I guess Chris' constructive comment would be for USU to give up football?
Come on Chris, answer up…what would you have USU do to improve?
I just don't get the constant rain on the parade of USU by what I perceive
as individuals who have no concept of collegiate competition and seem to be
envious of USU's success. The Ags have had a remarkable season and are
playing for their conference championship when many teams might have folded. A
great season, regardless of final outcome. For kids who want a competition role
model, I suggest they look no further than what USU accomplished this year.
Chris, if Utah is so superior in your mind, fine. You aren't going to
convince anyone here that USU should drop football, fold up camp, and quit
because they aren't in a power conference. We have a shot to win our
conference! YES!! Go Aggies!
You can take the Utes out of the WAC, but you can't take the WAC out of the
cb,Please be sure to let us know when the utes beat Stanford, UCLA, USC,
and the likes week after week. I will be glued to the threads with great
anticipation.By the way you forgot to mention WSU and Colorado Oh
never mind, you lost to them this year and last.
HAHAHA, chrisb claiming utes are so good... well win your games!you had to
have home field and lucky trick plays to beat us, with all your 4 star
recruits... what are they doing now? Cleaning out their lockers, while we still
practice and play for the next month.
"We don't need for the aggies to show us how to beat nobodies, we need
them to show us how to beat Oregon and Stanford and Arizona state and ucla and
USC week after week"Chris B? Still checking...Chris B? Nope,
No Chris B on the Utes roster.
Once again the Des News takes a cheap shot at the Utes. You can literally feel
the disdain for the Utes as you read this stuff. The comparison is Apples to
By continuing to beat on their chests and pluck out their hairs, ekute and Chris
B simply become pathetic representations of who they claim to be - Utah Utes.
The U of U programs outclass these two plebes by leaps and bounds. While it may
be true that both USU and BYU failed to garner wins against Utah this year, the
tables could easily be turned in the next encounter - or maybe not. It
won't matter until it happens. They don't have to consider their
"lack of success in the PAC 12" as they are not in the PAC 12. And to
postulate that BYU or USU are "praying" for any kind of a call from
anybody in the PAC 12 is just plain stupid.
Haha, now Chrissy is a conference commissioner saying who will and will not get
in...hilarious. Keep posting Chrissy we love it haha. BYU fans don't want
the PAC12 or to be in anyway associated with U!
I don't think Rock was claiming USU is better than the U. Indeed, all
evidence is to the contrary. However, I think he was comparing how the two teams
faced comparable steps up in strengths of schedule and injuries with completely
disparate resources.USU is not comparable to Utah. Utah takes in
more money in one year than USU does in 5. Utah recruits more 3 and 4 star
recruits in one year than USU does in 5. UoU enjoys 2-3X the fanbase and
exposure as USU. USU cannot keep a quality coach, UoU wants to fire perhaps the
2nd best one to ever coach in the state of Utah.Yet, USU now
competes--with BYU and Utah--without the resources. USU beats the teams it
should beat, and competes with the ones it should not. Chris B may
mock USU for beating the teams that the 2008 UoU team tried to claim offered
some quality, but Chris B simply denigrates the U by even comparing them to UoU.
They are not, nor should they be, in the same conversation. Yet, as Rock points
out, they are. Go Aggies.
ByU and Usu are praying the PAC 12 or big 12 will callAnd we
nampaaggie9,What's funny is the USU and byu "fans"
celebrating the lack of success in the PAC 12 of the team that they can't
@ekute, what's funny is your season is over, send all the aggie fans a
weekly fishing report for the next month, I knew ute fans could bo of some sort
of help, it's mwc championship time. ....what a great time to be an
The plain and simple truth of the matter is that Utah’s “Big
3” teams were assigned to WIN GAMES. None of them won all they were
supposed to but 2 won enough to go bowling – 1 didn’t. They are not
being compared to each other outright but to their respective records in
conference. As long as it can be recalled that both USU and Utah are in separate
conferences, the comparison IS valid. In the end, nobody gives 2 hoots about
strength of schedule, only strength of WINS regardless of schedule. The article
probably could have been just a well without the jabs at Utah but the truth is
still the truth no matter how you dance around it.
What's funny is that if Utah played USU and byu again today, there's
no reason why Utah wouldn't come out on top...again.
This article was spot on. The Ute's are in a league that they can't
handle and USU found a good fit. It is nice to be the only Utah team that is
going to a championship game. It will be fun to watch two more games. O how
things have changed in the last few years.
Chris B. and JoCo Ute,No one cares about your strength of schedule
or other ratings when you're not bowl eligible. WIN more, and then
it's a great comparison. It's fairly obvious that when Utah played
BYU, the Utes were the better team. However, it's also fairly obvious that
is not the case at the end of the season. Utah beat USU on the strength of some
great execution and more than a few breaks. Anyone who watched the game knows
that USU was the better team. Unfortunately, that doesn't matter in the
record books. Enjoy your victories over the in-state rivals. BYU is bowling,
will beat a PAC-12 team that Utah lost to, and we'll see you in three
years. USU fans, thanks for not chickening out of the rivalry and for realizing
how great of a thing it is. We'll see you next season with Chuckie Keeton
Utah is the worst program in the state as proven by the results on the field
against byu and USU, over the last 15 years.With such horrible records
against their in-State foes, utah should just give up.
