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Published: Monday, Dec. 2 2013 11:55 p.m. MST

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pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

Scott

If you actually read Spokane Ute's post you would realize he didn't once use "prepare" in his post. He simply stated that the conference schedule that Utah faces this year will test the Utes. He is absolutely correct in this statement as the pac-12 is the 3rd rated conference. Hopefully, it will prepare Utah for post season play this year. And yes, that was a "prepare" reference.

PAC man
Anaheim, CA

Spokane Ute

"Conference play will prepare them for the conference tournament, which will prepare them for post season."

What post season? With the weakest OOC in the country, the Utes don't stand a chance of getting an at large bid to the NCAA, so that basically means the Utes will have to beat Arizona to win the PAC's auto-bid to the Big Dance, like that's ever going to happen.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Duckhunter

Welcome back Duck. You disappear so easily.

"In fact BYU has one of the hardest pre season schedules in the country."

Of course it is, Duck. Everything byu is the toughest, biggest, mostest, bestest, in the whole wide universe. And...that's exactly what you people said before football season started and look what it turned into.

So, Duck here's a look at byu's preseason schedule: Mount St. Mary's, Colorado Mesa, North Texas, Prarie View. Are you proud of those contests? The others aren't bad...even respectable and some very good. Which is exactly why I said "apart from a couple of obvious good teams..." Try reading first, then respond.

Now, byu's rock'n conference schedule consists of...wait for it...Pacific, Portland, Santa Clara, Pepperdine, and the admirable list goes on. So...are you proud of those contests, too? Are your cougs adequately challenged by those contests? Do you enjoy watching your cougs battle for supremacy in gymnasiums?

Tell this board how you feel about your cougs, Duck.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

@PAC MAN

All of the following schools have schedules ranked 300 or higher: Notre Dame, Georgia, Nebraska, Cincinatti, Utah and Louisville. So none of them have a chance for post season either? What a un-educated, yet typical comment. Swing and a miss. Utah's 5 games into the season; it's a long way to March.

Crisco B
Salt Lake City, UT

The new theme is "Home for the Holidays." No bowl game, and no away games. A nice holiday at home.

pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

Pacman

You and Scott obviously have the same problem, you don't actually read or comprehend what Spokane Ute is saying.

Spokane didn't say that Utah would make the NCAA, he said it would prepare them for the post season, which would also include the NIT and CBI either of which could be attainable goals with this team.

Carnak
Salt Lake City, UT

MyPerspective 1
Duck (back from Tulsa) 0

talkinsports
Gilbert, AZ

Lots of delusional Utes out there.

Current RPI

#9 BYU - 2 wins 26-50; 1 win 51-100
#160 Utah - 0 wins 1-150

Utah fans are only fooling themselves if they think they'll even get a sniff from the selection committee with a #160 RPI.

Beating Evergreen State may pad the win total, but it's meaningless as far as the NCAA tournament is concerned.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

@PocyUte

Thanks for trying to help our friends from down south comprehend. I think an arguement, vs a rational conversation, is more their goal though. Like I said, sure I would like to see the Utes play a few more tough road games early. However, they will be tested often and late in the PAC 12 conference and conference tournament. Conference play will determine the Utes post season, certainly not games played in November & December. A win at BSU tonight would be great! Have a good one, take care and Rock On Guy!

GO UTES!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@noperspective

I will tell you this, I really enjoy how unhinged I have made you on these boards, how every post you make towards me is "frantic and emotional" not to mention defensive. LOL!

By the way, every single game a team plays in pre-season doesn't have to be against a top 25 team to make their preseason schedule one of the toughest in the nation, all it has to have is more tough teams on it than most everyone elses. You see no one schedules nothing but top 25 teams, but teams that actually want to see what quality of team they are schedule enough good teams, at home and on the road, to find out. They schedule enough road games to make that challenging, and enough high quality teams to make that challenging.

That is what BYU has done, BYU's current SOS is #6, yes that is right #6, utah's is currently #348 out of 351.

But of course I understand utah "fan" "logic". utah's football team's SOS was legit because the voters said so but BYU's basketball teams is not because utah "fans" like noperspective say so. LOL!

Gone fishin
PAC Country, WA

Perspective,
Who said I was a BYU fan. I just happen to live in the middle of PAC Country in case you didn't notice. I just have a dislike for the arrogant Utah fans who can't see through their crimson colored glasses. I just think that the utes are a low level team in an average conference that beat up each other and call themselves a conference of champions. Well at least most of the teams beat up on each other. Some teams just get beat up on. We won't mention names here but they reside at the bottom of the conference in both major sports programs.

