People are paid according to their skill level, and how they increase cash
flow.A skilled quarterback increases revenue, and is paid for it.Fast food is low skilled, and was never meant as a career job. A wise
person uses this as a stepping stone to bigger things.In a
classroom,--are the honor roll students responsible for those with lower grades?
It was fair for everybody, but some choose not to do the work. Grades were
dependent on effort, and not entitlement.When students go through
school receiving free meals, and other benefits,--they grow up feeling fast food
should pay the same as higher skilled employment.
Several posters are really eager to pay unskilled workers $15 per hour, and
management and owners the same or less.I invite them to put their
money and time where their posts are, and start their own businesses to
implement these policies. And, comply with the mountain of government
regulations and mandates regarding employees, environmental issues, insurance,
liability protection, licenses and permits, taxes, etc.Let us know
in a year or two how your businesses are doing, how your employees are doing
with their generous pay. And, if you are satisfied with the return on your time
and investment as a business owner.If not willing to run your own
business, don't complain about how others run theirs. No one is forcing
anyone to work at the burger joints. If someone has $15 per hour skills they
should apply for a job where those skills are needed. If someone is
semi-literate, cannot make change, is late for work, or will not follow job
requirements, they don't deserve one of the fast food jobs.I
admire the work ethic of many immigrants (including illegal) making good money
at hard jobs, while some citizens seem unable or unwilling to work.
Open minded Mormon: I'm happy for Seattle McDonald's workers. I
would love to see an economy where free markets decided what business'
stay in business and what business' go bankrupt, instead of the government
propping up some and causing the downfall of others for political expediency.
It would be fun to see local business' start to compete for labor without
using the government to "fix" things. Unfortunately, for the
misinformed (to put it nicely) citizen, the Democrats and Republicans both know
the game and will only change their tune when re-election money starts to dry
up. Minimum wage laws, whether $8.50 an hour or $15.00 an hour, are a form of
slavery that all business's have bought (literally) bought into. Once the
rules are set, rules that insure their survival, they could care less. Both
Democrats and Republicans sponsor the mess and that's why the mess will
george of the junglegoshen, UTJust thinking, Since collage kids
student lone their way, I think it must be the student lone is the reason. The
students can't find a better job.8:14 a.m. Dec. 3, 2013======== Collage?lone(s)?Just thinking...
McDonald workers in Australia make $15 an hour -- McDonald's is still
there.McDonald workers in Seattle make $15 an hour -- McDonald's is
still there.There is absolutely NO facts or data to support the myth
that FastFood workers must make minimum wage in order for a business to remain
It baffles me that people still slam fast food workers as unskilled labor... If
you think it is so unskilled, and that there are not those worth in excess of
$15 an hour' I encourage you to shun the 'beneath you' mentality,
suit up at your restaurant of choice and give it a solid month. If you can
handle the corporate or franchise malarky coupled with the serious strain of
rush hours then by all means... Continue on to say that we are valueless
workers... Oh, and don't bother stopping by to get a $6 thick burger, Big
Mac, Whopper or Chalupa etc... Our smiles and happiness belong to those who
appreciate what we go through to make their experience at least up to par if not
above. (slamming a profession is NOT an expression of appreciation!)What you guys slamming us are saying is that the very restaurants you go for
lunch or breakfast shouldn't even open the doors until 45 minutes after the
final bell of high schools ring... Who else is available to work those hours
before and during school? Is that really what you want?
One old man: You are talking with a split tongue. You can't demand that
laws are made to "stop the corporate greed" then talk about
"Edna's place" as if it is different than a corporation. Call it
what you may, Edna's place was practicing good old fashioned free
enterprise, something you seem to despise. Edna's place was Edna's
place because of liberty and freedom that it is getting less of everyday. If
you go to Walmart, you are supporting the very things you want to tear down.
That is called hypocrisy or irony or whatever. You can't have it both
ways. When enough workers in America want to do away with corporations like
Walmart by not shopping there, it will fall apart. More than likely it will
continue to operate because your party (Democrats) and your supposed enemy
(Republicans) will insure that it exists either through government fiat or Crony
Capitalism. Make it a law that all Walmart employees make $100,000 a year, but
if the Democrats and Republicans are involved, somebody else will just pay the
bill! They love it that way;It keeps them in power!
Old man you need to read TimD comment "If people want to earn
$15/hour (or more), they need to provide services worth $15/hour."Thats the problem right now in this Country. The POTUS (you know the truthful
one) makes what? $200,000 yearly.He provides $15.00 an hour of
If they made 15 dollars an hour throughout a 40 hour work week year around they
would make as much as some starting school teachers in the State of Utah. Is
that reasonable for a very low skilled worker?These unskilled workers can
work up, even low skill workers can develop skills. Move on to construction, oil
industry, clerical work, and many other jobs that will build skills.In
September 2013 3.9 million jobs were open in the U.S.(BLS), if they want to
succeed take a risk move on to a new job and work your way to a better
living.I started doing meningeal labor for a company at 16 (assembly line)
worked hard moved up to warehouse, then to the engineering department. Then I
worked two jobs when in college, have no loans.I left the engineering
department of the company last year as the 3rd highest position, took a new
position for much better money (which I got from experience and education, 60%
higher than entry level people).The key is work hard build skills and then
you are in demand and make money.BTW the stuff I used to build I made 40
cents for each one I built.
On another note, I once lived in a town in which an independent restaurant owner
made it a practice to hire high school students who were struggling in school.
They were referred to her by the school's guidance counselor.Part of their job at the restaurant was a requirement that they spend at least
an hour at a table in the corner of the place DOING HOMEWORK. She, and even
some of her customers, were ready and willing to help them if they needed it.
