Obama won now get over it! How can we get over someone/something so inept and
so void of leadership and such disastrous fiscal mismanagement? How can we get
over loss of faith in this leadership void? How does the country avoid this
fiscal precipice we are teetering on? Five years already and Obama fiddles while
America flounders in debt.
CurmudgeonHere is the thing about pre-existing conditions that most
of you liberals refuse to hear.....Each state has the right to make
insurance companies accept people with Pre-existing conditions prior to passing
the ACA. In fact it has been federal law since 1945.In Utah, the
insurance companies can only go back 6 months to look for pre-existing
conditions, and max of 12 months for individual policies.There are
13 states that prohibited Pre-existing clause for insurance companies (prior to
the ACA being created).The truth about pre-existing condition clause
was a scare tactic for the liberals to use to pass ACA.
"If a president generates "no confidence" among so many of our
citizens, our ability for smooth interaction among the three branches of
government is severely impaired … perhaps irreparably."If
I didn't know this comment, and many of the above were nothing more than
partisan sniping, I would be concerned. But the honest truth is what we have
today is nothing different than what we have had with each and every presidency.
The average for a President in his second term at this date is 49%... the low
was with Richard Nixon at 30%. To contrast that, Bush's approval rating
was 42% at this same point in his Presidency.So before we claim that
the nation is hanging by a thread... lets remember historically, this is nothing
new, and bar far not the thinnest thread it has hung by before.The
rest is just partisan shrill by those who have nothing better to do than find
Congress has an approval rating of 9%Obama has one of 43%.Granted -- 43% is pretty bad, but to say that Obama is worse than
Congress is ignoring reality.
To "LDS Liberal" what do you mean the GOP is the party of NO.
Wasn't it the Democrat lead Senate that voted NO to the budget and the
resolutions to keep it open, causing the shutdown of the federal government?
Wasn't it a bunch of Democrat votes that had to be purchased to get the ACA
to pass in the first place, meaning that it was Democrats voting NO to Democrat
sponsored legislation?Or are you saying that you want the yes men in
the Democrat party to run things? You know, the same people that have lead the
charge on taking the debt from $8.4 Trillion in 2006 to the $17 Trillion that we
have now?How about those kindly Democrats that changed the way
deportations were counted so that they could hide the fact that more illegal
immigrants are entering now?Or do you like it when the Democrats say
yes to legislation that allows for babies to die just because they had the nerve
to survive an abortion?Did you like it when the Democrats took the
worst parts of the Patriot Act and made them permanent?Isn't it
good to say no sometimes?
History will deem the Obama years as turbulent, but ultimately successful. He
got Bin Laden, pulled us out of Iraq, passed ObamaCare (and despite a tech
glitch, it will be up and running soon), initiated peace with Iran, steered the
economy from the brink of the Bush Recession, managed a dysfunctional GOP
congress, helped spark a renewable energy boom across the nation, reduced teen
obesity and diabetes, helped states recover from Hurricane Sandy (by contrast
with Bush's handling of Katrina), etc.Yes, there have been
mistakes. Obama is good at providing the vision and running campaigns, but less
effective in managing the government system -- clearly no one took ownership of
implementing ObamaCare, which led to its haphazard launch. But most
Americans would say they're better off than they were in 2008's
financial collapse. Wall Street is booming. Housing prices are rising. Wages
are still stagnant, but that is largely due to the uncertainties of when the GOP
will shut the government down again and create more mischief on business and
And here I thought this article was about the vacuum of nothingness known as the
"House of Representatives".The GOP = the party of NO (i.e.,
no as in nothing)But go ahead and keep blaming Obama, if it makes
you feel better.It isn't true.But truth and feeling good are 2
different things to some people.
Re: David, Centerville: Being Great is usually always in the eyes of the
beholder! In 2012 the majority of voters thought the POTUS even with the "
machinations and obstacles to block a president's agenda" was
"Great" enough to deserve another 4 years. But then again we in this
part of the country know that "Being blessed with wisdom and endurance by
the Divine Being in moments of great national distress" is only deserved by
the Right Wingers!
