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Published: Thursday, Dec. 5 2013 10:35 p.m. MST

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sammyg
Springville, UT

Nothing like an article to state how mediocre the Cougars are to inspire the comments.

I believe things are going great for BYU. Though there have been some disappointments, no one likes losing close games, and from the arm chair QB position it is frustrating to see silly mistakes, but all in all it has been an entertaining foray into independence.

Football is unpredictable despite the business of measuring every aspect of performance and predicting outcomes. No one said BYU would instantly be successful in independence but I'm liking the trends.

BYU has been fairly predictable and the same goes for our rival. For those that want to say an 8-4 season is disappointing and wallow in the losses and what could have been I have but one thing to say...

It's a lot worse 50 miles up the road and their trend has not inspired a lot of positives.

Other institutions may have brief moments of athletic grandeur, and I am happy for them, but when it comes to overall recognition... BYU athletics, hand down, is the state's crown jewel.

Go Cougars!

gary2635
Placentia, CA

Any author that pretends to speak for BYU fans loses all credibility. He can only speak for himself.

BYU9293
Clinton, UT

Good commentary and objective. I think it is right on. In fact, Bronco has even said that he thinks for byu to win a national championship they would have to go undefeated 2 consecutive seasons. BYU is a good team, but not great and has not had a great team in quite awhile. But I still love them.

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

With just a slight improvement in the offense, BYU would have beaten Virginia, Utah and Wisconsin and/or Notre Dame.

Looking forward to Anae getting more aggressive on 1st down and in the blue zone.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

"That's the single-biggest problem of being an independent. One loss spells apathy for the rest of the season when there's no conference title to win. "

Spoken like an ankle biter.

Or like an objective sports commentator.

But not like a fan.

I spent good money, rearranged my Thanksgiving weekend and my work schedule, so I could see the game in Reno. I've heard Utah fans talk about how cool it is to have teams like Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, etc come to SLC, and it is cool, but whoever and wherever the Cougars play, the team in the stadium I care about is BYU.

I agree with most of the points of the article. But apathetic?

Never!

nvlawyer
Las Vegas, NV

Couldn't disagree more. BYU would be in the top 25 this year if it had simply beaten Virginia and Utah. Losing to Notre Dame and Wisconsin on the road would have been considered predictable. A win against either of those teams on the road -- especially Wisconsin, would have propelled BYU to the top 20 easily. That is right on the edge of BCS. I think the writer hear overestimates the need for a conference affiliation. A lot of eyeballs have been put on BYU and with the exception of the Virginia game, BYU earned some respect -- even in the losses on the road. We traveled well. We played good defense (mostly). Our QB got a lot of exposure nationally as a sophomore. This wasn't the year. Next year, however, with a win at Texas, BYU could be looking at an undefeated year and will get all the attention it could ever imagine.

caleb in new york
Glen Cove, NY

It looks like next years schedule will be rated much lower than 32nd in the country. UConn, Cal, and Virginia were all 1 or 2 win teams in 2013. Goes to show that scheduling is difficult - its tough to know years in advance who will be quality opponents. BYU could go undefeated next year and easily be kept out of the 4 team playoff.

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

Any "fan" who becomes apathetic after the first loss of the season isn't a true fan.

The chances of even the most elite teams being able to play for a national championship are minuscule, but that doesn't mean true fans become apathetic as soon as their team is realistically eliminated from the national championship race.

There are still plenty of other worthy achievements that can still be attained, such as Top 25 finishes, 10+ win seasons, and bowl wins, even after the first loss of the season.

caleb in new york
Glen Cove, NY

Even if BYU were playing against Fresno St. this week, I would still prefer this year's independent schedule over being in the MWC. Next year might be a different story, however, because BYU's 2014 independent schedule looks significantly weaker.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

caleb in new york

"BYU could go undefeated next year and easily be kept out of the 4 team playoff."

True, but with 5 major conferences, plus Notre Dame, and only 4 playoff spots available, it's an absolute certainty that at least one major conference champion will be left on the outside looking in at the playoffs, even if they go undefeated.

