Poyman, what you're saying it essentially correct . . but it only makes his
shot selection all the more frustrating. When you know a guy can be really,
really good but he has one glaring, fatal flaw that seems easy to correct,
it's frustrating beyond belief. I mean, how hard is it to decide not to
take awful, nearly unmakeable shots 4-5 times a game? It doesn't require
extra skill, strength, height, or muscle. Just don't jack up a loooong
off-balance three early in the shot clock. Just don't try an awkward
running bank shot with your off hand with a center in your face.Yes,
the Y is good, but they are a few good possessions per game away from being
potentially top ten. Subtract those lousy shots and substitute makeable ones,
and you probably add a few PPG. There's no coherent argument that can be
made that this would be a bad thing.
A lot of people came to the game but arrived late due to the weather. I think
the attendance was announced as 16,000. How often do the Utes get that many to a
BBall game even with perfect weather?
ionAlumCottonwood Heights, UTLooks like there were a lot of empty
seats in the building... Couldn't be! There has to be an explanation! Only
up on the hill are there ever empty seats at a game! I think having a big
snowstorm might have had a lot to do with the attendance,a lot of people could
not get to the game.
BYU has a pretty good team this year and they are exciting to watch when they
win. They are terrible at the free throw line, so I don't expect much in
the NCAA tournament. Carlino still hasn't learned to play within himself
and that will also lose key games. If those two things could get fixed, they
can be among the best in the country. I wish them well.
Now that we get a two-year break from the Utes in football, and in hoops we have
every reason to expect the Ute fans won't be coming on to argue the
supposed superiority of their basketball team relative to the Cougars, perhaps
that will help reduce the nonsense between fan bases. One can hope. I admit I love seeing BYU haters get it dished back to them as much as the
next guy. But we all know who will be expected to "turn the other
cheek" first if things are to improve. So I am willing to go for
the rest of the non-conference season not red-baiting. Any Ute fans publicly
willing to take that invite?
Regarding Carlino,If keeps playing out of control Bartley will replace him
in the starting lineup, or Halford. Both are very good and make better
decisions. Car lino hasn't cost any loses yet but if he keeps it up it
will hurt the team.
I have to say that Coach Rose has done a great job of putting together a great
basketball program at BYU. The pass the ball around until you get a layup days
are long gone. BYU is so much fun to watch. The best part is that this
isnt' going to be a one season deal. The players in the wings are going to
keep the team loaded for several years to come.
Wow slopj30... You are pretty tough on a guy who's probably the biggest
reason that we are even able to run an up-tempo and transition oriented
offense... When Carlino is not on the floor the game slows down
considerably... When you hit four or five threes in a row (like he did against
Iowa State) to put BYU up by 12 or 14 after being down a few, yet still only
hitting 30% through 9 games, I would call that "streaky"... I thought that Carlino had a very good game last night... It wasn't about
scoring points for himself (he was off and he knew it)it was about putting other
players in a position to score... And he also played some very good defense...
So while it'a good to have a PG that can score, it's also very nice to
have one that can set the tempo of a game and assist others in carrying the
scoring load... I haven't looked at the stats, but I believe
that Carlino leads the team in both Assists and Steals and is probably the #2
scorer on a very good team playing the 4th toughest schedule in the country.
BYU has a good team this year and it is fun to watch. Both games against ranked
teams so far were close and could have just as easily been wins. For the Ute
fans and pessimistic BYU fans who say BYU won't make the NCAA tournament
this year, where is your evidence that they won't? I think they will be a
shoe in, whether they win the WCC tournament or not. The WCC is a 2 or 3 bid
league every year and BYU is at least the 2nd best in the WCC this year, and
possibly even better than Gonzaga. That waits to be seen. Go Cougars!
Balan:Carlino’s percentages over the last 2+ years:2011-12: .401 FG%, .331 3P%, .759 FT%2012-13: .408 FG%, .335 3P%, .718
FT%2013-14: .384 FG%, .298 3P%, .675 FT%I fail to see how this
qualifies as “improving,” especially since he’s a volume
shooter. Yes, he’s rebounding better, but that’s a secondary concern
for a PG. Assists and steals are up a tick, but so are turnovers. To describe
his poor shot selection as “occasional” and the results as
“streaky” is remarkably charitable. Shooting five threes a game at a
clip just over 30% isn’t “streaky,” it’s
“lousy.”What frustrates me is the failure to correct
obvious flaws. When Karl Malone entered the NBA, he was a brutal free-throw
shooter and it hurt his team immensely. What did he do? Worked on it until a
weakness became a strength. Carlino has to know that his poor shots hurt the
team, yet he continues to force them up despite poor results. I just don’t
get that kind of approach and lack of self-awareness.
UteNationAlum - Don't open a can of worms. Oh wait, you just
did. The difference is, the fans that were in the Marriott Center last night
would have made the HC look like a sell out crowd. lol.
A win is a win; U Mass will be a HUGE test.
