The reason the liberals are so against religion is not because they are against
religion per se, since the secularists have the most powerful religion of them
all, the government,its because it weakens their 'religion', the
government. If they can obtain full power and authority with their government,
it won't be long until they can do what we all know they want, which is to
extinguish God and His followers from having any say anywhere. And now you know
why religious freedom and liberty is the most important right to defend in this
country, which was never set up to protect the government from the religious
views of its individual citizens, but to protect the individual citizens from
what the secularist power of the state. Anybody who states otherwise is
ignorant not only of American history, but is dishonest. Integrity qualifies
those who know and live by the truth.
@patriot So again you are selectively reading the words of one president
still not the based for our government.
Roland Kaiser: You sound bitter about the blessings that come from God,
including those that come from a country that has provided more for the nations
on earth than any other nation in the history of mankind. If someone
doesn't acknowledge His providence, it is still no reason to full of envy,
greed, and jealousy over how it was brought into being. Liberty and freedom
should be protected no matter if some refuses to acknowledge those blessings.
re:Sorry Charlie and LDS Liberal"You do well to wish to learn
our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These
will make you a greater and happier people than you are." (George
Washington)George Washington, The Writings of Washington, John C.
Fitzpatrick, editor (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1932), Vol. XV, p.
55, from his speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs on May 12, 1779It
should be an easy and obvious thing to just use GOOGLE and research the writings
of George Washington and our other founders regarding their firm belief in Jesus
Christ and the bible. Try it guys. To LDS Liberal - recall our own
article of faith which states we believe in allowing all people the privilege of
worshiping almighty God .. as they see fit...no state religion.The
point I was making is the constant need for liberals and progressives to falsely
attempt to separate Christianity from our founding fathers and our founding
documents. History is history like it or not and we are a Christian nation. A
Christian nation that makes room for all other religions as well unlike the
Muslim faith which calls on its followers to kill Christians and Jews.
@patriotCedar Hills, UTAmerica was founded as a Christian
nation regardless of what the heathen liberal progressive voices of today bark
out. ==========Read the speech "patriot", Washington NEVER mentioned Christianity at all.He mentions;
the Almighty, Providence, and God.Something a Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, or
any other Deist could all accept just as well.Please stop proportion
the lie that America is a Christian nation.
Some of you folks seem to want to remove the separation of church and state only
to the degree that _your_ religion is separated from the state. Should an Imam or a Rabbi or a Pope declare that they, too, expect government
to enforce their doctrines and customs you'll be falling all over
yourselves to to keep the government secular where "those other"
religions are concerned.You who clamor for more religion on
government don't know how huge and peril-filled the Pandora's Box is
that you're trying so hard to open.
@A ScientistPlease tell us where the words "separation of church
and state" are "explicitly stated" in the Constitution. I fail to
recall any point in history where a religious hegemony was a threat to your
"religious liberty" to believe how you may. The larger threat is the
current threat wherein the false belief of "separation of church and
state" threatens to deprive many of the freedom to believe and support their
believes through their actions. Your research, and subsequently your reasoning,
are flawed and indicate the bias that you desire others to accept without
justification. I suppose that you believe science is ignorance.
Interesting that the SLTrib cites President Abraham Lincoln issued his
proclamation establishing Thanksgiving Day as a national holiday. dated Oct. 3,
1863AND as cited in the DesNews story, President Geo Washington also
proclaimed a day of Thanksgiving. Now therefore I do recommend and
assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of
these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the
beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be--
Seems to me that if he was alive today, instead of offering that prayer, he
would have run into the night screaming in fear at the thought of our government
and wonderful leaders, By leaders I refer to those such as Obama, Hatch, Reid,
Pelosi, Boehner, and of course our own Mike Lee.We have no leaders,
only power hungry politicians.