Who would the selection committee pick if the choices for the final playoff spot were a one-loss Alabama or an undefeated Arizona State?

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

As long as Anae is calling the plays, as long as we have to recruit nearly all LDS kids, as long as winning is number 5, we will look at 8 win seasons as normal. I like independence better than conference play, but BYU will always be playing tougher teams 2 away and 1 at home. It is going to be tough to win. I projected this year as 8 wins. I did not expect to beat Texas, but I certainly thought we could beat Utah. I will never live to see one unbeaten season let alone two. I think we have to accept things the way they are and not get discouraged. If we can't recruit offensive linemen, we have no hope of landing talent in the skill positions. We seem to believe that running makes a quarterback so the era of landing top quarterback prospects is over. Creative offense is history. I'll keep my tickets one more year.

caleb in new york
Glen Cove, NY

Cordon - so you're arguing for an expansion of the 4-team playoff? I'm perfectly happy with a 4 team playoff. I like how college football reserves a lot of excitement for the regular season. Under the scenario you stated, based on this year's schedules easily an undefeated Arizona St. would be chosen because they played a more difficult schedule than Alabama did.

Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

"Good but not Great" is pretty accurate.

ekute
Layton, UT

This was the year and byu did what it could and proved that it is what it is, but it sounds like the "fans" are ok with it. Sammy's comment sums it up pretty good.

Sandyclaws
Salt Lake City, UT

Not the season I was hoping for, but it could have been a lot worse. Just ask the tun.

I am glad we have a coach who has a national championship as the ultimate goal. Why would anyone want a coach who didn't aspire to that. We all know it won't happen next year, even if we go undefeated. But the year after...............?

No matter what happens, I will always be a Cougar fan.

GO GOUGS!

oldcougfan
North Ogden, UT

I would much more prefer independence over being in a substandard conference like the MWC. It is boring to be playing the same old lousy schools every year. I like the fact that we can go to different parts of the country and play a lot of different schools. I think BYU needs to do an affiliation with a different conference every 2 years for about 5 games likes Notre Dame does for the games later in the year.

Mr. Plate
Lindon, UT

@ekute - yeah, I'm ok with BYU, and even better years will really give me a thrill as a fan. It's better to understand that football is really just a game, and to know who you are, and have fun and enjoyment with your team, even if they're good but not great, and have hope for even better things to come, than to obsess about greatness and have an average team ruin your life year after year.

See It
SPRINGVILLE, UT

I think until we get someone who is less than predictable in his play calling, these are the types of seasons we will continually see. When we are inside the 20 at Wisconsin 4 times, and can't score a touchdown, something is wrong. We need the horses on the line and a coach that really knows what they are doing. Not some offensive line coach that thinks they an OC. We also need to scrap this "fast and furious" offense and get back to passing the ball in the spread. The "read option" is too easy to defend, and it really didn't work when the other team has superior atheletes. It didn't when it counted, did it?

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Real Cougar fans run on optimism, not pessimism and skepticizm. Well maybe a few, but I digress..

This is why commentators like ekute will say, "it sounds like the "fans" are ok with it."

It's a little more complex than that. Yes, we hope for more, we dream of more, some of us even pray for more, and we are NOT okay with losing, but we ARE okay with our Cougars, win or lose.

Now, back to the koolaid, or optimism. Next year's schedule is not going to impress anyone, but the flip side of that is, get past Texas and we COULD well go undefeated. Will it get us into the play-offs? No. But will it set us up for 2015? Yes, it should.

And with a better schedule, and a senior Taysom and Jamaal, this fan will be right back at the punch bowl, grinning blue from ear to ear. And yes, I am okay with that!

Bleed Crimson
Sandy, Utah

"Long-term success in independence requires BYU football to 'Rise Up"

Well the Cougies haven't so far! The last 3 years they underachieved. Their fanbase seems to be satisfied with the results and just appearing in a 3rd tier bowl game.

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