Why does a team brag of going to the PAC 12, than whine of playing hard teams?
Wow...this article really bruised a lot of Ute fans. Great season USU! Even
when YOUR quarterback went down you still found hard and won. Good luck next
week against Fresno.
I suggest that Chris B's constant acidic comments are the #1 reason why
fans of other schools cheer against U of U these days. Even though I went to
BYU, I used to always pull for the Utes when they were playing other teams. I
even had a relative who was a FB All-American Ute. These days I hope they lose
mostly because of Chris B. I bet there are a whole lot of others that feel the
same way.Also, what he says may be hurting the recruiting for the U
It hurts, but there is a lot of truth in this article. There's no arguing
that both teams upgraded conferences and competition with their moves. They both
lost promising quarterbacks to injuries. The difference, however, is that one
team went in with excuses, and the other went in with determination. The Utes need to go in with the same determination they have for the BYU game
on every game of the season. Unfortunately, they go in with the excuse of
playing the hardest schedule in the nation. Of course you will lose a lot of
close games when you already have an excuse planned. Now, the season is over for
one team, so it's time to get over the excuses, put together a winning game
plan, and make some changes next season.
Happy for the Aggies. You join a league to compete against other teams of like
caliber and enjoy the competition and try for a championship now and then.It is fun winning and celebrating, not so much losing but that's
life. Bowl games let a team continue to practice and play and compete. I grew
up in California, got a little taste of the the "Big Game" i.e. Cal v.
Stanford, but now I read with diminished interest because I don't live
there nor care much about PAC12. Utah has a tough league, a tough
schedule yeah, yeah. But the bottom line is that they are not going to practice
nor play until September 2014. So USU and BYU get to practice and play some
more. Almost half of D-1 teams will practice and play some more. It is sad to
witness the Utes not taking care of business to be able to practice and play
some more.No one cares about strength of schedule. No one. When
the Y moans about this and that I don't care either. Take care of
business, get ready to play and good things will happen.Way to fire
Here's the rub, Chris:U were in the WAC/MWC for decades and
only won a handful of conference championships. So now U are in a mighty BCS
conference for THREE stinking years, U haven't won 10 conference games yet,
and U are somehow heads and shoulders above the MWC, the very conference U owe
your past success to? That's too funny. No wonder I'm not
a Ute fan anymore. Three years in the PAC certainly doesn't erase 45+ years
of history in the WAC/MWC. My Ags have two more games to look
forward to. Your season is over. It's gonna be a long off-season for U. Mark it down!
congrats aggies! I hope you beat Fresno State.Utah was just one
Chuckie Keaton leg cramp away from going 4-8.
Chrs:Good question, maybe BYU and USU should learn trick plays from
Utah...it's true, I hardly ever see BYU run trick plays. Just another issue
to bring up with Robert Anae I guess. BYU tries to beat people head up, but
maybe a few tricks is what we need to get the ute monkey off our back. Of course
phantom holding calls on kickoff returns for TDs doesn't help much...USU
and BYU are getting tired of beating Utah in yardage but coming up short on the
scoreboard, so thank you for the advice...need more trick plays, Anae!
Oh, this article hit a nerve!Utah had a greased schedule to the
conference championship game their first year. They just had to beat Colorado
in SLC. They had Norm Chow as OC. So yes, comparing what USU and Utah did their
first year in the conference is fair game and the Utes come up short.In fact, the Utes have been in the conference three seasons now and still
don't have 10 conference victories (4 seasons required for that), have
missed bowls two years in a row (and counting), and finished in 5th place in the
southern division...right where they were picked when the season began.USU has improved, Utah has become stagnant. But Utes are members of an elite
BCS conference (the BCS is now history after this year), are making tons of
money, and always use the hard schedule as a reason why they can't win.USU can enjoy a bowl game, as can BYU, and Utah will get to recruit
players hoping they don't ask about the bowl schedule and experience while
in the PAC 12. Point out you won 2 BCS Bowls, ok? Might help....
Cougsdawgs,Why didn't usu and byu pull out tricks to beat
Utah?Don't have them?
So Chris, you are saying USU played all of 2 PAC 10 + 2 teams (both on the road)
and lost both while the utes went a magical 2-7 in league play while losing ALL
4 road games and somehow you think the utes are better? I am pretty sure the
AGGIES could go at least 2-7 given the same schedule even without the resources.
All I know is I am thankful my team is playing again twice in December instead
of having that very long 9 month wait staring at me. All the comebacks,
stats,comparisons in the world can't compare with actually still having
games to look forward to. Going to be a long winter, spring and summer for
you....mark it down. :)
Chrissy: I wouldn't compare USU's game against USC if I were
you. They looked a whole lot tougher against USC (with marquis Lee who
didn't play against Utah). Utah looked like a joke against USC while USU
took them to the final whistle. Careful the comparisons you want to make. And
how quickly you forget that USU was owning Utah until the utes had to pull
tricks like onside kicks out of the bag.
