CSD:That must be because the DNews Sports page is your only window to the
Well, BYUAlum, Mike Holmgren (though not a player at BYU), Brian Billick and Tom
Holmoe immediately come to mind.
John, I was pointing out your supporting comment was spectacularly incorrect.
"The argument 'My school has more NFL players/coaches in it'
sounds like when children say 'Oh yeah, well my dad would win an arm
wrestling match with your dad.'"CSD:Perhaps if
you'd read the erroneous comment I was responding to, you'd know it
was a y "fan" who was attempting to make the argument you decry. I was
simply pointing out his supporting facts were spectacularly incorrect.
JohnInSLC"Even casual NFL fans know that Mike McCoy, the San
Diego Charger head coach, was Utah's QB in 1994..."I'm
a casual NFL fan and I didn't know that Mike McCoy was Utah's QB. I
don't care that Mike McCoy was Utah's QB. I don't care that Sark
was BYU's QB. Casual pro fans just watch the pros, they don't spend
all their hours researching coaches college pedigree (BYU, Utah, or any other
college) because WHO CARES? All because a program is able to have someone play
in or coach for a professional team automatically makes that institution better
than another. The argument "My school has more NFL players/coaches in
it" sounds like when children say "Oh yeah, well my dad would win an arm
wrestling match with your dad."
Maybe Orgeron will be invited to be the coach at UW? Bummer he got shafted at
USC but I hope he'll land somewhere where he's needed, loved, and
respected! Life in college sports can be so cutthroat and cruel sometimes.
It's all about money and glory, never a concern about people's
feelings. Here's hoping Sark will fare better at USC. He's a quality
young man and ain't too bad of a coach either! His success will depend on
the staff that surrounds him and how well they recruit. That, at any college,
is the key to success in winning games which is the ultimate goal!
I find a lot of the articles in the D-News stretch the local connection. That
goes for U. alums as much as Y. alums. What I don't get is the huge number
of U. fans that have to jump in on every story about BYU. I thought you people
had "moved on". If you're so bothered about pro BYU articles, go
read the Trib. Seriously. And casual NFL fans don't know squat
about Mike McCoy and Utah beating BYU. Really?Back on topic,
Sarkisian was quarterback for BYU's best ever season. That's the only
year BYU has played on a New Year's Day bowl (pre-BCS) and beat a top
twenty team (#14) with a decent record.
I think Sarkisian will do a fine job at USC and turning Washington around was
impressive. But I must admit I am a bit confused why USC didn't give
Orgeron a chance at a few whole seasons. It seems like he earned it. Good luck
to Sarkisian in his new job and to Orgeron as well. They both deserve the chance
at a better job than their previous job.
"Mister J You really need to take off your Monicle! . . . I know that the u
has zero influence in coaching in the NFL and really no one wants them . . .
many with BYU ties and nothing with u ties."defib:YOU need to find glasses, because NFL fans know that Mike McCoy, the San Diego
Chargers current head coach, was the Ute's QB in 1994. I don't blame
you, a y "fan", for not WANTING to know that, since it was the second
"34-31" game and Utah finished with a Top Ten ranking.
"the u has zero influence in coaching in the NFL . . . many with BYU ties
and nothing with u ties"defib:Even casual NFL fans
know that Mike McCoy, the San Diego Charger head coach, was Utah's QB in
1994, when the Utes beat BYU in the second 34-31 game and finished ranked 10th.
Mister JYou really need to take off your Monicle! Did I say anything about
BYU players in the NFL? I know that the u has zero influence in coaching in the
NFL and really no one wants them, but if u look at the coaching and upper
management, u will see many, many with BYU ties and nothing with u ties. Your knowledge and and view of things really makes people shake their
heads about u fans. u just really don't get it and neither do the rest of
the u fan base. Keep skimming over things just like your teams and you will
never get "deep" into anything.
