@ RolandYou said, "President Eisenhower once said that foreign
aid is the cheapest way for us to influence events in foreign countries."I raise the question of whether it is in short term and long interest to
try and influence events in foreign countries via foreign aid? It is time to
isolate ourselves from the pockets of the world that trouble us. The radical
Islamists will leave us alone if we stop putting our nose into other
people's business. Let Israel negotiate her own peace with the Muslims. It
is not our job to police the world.
Based on the letter and some of the comments, it seems to me that to even have
this discussion, we need a common understanding of how much foreign aid is
spent, what forn it takes (military? humanitarian?), and where the money is sent
and why. To make blanket statements is futile in trying to assert a
cost/benefit analysis. As a result, the letter is little more than
additional evidence that the 'muscular' foreign policy of the
neo-conservative movement after 9/11 has faded, and traditional conservative
isolationism is re-emerging.
wz, you again overstate. They moved not for taxes but for cheap labor.
That's fine but to state it was for survival is a line that's a flat
out lie. Unions are not the cause of their demise and you know it. Even if
unions needed to come back a step you now have a major drain in the economy
because big business and the 1% are paying little to the operation of the
nation. The pendulum swung the other way and until it swings back there will be
no real recovery. It's vitually all on the back of middle America to the
tune of little improvement in wages over 30 years and watching the middle class
fade into serfdom.
Buying love and friendship? Au contraire! Foreign aid is blood money. US Foreign
policy is based on what Noam Chomsky has named the "Mafia principle."
It's all about power, control, and obligation. Defiance cannot be
tolerated. If the dictators (often put in place by the CIA) become defiant
and/or no longer serve US purposes, they are deposed. This has been the strategy
since government officials first formulated plans for US global domination in
the early 1940s.
@Roland Kayser:"Some actual facts: Less than 1% of our budget goes to
foreign aid."Yes, and much of the aid is borrowed money. If
foreign countries need money they can go to China and borrow it. It's
plain stupidity to borrow money and turn around and give it as aid to another
country."By far the largest recipient of our aid is
Israel."We give it to our friend and ally, Israel, and also to
Israel's enemy. Go figure.@ugottabkidn:"The amount
of what we traditionally consider foreign aid is a pittance compared to the
subsidies we have given to corporations to stash their cash."Wis
up, ugatta... The so-called 'tax loopholes' are eventually passed to
the consumer in the form of lower prices for corporate produced goods and
services that we all purchase. "I wonder if Mr Bender considers
the tax loop holes we gave them to move jobs overseas 'foreign
aid?'"Jobs are moved overseas primarily for business
survival. American corporations have foreign competitors they must try to
beat... which is difficult in the US with American (union) labor sky high.
The question is not one of humanity, it is of efficacy. Waste and graft, common
as they are, should not be ignored as the cost of doing business. Better
oversight for the greater good and not discontinuation of foreign aid should be
the goal. Generically throwing money at a problem may assuage America's
conscience, but it is seldom maximally effective.
Roland Keyser"Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush
Jr. all spent as much on foreign aid as any of your "left-wing"
boogeymen"And they are no better than those on the other side of
this fraudulent political aisle are. People can call me a right winger all they
want. But I have never registered as a republican or democrat. I have more in
common with anarchists than I do with republicans or democrats.
10CC"A related questions might be - how did we get to the point
where so many people are stuck in 1776 thinking? Some fundamental assumptions
have changed since then, folks."I would think in 1776 than in
Maoist China, Soviet Russia, or Nazi Germany. Most people are so brainwashed
that they can't even see the race baiting, divisive, fake unifiying,
propaganda right in front of their faces. All the mass media does is race bate.
they talk like they are for civil rights but it's a lie. They just want it
reversed so they can have their totalitarian take over. If we had civil rights
in this country, there would be no TSA, no government spying, no word police, no
gun confiscation against 100% law abiding citizens.
To John Charity Spring: Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.
all spent as much on foreign aid as any of your "left-wing" boogeymen.
Other than the aid to Israel, foreign aid is used to purchase favorable business
conditions for American business. A list of specific forms of
foreign aid might start with military installations of American soldiers.
Americans spend more money at higher prices than any other set of consumers in
the world. Next is military equipment usually for the maintenance
of the current government in power. It is important to note that every dollar
of military aid, other than the spending of soldiers, ends up in the pocket of
American businessmen back in the USA. Some foreign aid may
actually reach the people, but from the attitude of the general population of
that nation we don’t think it amounts to much. As long as
business rules our government we can expect that every action of government will
be business based.
Here are some realities the Founding Fathers never had to deal with: WWII,
nuclear weapons, 9-11.As we learned the hard way after 9-11,
we'd better at least know what's going on, and have ways to counteract
potentially lethal adversaries, or at least keep them contained.Or,
to use a 2nd Amendment analogy, how do things change if every house in the
neighborhood has nuclear tipped stinger missiles? It's no longer about
just keeping burglars out of your house. It's about protecting your house
from complete destruction, from afar.A related questions might be -
how did we get to the point where so many people are stuck in 1776 thinking?
Some fundamental assumptions have changed since then, folks.
Our dependence on oil imports puts far more in the pockets of foreign tyrants
than so called aid does.
Foreign aid makes perfect sense to politicians in Washington. They're not
after love or even friendship. They're creating dependency. It's all
about control. It's about making the world safe for corporations that own
our politicians. Now do you get it?
Russell is completely correct here. He should be commended for pointing out the
fallacy of the left-wing foreign aid program.George Washington
himself stated that America should avoid all foreign entanglements unless
national security is directly impacted. Washington knew that any attempt to
impose democracy on unwilling nations would inevitably end in disaster. For decades, America has attempted to pay Egypt and Pakistan to become
peaceful democracies. This has resulted in the wasting of billions upon
billions of dollars, which were only used to build up militarists who massacred
their own people.It is time for the left to recognize that foreign
aid is an abomination. George Washington would roll over in his grave if he
knew what the left-wing administration was up to.
This reads like a typical Russell Bender letter. No substance, no facts, no
proof, no citations, no references, just complaining. I like his
anti-climate-science rants better; at least those letters are humorous. Also, I'm sooooo happy Mitt Romney didn't fool too many people
or we'd be on the brink of another Trillion Dollar Republican foray into
Nation Building and Freedom Spreadin' Bush/Cheney style.
The amount of what we traditionally consider foreign aid is a pittance compared
to the subsidies we have given to corporations to stash their cash. I wonder if
Mr Bender considers the tax loop holes we gave them to move jobs overseas
"foreign aid"? The average Joe making $50K donates about 4 grand a year
to help the Exxons, GE's etc.
Some actual facts: Less than 1% of our budget goes to foreign aid.By far
the largest recipient of our aid is Israel. President Eisenhower once said
that foreign aid is the cheapest way for us to influence events in foreign
countries. It's certainly far cheaper than sending in the troops.
At one time Germany and Japan were our sworn enemies. I suppose Mr. Bender
would have objected to giving foreign aid to help rebuild those countries after
WWII.Merry Christmas, Mr. Scrooge.