It is unlikely that a man of the people could or would be able to stand up
against the onslaught of the many years and even centuries of hate and
oppression from the business class. President Obama has two strikes against him
from the very beginning of his presidency. Race is one and representing people
the other. I would be hard to tell which of these the greater hurdle was. Almost every thing we know about this man has come from his enemies. We
know they are his enemies by their words and actions. And they control almost
every media outlet in America. They would discredit this president
even to the point of discrediting the United States on the world scale. It is
not likely that foreign enemies of America could have any better 5TH Column
agents working in this nation to destroy the United States of America. So if President Obama fails it will not be the fault of the people, but
the failure to sell an unpopular cause to the rich and powerful.
What defines a great presidency? As there is a learning curve for each
president, as well as unforeseen events, machinations and obstacles to block a
president's agenda, and a myriad of other challenges, what allows some
presidents to rise above it all and be defined as great?Character
traits, such as integrity, honesty and truthfulness.Surrounding
himself with wise and experienced counselors and people.Having a
clear and strong vision and direction.Having a strong foundation of
support found in the law and the people.Having a degree of humility,
and a willingness to change course as needed.Being blessed with
wisdom and endurance by the Divine Being in moments of great national
distress.Do we have such a president and leader today? I believe
the president's character is lacking; he is not surrounded by wise people;
he does have a strong vision for what he wants to achieve, but his direction is
weak; He does not build on a strong foundation of law nor the people; he is not
humble. In moments of national distress he has been weak.I doubt he
will be judged as a great president.
"If we have a presidency that unravels, we have a leadership vacuum."GOP hyperbole. Yes, Obama took a hit in public opinion, and rightly so,
over the inept roll-out of the government ACA website. But this will be short
term. If we want to talk about a presidency that truly unraveled, it was the
Cheney-Bush presidency. It unraveled to the point that all Republicans in 2008
had to run against Bush and Cheney. But we survived that meltdown. Yes, Obama has made mistakes. Which president hasn't? But considering the
immense opposition he has faced simply because the GOP determined up front that
they would try to destroy him, I can accept a few failures. All in all, our
country is in a much better position today than we were when Obama took office.
We are also in a much better position than we would have been under a
Romney-Ryan ticket. The austerity economics they were pushing have been tried in
Europe, with nearly disastrous results. Without Republican obstructionism, we
would be in a much better situation. But even with it, the sky isn't
It's interesting how Utahns can easily see the "leadership vacuum"
1,000 miles away in DC yet never mention the leadership vacuum 1 mile away in
Salt Lake City. Why is Swallow able to obtain $12,000 per year for
the rest of his life? Why isn't Swallow going to jail?Why
wasn't he impeached?What is going to change to prevent our AG (and
other politicians) from being bought off by big business? Where's the leadership?Why focus on Obama when our own house
needs to be fixed?
Peter Drucker said; "Leadership is doing the right things, management is
doing things right". Obama does neither! Obamacare, fast and furious,
Solynda, Benghazi, IRS scandals, NSA spying, "shovel ready jobs", $7
trillion in new debt in world record time, "If you like your health
insurance, you can keep it, PERIOD", dismal economy, constant excuse making
and blaming others..ect. By any definition,Obama is a politician but no leader!
The facts of his record of performance speak for themselves!
Romney lost, time to get over it. Also, The conservatives started war to find
nonexistent WMD's and melted down economy.
I suspect that Mr. Marples' definition of who is "truly needy" is
much narrower than the President's. Would he include all those with
pre-existing conditions who could not get insurance for any price under the
pre-ACA system? Not likely. But I am glad that Mr. Marples at
least would consider the expansion of Medicaid, which is apparently more than
our own governor is willing to do. As to leadership, I prefer President
Obama's inclusive approach to the exclusionary approach of Governor