BTW. . . Major kudos to USU on a great season. This Ute can enjoy seeing USU be
successful. Congratulation to all the coaches and the players. Good luck in the
Championship game.Too bad the articles negative comments on Utah had
to cloud up what could have been an opportunity for all Utahans to offer
congratulations to USU on a great year.
Good win! Beat Fresno, and enjoy your bowl game.Aggies deserve it!
@Sports NutzSmithfield, UTUhhhh, Sports Nutz, I'm not a
U fan. I have always been a BYU fan. I watch Ute games in hopes of seeing
them lose because of U fans like Chris B. I just think it's absurd to
suggest that USU's path to success in the MWC is in any way as challenging
as the Ute's path in the PAC 12. It's like saying hiking Timpanogas
is the same as climbing Mt. Everest. It's hardly in the same realm of
difficulty. If that disturbs USU fans, oh well.
Ute fans:My how the truth hurts. USU goes to the championship in their
first year in a conference (WAC & MWC) where Utah could only muster 6
championships in nearly half a century. Utah fans, you weren't anything
special in those weaker conferences against weaker competition. It would be one
thing if U had accomplished much against weaker competition like BYUs domination
to the tune of 26 conference championships but U don't even compare. Go
ahead and shine up that SOS trophy that everyone cares about while USU is
playing for championships...ask any Aggie if they'd rather be sitting at
home with U. The reason Utah will never compete in the PAC is that they
WON'T learn anything from the Aggies...they'll just continue to whine
about being picked on for their mediocrity because of their tough schedule. You
chose the PAC ute fans, enough of the excuses and whining about your complete
By all means praise the Aggies! But there is no need to do so at the expense of
the Utes...poor form this. And do remember This same Aggie team lost to the
Utes when they were at full strength earlier in the year...and those beat up
Utes also beat BYU a team that beat the Aggies. In fact, Utah beat Weber State,
BYU and the Aggies...no mean feat this or any other year! Let's just be
happy that finally good things are happening in Logan.
Sports nutzDid usu get better? Or did they just stop playing PAC 12
teams as the season went on? Surely you understand the concept of strength of
schedule right?The WAC 2.0 had NINE chances to beat the PAC 12.
Guess how many WAC teams won?Nine? NopeEight? NopeSeven?
NopeSix? NopeFive? NopeFour? NopeThree? NopeTwo?
NopeOne? NopeLol! And two of those losses were the aggies
against the #5 and #10 PAC 12 teams If aggies are content in just
being able to say you are better than nobody WAC teams, I guess you should
Leave it to the DNews to take a great accomplishment by Utah State and turn it
into a hateful jab at Utah. Stay classy, DNews!
Last check for Strength of Schedule @ Sagarin had Utah @ # 1, the toughest
schedule in the nation. USU clocked in at # 86. CF Team Rankings Utah # 1 and
USU # 73. GBE computer rankings had Utah at # 2 and USU at # 106. Finally
Congrove computer has Utah at # 4 and USU @ # 90. This pattern should be clear
enough that even Mr. Rock should see my point.
re:32843 & Chris B, Where you won't have a team playing
in a bowl AGAIN this year, you should get together and come up with more excuses
and comparisons as to why USU and BYU got better as the season went along and
the utes didn't. Yes, the utes are in a better conference but that should
allow them the resources to recruit better players and coaches but it isn't
happening. They are on a downward spiral the likes of their basketball team. GO
Too bad, Rock couldn't just write an article recapping USU's season
and successful year in the Mountain West Conference.
That's how Rock rolls.Rock, Utah beat USU when USU was at the
top of their game.
Way to go, Aggies! You DID show Utah - and BYU - a thing or two by beating the
teams you were supposed to.Now it's your turn to take a cue
from Utah and pull off an upset to crown your season.I really
couldn't be happier for USU. Continue making most of us proud, and making
Chris and a few others defensive. I never get tired of hearing about how tough
life is for them.
It's hardly a fair comparison. The teams making up the Mountain West are
nowhere near comparable to even the bottom dwellers of the PAC-12. Sure, there
is a valid point bringing up Utah's missed opportunity in their first year
in the PAC. And admittedly the Utes have only gotten worse each year
thereafter, but, comparing USU's first year success in the MWC to
Utah's success (or lack of success) in the PAC is similar to suggesting
that a Div II team setting a NCCA rushing record is comparable to the same
record being set in the PAC, SEC or Big 12/10. The media making a big deal
about the Div II school setting the record makes that school feel relevant, but
everyone knows it's not like they set it against real competition.
Why bring in a team that beat USU (and BYU) into this to make fun of them for
playing in a much more difficult conference.
We don't need for the aggies to show us how to beat nobodies, we need them
to show us how to beat Oregon and Stanford and Arizona state and ucla and USC
week after week