Sark will have better success at SC than he did at UW because he will be able to
get better talent at SC.
Correction - Johnny Triumph"Amusing that the ESPN story mentions
his JuCo experience but nothing about BYU."Trust a jealous Utah
fan to find "humor" in something so benign as a reporter choosing to
highlight Sarkisian's connections to Southern California."Sarkisian, a native of Torrance, Calif., who played at El Camino Junior
College, was an assistant at USC for seven seasons (2001 to 2003 and 2005 to
2008). He also played baseball at USC before transferring."
Johnny Triumph"Anyone who thinks that rankings truly take into
account strength of schedule don't understand football."Trust a jealous Utah fan to find "humor" in something so benign as a
reporter choosing to highlight Sarkisian's connections to Southern
California."Sarkisian, a native of Torrance, Calif., who played
at El Camino Junior College, was an assistant at USC for seven seasons (2001 to
2003 and 2005 to 2008). He also played baseball at USC before transferring."
These types of stories and headlines drive Ute fans nuts!!In just know they do
and I haven't even read the comments yet:-) They'll bash, spin,
trivialize Sark. The little bro syndrome is alive and well!
Amusing that the ESPN story mentions his JuCo experience but nothing about BYU.
USC fans are not sold on this hire.The consensus is that coach O earned at least
a 1 or 2 year contract.We are frustrated that Pat Haden did not go after a big
name coach. Time will tell.Ogeron is a great recruiter and it is too bad he
didn't stick around. He claims to be a Trojan for life, guess not.As far as
the UW job, Mora from UCLA is a finalist for that job.USC still has a rough
season next year until the sanctions are released. As far as Cletus is
concerned, I assume that you are a UTE fan. You are saying that a Utah team
that is not even going to a bowl game this year, and has not beaten USC since
joining the conference is going to own USC now? Oh brother... USC
will get through this, and we don't turn to BYU for help. Ha Ha. Fight On!
@BYUalumInteresting that when they want a mess cleaned up, they turn
to value-driven players from BYU.------------Like
forcing a player who suffered a concussion to stand in the equipment shed and
then refusing to apologize to the player. Is that value driven coaching from
BYU? But to be fair Leach didn't play at BYU.Also, it was Ron
McBride that cleaned up the mess at Utah then Urban Meyer put it on the national
Oh brother, here we go again WISHING stuff. There is no way we can bring back
Lavell Edward nor they could bring back Bobby Bowden and name a few. Bronco is a
good guy and best fit as a Defense coach. Their has been no talk about Kyle Whit
at the u. So, move on and good Luck Steve Sark at sc. Hope Steve doesn't
get the shaft in few years and watch out with those boosters at LA (well,
Everone wants to be like the byu.
@u25What you say about Sark and Washington is also true about Utah. Utah
has had an influx of talent the past 2-3 years and have done worse. Utah's
current recruiting class is now at around 2.3 stars according to scout.com and
seems to be dropping as more 2 star recruits are committed. Washington had a
losing culture for years and under Sark, has improved in both wins and
recruiting the last several years. Utah, on the other hand is getting worse in
wins and, it appears the recruiting is declining also. Utah is headed in the
opposite direction as UW. Reality is that 2014 is likely to be another bowl-less
year for the Utes and will likely be the last for KW. And I really like Kyle.
This is great news to Utah. USC will always be tough with their talent level but
they hired a coach comparable to Kiffen. Sark under acheived so bad at
washington. He brought in great talent but was never able to put it together.
Only winning 7 games every year. The natives were getting restless in seattle
and his seat was going to be hot going into next seaon.
Dick, you forgot about Keith Uperesa. Played at BYU in the '70s, worked as
a grad asst. at BYU in the '80s, then was hired by USC as the o-line coach
Lots of insecure Y haters commenting on this. It is what it is. All of those
mentioned in this article DO have a BYU connection. There are seven examples,
some of which are the same people hired multiple times. This article
doesn't say they were hired at USC because of the BYU connections, just
that there is one. Why do the Yners feel threatened by the truth.