UteNationAlumI heard that there was a massive snow storm in Utah, so
13,908 fans is pretty good for a non-conference Tuesday night game - that's
practically a full house in the Huntsman Center.I remember a game
played in the HC on the night of a big snow storm last year, and the HC was
practically empty for a conference game.
Carlino always follows a brilliant play with one or two bone-headed plays. He is
gifted...he has strength, hops, skills, speed...all of it...but for some reason
(selfishness? Low B-ball IQ), you can always bet on an equal combination if Wow!
and For crying out loud!
Tators,My apologies. Comments that the utes are in a prestigious
conference really are sarcastic, if not down right hilarious. However, sometimes
it's hard to discriminate among my fellow U grads when they tout the utes.
@ Mark321 and 4601:Apparently, you're not able to tell that
Cletus from Coalville is just a spoof which uses uneducated sarcasm as a reverse
dig toward the Utes. I've always thought that seemed obvious. His comments
come regularly, are often along the same lines, and usually elicit smiles from
most BYU fans. There's a regular commenter from the Utes that does
something similar, but instead is directed toward BYU fans. Both appear to be
only in fun sarcasm.
Memo: Cletus is telling us a tongue in cheek joke. Let's go
BYU!. Always and forever.
Sorry to disagree with some out there but I am a big Carlino fan. In my opinion
he has improved his play tremendously over the past couple of years. He is a
very, very good rebounding guard; he can break down a defense with his
penetration; his engine never stops - he is a huge reason why BYU is so good up
and down the court; he continues to get others involved with his passing,
assists, etc.; and he simply plays hard. His ONLY downside is that occasionally
he takes some bad shots and is a little bit streaky with his shooting - but who
isn't?I for one am glad that he is a Cougar!
@UteNationAlum"Looks like there were a lot of empty seats in the
building... Couldn't be! There has to be an explanation!"Uh, if you were able to notice the empty seats, how did you happen to miss the
snowfall, or the many references to the difficulty that even the N-Tex team had
in getting to the arena? Open enrollment schools . . .
Cletus from CoalvilleCoalville, UTYour comment was off topic, this
article was about a BYU win. You claimed the utes were in a prestigious
conference, not that the utes were prestigious. Big difference. Why not trumpet
the moral victory of the utes losing to Boise St., of the not so prestigious
@ Cletus from Coleville"Byu is not in a prestegous conference like us
so they are not prestegous like us and that means we will win you when we
play."Really?? Just like the Utes beat BYU the last 7 times,
right? I understand having your team's back but when you come down to earth
you will realize that BYU is better than the Utes in all phases of the game.
I'm not making any guarantees like some other Ute users do, that's why
you play the game, but it is very probable that you guys will lose on December
This game followed what has become a pattern--production when the tempo is
pushed and stagnation and bad shots when forced to play in the half court.The good news is there's clearly a desire to keep the tempo up and
run. The challenge will be that the key to being able to run is taking care of
the defensive boards and BYU's better opponents have had too much success
on the offensive boards. Other than Mika, the Cougars are a little thin in the
North Texas was a nice breather for the Cougars to get ready for #21 UMass this
Saturday.Observations: Mika is a stud and will be one of
the top centers in the NCAA by the time he finishes his college career.Carlino is a very good point guard, who could be a great point guard, if he
learns not to force shots 1 on 3.Overall, this BYU team is loaded
with talent, but is still learning how to play as a team to take full advantage
of that talent.Free throw shooting has to improve dramatically if
BYU is going to make some noise in the NCAAs.
@ ekute:Classy comment from an avid Ute fan. Thanks for being
objective and complimentary. Fans from both sides could learn from your
example. @ mountainflying:You lost your credibility by
saying BYU has been "dominated" by ranked teams. The 2 losses this
season to ranked teams literally went to the wire and could've been won by
BYU with something as simple as better free-throw shooting... their close-game
nemesis so far this year. BYU was leading for 80% of the one at home
before losing in the last 2 minutes. Only an unobjective anti-BYU person could
call either of those games dominating losses. Both were highly competitive and
entertaining... as were the Stanford at Stanford game and the USU game in
SLC.The uMass game will be telling.
It was a symphony in motion. Considering the athleticism of NT the bigs just
stuck in there and battled.
Watching Utah and BSU play, it gave me an appreciation for how good Carlino is.
Sure, he pushes too hard sometimes but he is a very good point guard. Handles
the ball well, is strong, good rebounder. BYU also has a deep bench except for
the big guys. Could be a special year.
I kind of agree with SlopJ30, Carlino is a blessing and curse all in one. He
can play great than play very poorly and it does come down to decision making.
He takes too many very poor shots, shots he could get at anytime in the shot
clock and he takes them 5 seconds in rather than waiting. BYU looked good and
recovered from a slow start, they looked a little lethargic in the first half
and then came on. I hope they can beat Umass this weekend. The difference
between his year and last is that byu is being extremely competitive against
ranked teams and we were not that last year. Hope the team will learn and begin
to win those games. ultimately, if they don't get some wins against the
ranked teams, playing them and losing them won't mean much to the selection
committee, although it can still help the team to get better.