When a student's grades improved, they received a small -- yet still
significant -- pay raise.Her other employees were paid well enough
that they didn't depend entirely upon tips to support themselves and their
families. Her menu prices were actually a bit higher than the other two places
in town, but the food was better (happy employees do a better job?) and the
place was always crowded while the others were nearly empty. Many of my friends
there made no secret that they ate at Edna's Place because they wanted to
support what she was doing to help those kids and her other employees.
Just thinking, Since collage kids student lone their way, I think it must be the
student lone is the reason. The students can't find a better job.
@ DVD "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.applies to economic situations as well as political."
so you want these workers to burn down the business? How about this
crazy idea - if you want a better paying job work hard at your current minimum
wage job while looking for a better one. Yes liberals don't want to work
hard, they just want to be paid for their in-competent, you don't have to
look farther than the current occupant of the White House how disastrous this
type of thinking
It has been reported that for McDonald's to increase worker pay, it would
be necessary to raise prices of each hamburger or sandwich about 10 to 15 CENTS.
As for me, I know I'm not ENTITLED to a cheap sandwich and would gladly
pay an extra dollar for a Big Mac meal if it meant the people preparing and
serving it for me would be earning decent wages.In the meantime,
McDonald's has a new CEO. Pay has not been disclosed yet, but his
predecessor just retired after "earning" $1600 per hour. He will
receive a "generous" retirement package, unlimited personal use of the
company jet ($1400 per hour to fly and maintain), and a few other perks.$1600 per hour is enough to pay 106 workers a living wage.And what about all the other high muckety-mucks in the corporate offices who
also receive "generous" compensation?Most of the people
posting above obviously have no idea what is actually happening in the real
world around us.
With no intended insensetivity to fast food workers-I once was one-I
wouldn't advise a stunt like this. Fast food workers on minimum wage have
no useful skillset for the position; it's only unskilled laber they have to
bargain with, not any rare or necessary skills. And during a time in which many
are still seeking employment, it would be less inconvenient now than ever for a
fast food retailer to let the strikers go and hire new people who can quickly
learn the job.It would be a cut to the business in both spinning up
new workers -and- taking the pay increase, but they could elevate spite to an
art form if they let the strikers go, replaced them, then paid the replacing
members the increased wage.But ever since the "occupy
wallstreet" nonsense, I've grown rather weary of stunts like this.
The most effective and fastest way to increase the unemployment rate for
unskilled, entry level teenage workers!
This is the only way to begin and economic recovery, workers uniting and getting
organized and demanding their share of the profiteering by corporate america,
this is real sharing of the wealth. Workers and business coming together without
government mandates or oversight, people and business coming to an equitable
labor and job benefits plan. Workers with money are workers who spend money, its
the economics of prosperity and growth.We all have the right to
demand our value, just as CEO contract with corporations, workers also have the
right to contract with the corporations as CEO executives. Well paid workers are
the life of economic growth. Corporations don't have the right
to fire people for wanting higher wages or benefits, the new america is
erupting, the left wing socialist will be left in the dust of poverty forever.
Unions benefit the economy and prosperity and growth of the nation, it has
proven its value over the years when america was becoming a world power. Unions
and united workers have proven their value, complacency and poverty have proven
why the economy is stagnant. Corporate and business greed are destroyers of an
If people want to earn $15/hour (or more), they need to provide services worth
"If I found anybof my employees picketing.....I would fire them!"It's better than the alternative that angry workers in Bangladesh
have found. The managers and bosses have harsh reprisals for any dissent from
workers there, so the workers save up the anger until they have enough support
to burn the factory. "Those who make peaceful revolution
impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." applies to economic
situations as well as political.
In what world is a 39 cent taco worth $1.25?When these same people
realize that their 29 hour work week job is going to require them to get a
$6,000 deductible health insurance plan on their own dime then just maybe we can
get them to march on Pennsylvania Avenue.
Too bad that all the real jobs went to China. I thought these places was for
high school and collage kids, never something to try to support a family.
I really wish the newspapers and outlets would stop advertising these events.
There have been literally dozens of them across the country over the past year,
all put together by a well-organized union group, none of them successful in
getting more than just a few people to show up (and they have to pay them to
protest). This is a non-movement, and the papers need to stop covering it.
DN Subscriber 2, Mark Twain illustrated that concept of higher wages versus true
buying power quite well I thought in his 1889 novel, A Connecticut Yankee in
King Arthur's Court.
So they want fewer workers hired at a higher wage, or for the cost of fast food
to increase substantially. One or both has to happen for this to work. Now if
you assume that the price elasticity of fast food is very high, especially among
lower income populations as some studies have postulated, then higher prices
will likely have a laudatory effect on public health if fewer people eat
unhealthy fast food. But, of course, that also means that the demand for fast
food will go down and fewer workers will be needed in the fast food industry.
And, with higher wages, many of those who are trying to make a "living
wage" working in fast food will be priced out of the fast food labor market.
So it will be fascinating to see if this pseudo-unionist approach to the fast
food wage issue will on balance cause more harm than good (or vice versa) among
those it seeks to elevate.
If I found anybof my employees picketing.....I would fire them!
A scheme by folks who do not understand economics, backed by the SEIU union
bosses who want to increase their membership with gullible young workers. Their real goal is to drive up "minimum wages" which will enable
them to demand that everyone else get increases too, since they should earn more
than burger flippers.Of course, that triggers inflation so all those
wage increases are meaningless as far as increasing buying power.