Harmon: Hey everybody!! byu byu byu byu byu byu byu byu byu!
USC will regret it; just like hiring Kiffin. Sark was fair at best, at UW. The
numbers speak for them self.
Coach O, I hear there is a head coach opening at Washington.
Sarkesian is from byu and we win byu all the time and now sarkesian is at usc
and that means we will win usc all the time now.Go write it down!
Sark was never an option for HC at BYU because he isn't LDS, which is a
requirement of the job. BYU can and does hire non-LDS assistant coaches but the
head coach must be LDS.
CarsonProvo, UTTrust Dick to come up with something to shake
those BYU pom poms.---------Steve Sarkisian's
Resume:2 years in Provo3 years in Saskatewan (CFL)1 year
at El Camino College4 years at USC1 year in Oakland (NFL)3
years at USC4 years at WashingtonSark is as much a Cougar as
Kyle Whittingham so it makes since when Dick says:"But most of
all, Sarkisian brings to USC, a treasure trove of offensive experience and
knowledge, a great chunk of which he gained in Provo from Norm Chow, Lance
Reynolds and LaVell Edwards."I am willing to bet USC fans where
he spent 7 years disagree.
Trust Harmon to fluff up the skinny connections to BYU. He takes 3 guys (one
who's a Ute) and PRESTO, 7 times has SC turned to BYU for help!!Oh, puleese!!!
cmon Harmon. I thought you were better than that. And I live in Provo.
As a BYU fan, this article is a joke. I'm sure USC says, lets hire guys
with connections to BYU. Let's get real. They hire talent, and if that
talent has connections to USC, they will hire it faster. Such as a former
assistant coach who is doing well as a head coach...oh and he happened to be a
QB at BYU
LaVell was the greatest. His mark on college football continues to grow 13
years after retirement. He must have gone to a really good college himself.
re: defibman"BYU's footprint's are all over the NCAA
and NFL. This will payoff in the near future."What footprints in
the Nfl? The Miami/Carolina game had more Utes that game than there a byu
players in the entire league
Because Sark lit it up in Jet City? Oh, wait. That's Pete CarrollOrgeron got shafted.I wonder if Sark will get part of his staff
from Provo. ROFL!
I'm sure that the Huskies will want to make Whittingham their next coach.
He coaches the best team in the best conference. Mark it down!
Well, there goes the uties chance for an appearance at the Rose bowl for the
foreseeable future! BYU's footprint's are all over the
NCAA and NFL. This will payoff in the near future.
Congratulations, Steve! Former BYU players make really great coaches. Those who
come to mind are Steve S., Andy Reid in the pros, the coach at Washington State,
and the coach at Utah, Kyle Whittingham. Does anyone know of other college
coaches who originated at BYU?Interesting that when they want a mess
cleaned up, they turn to value-driven players from BYU.Go Cougars!!
Congrats Sark! Great hire by the Trojans, but too bad for Washington...it may be
a while before they can bring in a coach of Sark's caliber.
Well, there goes BYU's chance of reaching the next level. Bronco is a great
guy, don't get me wrong, but I don't think we'll ever reach the
great/elite level with him at the helm. Sark was probably the only option out
there that would have been an upgrade (since Anderson just signed at
Wisconsin).Good luck at USC, Sark.
Makes sense to turn to BYU for football expertise.I wonder why they did
not look at Whit? Hmmm...
Ah, the good ole days. Man do I ever miss Lavell! It has never been the same
since he retired.
come on dr hill...fire kyle and hire orgeron...he is a stud...11 years at USC
and got snubbed...he turned an amazingly bad situation into a very
good one...he went 6-2 after the kiffin disaster...please...kyle
just aint got it for a big time conference...
Trust Dick to come up with something to shake those BYU pom poms.