UoU 1991
Park City, UT

pocyUte

The NIT and CBI are what teams settle for when they don't achieve their primary goal of playing in the Big Dance. It's embarrassing that a once proud program like Utah would set a goal of playing in anything less than the NCAA tournament.

It's no wonder that the Huntsman Center has become a vast sea of empty red chairs. Who wants to watch a team who's basically thrown in the towel on playing in the NCAA tournament before the first game of the season is played.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@spokaneute

We get what you are saying, we just don't buy it. utah is playing almost the worst pre season schedule in the entire country, it is just plain awful, abysmal, frankly laughable. I understand why they are doing it, there are multiple reasons.

The first is because they have been awful and they are scheduling games against even worse teams so they can get some wins. krystkowiak does not want to continue to have his lifetime record spiral into oblivion so he is scheduling himself some "wins" so that when his record is looked at people will be impressed with it. Most aren't going to go back and check every opponent he ever coached against, he is thinking of his legacy no doubt. It is the same for the school and the team, they don't want to continue to add more losses than wins to their overall lifetime record.

It is actually in large part a selfish thing for him and the school.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

The second thing is to try to get the team to gain a winning mindset. I understand this, winning breeds confidence regardless of who you beat, it is a big deal to have the mental edge of a winner. Now this is what he hopes occurs but unfortunately it takes more than just beating patsies to gain real confidence, you have to beat some actual good teams along the way as well and utah is playing exactly 1 really good team in the entire preseason, BYU.

Just because the conference schedule might be tough it doesn't make it enough. utah "fans" have been telling us all football season that only playing half of your schedule against good teams is "pathetic", "pansy", "lightweight", etc so please tell us why that is not the case when it is utah's basketball schedule.

You can hypocritically try to defend their schedule all you want but no one, and I mean no one, buys it other than other sycophantic utah "fans". And no their conference schedule will not prepare them for post season play as they will not be participating in any post season play.

TroyTown
Anaheim, CA

Spokane Ute

Of the six teams you cited as examples - Notre Dame, Georgia, Nebraska, Cincinnati, Utah and Louisville - only two, Notre Dame and Louisville, are currently projected by Jerry Palm to make the tournament.

In other words, using your sample, a team with a current SOS of 300+, only has a 1 in 3 chance of making the tournament, with Utah being one of the teams projected to be on the outside looking in come Selection Sunday.

It's still early, but if you're a fan of a program that hasn't won an NCAA tournament game in almost a decade, it's not looking good.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

@ Talkinsports

I didn't know the selection comitee was meeting tonight? When did they change the process to use SOS based as of December 3? You must have some keen in-sight that the rest of us aren't privy to.

pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

Spokane

You are correct. Everyone who has responded to you is only looking to stir up trouble.

'91
While I agree with you, the NIT and CBI are stepping stones. This team is young, and needs experience, and considering the dumpster fire that the program was when coach K got here, I think he's making some serious progress.

I do think this team has the potential to surprise a lot of teams, but as Spokane says, it's the conference play that will determine the post season, certainly not the OOC schedule.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Expect byu fans to go into hiding in a few hours after Utah gets as good of a win as they have all season after bragging about how feet their schedule is

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Duckhunter

"I will tell you this, I really enjoy how unhinged I have made you on these boards, how every post you make towards me is "frantic and emotional" not to mention defensive. LOL!"

If what you say is true, why have you chosen to not answer my question. In fact, this is the 2nd article this week (and it's only Tuesday) where you have walked away with your tail between your legs. You will recall that I previously asked you to us all what you think of your cougs utter failure to earn a spot in a BCS game (the BCS era is now over). Just as you did above, you walked away from the question and never came back.

I'm going to ask you again, Duck...are your cougs adequately challenged by the contests in their conference? Do you enjoy watching your cougs battle for supremacy in gymnasiums?

This time, grow a spine, stand tall, and answer the question. Don't tell us what Holmoe wants you to say, tell us what think about byu's formidable conference schedule.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@noperspective

By the way BYU will be playing their third ranked team in UMass coming up. Other than BYU who that is considered a probable NCAA tournament team is utah playing this month?

@pocy

Sorry but SOS pre season will factor into utah's hopes of post season play at minimum an equal amount as conference play. Unfortunately utah will get zero credit for their OOC SOS as they play only one good team. They get no credit at all for 10 wins against teams ranked in the 200's and 300's, and the 5-6 conference wins they might get are not going to get them into anything.

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