matchup. However, I think BYU peaked
several weeks ago and based on their performance against UNR, I would have to
give the edge to UW. BYU's defense has turned out to be not as great as we
thought and BYU's offense struggles to put 2 good halves together. And Hill
still acts indecisive in the pocket and hasn't learned to get rid of the
ball. BYU has one of the highest "sacks allowed" stats in the nation.
Half of that is on the O-Line but Hill himself owns the other half.Eastcoastcoug is right. This "my team's better than your team"
banter is getting really old. Truth is, fans of neither team have much room to
brag. Until Utah can compete in the Pac 12 and BYU can beat Utah, neither fan
base should be dogging on the other.
WACpaddled"BYU is 3-8-1 all time against Colorado. Why is BYU
afraid to schedule them?"LOL at your deliberately misleading
spin.Why would BYU be afraid to schedule a team they've
dominated since 1946?BYU is 3-1 versus Colorado in their last four
meetings, including a dominating 41-20 win in Boulder and a 20-17 bowl win in
their last meeting.btw, who's playing Idaho State next season?
LOL - BYU is "arrogant" because they want to win a NC just like every
other school in the country.
@ Y>UWho's playing UCONN, Virginia, Nevada, Middle
Tennessee St., UNLV, Cal, and Savanna St.?Glass house my friend....
2ferFinish with a winning record and a bowl game, then you can talk.
There's nothing special about getting curb stomped by a strong schedule.
2ferMiddle Tennessee St. and UNLV are bowl bound; that's more
than can be said of the Utes.
Someone clue me in. Why isn't Sark coaching his Washington team in this
bowl game, whether or not he has been hired to coach USC NEXT YEAR? It seems
like desertion at the worst possible time for a coach and team. It makes no
sense. So that means an interim coach for the game and then a new coach next
year? What confusion? It doesn't make sense to me and I don't think
it should be allowed. Sark took them to the bowl, why can't he coach them
in that bowl game? The season isn't over officially is it? I thought the
bowl game was still in THIS season, because they count it in THIS season's
win column. That does leave the game outcome open for too many excuses if BYU