Looks like there were a lot of empty seats in the building... Couldn't be!
There has to be an explanation! Only up on the hill are there ever empty seats
at a game!
I see the Cougars turning into a more seasoned and confident team. After Wichita
State I said they wouldn't make into the NCAA"s. I'm leaning the
other way now. You guys have good coach down there. Gonzaga is not a shoe-in for
the conference champion. Good Luck.
Polls are flawed like it has always been. We haven't got any votes yet and
if we did beat UMass this Saturday we might get just one vote from local media.
That what I have noticed in past. UMass was showing #1 in RPI yesterday while we
were at #9. It will be an interesting hard fought game for sure. Man, I thought
the game was going to be tonight but a win was a win.
BYU will be an exciting team that beats up on bad and mediocre teams, but they
won't be able to beat true elite teams more than occasionally. Why? Matt
Carlino. Shame, because he's clearly talented and competitive. If he had
just half the hoops IQ of John Stockton or Chris Paul I would be excited for a
long tourney run. Unfortunately his decision-making chip is fried beyond
recognition. How many times can you almost physically see him decide "OK . .
TIME FOR ME TO SHOOT!" befor he dribbles into two bigs and forces up some
slop or launches a 25-footer before evaluating the defense or attempting to run
a play?Efficient PG play is a hallmark of most truly special teams.
Carlino is a head case whose play will continue to careen from spectacular to
catastrophic, sometimes both within the same minute. I have to wonder what goes
on in Coach Rose's mind after each of Matt's bizarre decisions?
Thomas Jefferson about your comment, BYU will likely have 4 losses before they
start the league schedule. They just don't beat ranked teams and they have
away games against UMass and Oregon coming up.
Impressive win for the Cougars! But please...let's stop the childish and
arrogant put down of the Utes! It's precisely comments like that that
makes it's extremely painful to deal with when they beat us. Nothing makes
a team fight harder than when ridiculed and insulted, whether by an opposing
team member or an arrogant fan. So please, tone it down and show some restraint
and respect! Any opponent can beat any team at any given time whether in
football, basketball, or whatever!Go Cougars! Good luck to the Utes
too until we play each other!
Byu is not in a prestegous conference like us so they are not prestegous like us
and that means we will win you when we play.Go Utes!
Cougars are looking good. If the NCAA tournament takes three teams this year
from the West Coast Conference, BYU will have a chance to make it in again.
Nice win Cougs. Keep it rolling all the way to RES and roll over the utes.
They have shown their true colors tonight now that they had to finally play a
Div. I team.. BYU is a very dangerous team and will cause havoc for
a lot of teams that can't run for a full 40 minutes. I think the utes are
in serious trouble when the Cougs come to town. Utah might want to forfeit the
game. BYU has too many weapons this year and have 7 players who can score in
double figures on any night.
Was a fun game to watch as it was close in the first half, but in the 2nd it
seemed like North Texas got worse at shooting and clearly was no where near as
aggressive as BYU, even though they were billed as a fast transition team like
BYU. I hope this was a down game for BYU and they will play better
against UMass, they really need a win against a top 25 team and UMass will be a
good chance for BYU to get one. It will be fun to watch as some comments
I've seen say UMass plays even faster than BYU. In a post game interview
Rose said UMass was "as fast or faster" than BYU.Go Cougars!
Let's not get carried away here. BYU is has won only once in their last 12
tried against ranked teams. UMASS will dominate them just like most ranked teams
The UMass game is a big one if the Cougars want to get into the rankings. UMass
is ranked in both polls and is playing very well. BYU has to run, that is their
game, go do it.
Collinsworth plays basketball in a manner that is making this team special.
His ability to play basketball at point or at a guard position with strength,
unselfishness and speed, size and determination remind me of another special
player, Magic Johnson. That was his brand of basketball and he made everyone
succeed around him. As much as I think Marty's son is special, Kyle is
special as well. Mica is as skilled at center that I have seen in
recent history here at BYU for a freshman. Davies was better defensively, but
Davies did not develop his offense till his junior year. This team
could beat Gonzaga. Could do some damage in the Tourney(not NIT).I
give some credit to Carlino on an off night for helping his team to win with
rebounds and assists. He got a double double. That is commendable.
Quality basketball coming out of Provo. Great way to spend a Tuesday night. Good
win for the Cougars!
Nice, dominant win. Man do those guys play fast sometimes. N. Texas must be
the sick green after seeing BYU run all over the place!
Talking about throw downs, don't forget Collinsworth. He also had a few.
I don't remember ever seeing a BYU team that had so many guys capable of
throwing it down.
The Cougs stomped a big and athletic N-Tex team with rebounding and assists.
Great, confident attack on offense, and tremendous hustle on D. Once again:
Thank goodness for BYUtv!
Cougs started slow, but played another outstanding game the final 10 minutes.
Bartley's jam was the highlight of the game, even though Mika had a few
throw downs of his own. It's great to see Halford hitting.Looking forward to the next game against UMass. A win could bring a Top 25
sighting for the Cougs. Love watching the team play - this is an exciting brand