That George Washington, or any and all other Founders, were or were not
religious and occasionally expressed religious perspectives does nothing to
support much less prove that there should not be "separation of Church and
State".The separation of Church and State is explicitly built
into the Constitution, and has been upheld repeatedly over many years.
Overzealous religious people would do well to realize that the more you try to
shove your religion down the throats of your fellow Americans, the more
passionate we will be about pushing back.I am thankful for a
deliberately and thoroughly secular government that protects my liberties from
the hegemony of religious zealots.
@patriot "So much for your exclusion of religion from national
speech. This declaration of President Washington is overflowing with the need to
express thanks to God "right because we all know our country was
founded on one speech by one president.
Just want to wish the moderators and those in the news business who are working
today, a Happy Thanksgiving!
He didn't need to mention capitalism or communism, the government
wasn't establish to control the economy of the nation. It was set up to
protect the civil and religious liberty of the people. Read it again. Thank you for publishing Waahington's statement!
It is true that we are too focused on consumerism and are often ungrateful.
However, I will defend capitalism. Without it we would not enjoy the comforts
of life and the technological advances we do have, such as being able to
participate in this blog. As Winston Churchill wisely stated, "Capitalism
is the unequal sharing of wealth; socialism is the equal sharing of misery."
Given those choices, I know my preference. Capitalism is not perfect but it
preserves freedom and allows rewards for hard work and effort. Socialism
reduces freedom and discourages hard work; it discourages becoming the best you
can and doing the best you can. This Thanksgiving I am thankful for many things
and one of them is capitalism.
Kelly W. Smith.You've spoken well what was in my heart to
Well liberals - so much for your separation of church and state nonsense. So
much for your exclusion of religion from national speech. This declaration of
President Washington is overflowing with the need to express thanks to God - to
have a day of thanksgiving and PRAYER. America was founded as a Christian nation
regardless of what the heathen liberal progressive voices of today bark out.
America is indeed one nation under God - like it or not. I say, thank God and
Heaven for such an inspired and incredible leader as George Washington who not
only won the war of independence but set a course for us to follow if we have
the open mindedness and foresight to recognize truth when it is spoken. Today -
we have politicians (not leaders) and that is why America is on such a sharp
decline. We have abandoned principles - principles that made America into the
greatest of nations. Hopefully at least those who still believe in the words of
George Washington today will still find inspiration from his words. What I would
give to have real leadership in the White House once again - what a difference
it would make to our country.
It's a good thing we did not have separation of church and state back in
Washington's day. No Thanksgiving, no Christmas, no Easter. I'm just
glad that our modern day politician's figured out the constitution and took
God and religion out of this wonderful country. We shouldn't even wish
someone a merry Christmas. Now we have thugs running around playing the
knockout game, etc. But we are encouraged to share with our families the
benefits of obamacare this THANKSGIVING DAY.
"Government" and "politics" and "Washington DC" had sort
of become 4-letter words to me, with all the dysfunction and abuse and insanity.
Just starting to read this article kind of flipped me around. It is true, we have much to be grateful for the government that was
established here, and the blessings that have resulted. Sometimes we
get jaded and focused on all the wrong things, and forget the amazingness.Thanks for the reminder. I've decided to go to this
kind of thinking when the next dumb thing happens(which we can't fix or
control anyway) instead of my usual aggravation,annoyance or frustration. Thanks again.
It is marvelous that such a man as George Washington would lead our country in a
manner like this, desiring the people of the country to recognize and give
thanks to God, the giver of all, for the blessings we have received. President
Washington set an example for the nation to follow. He lead them in many ways,
through a terrible war and with a firm hand, with faith and determination to
bring our country to existence. It would be wise for all of the
leaders of our current country to follow his pattern and continue his tradition
of recognizing the giver of all rights, and pay homage to God, instead of doing
all they can to eliminate Him from our culture, schools, politics, business and
laws. If we succeed in removing Him from our society, He will
succeed in removing Us from His land and has promised such with a stern warning.
Thank you for posting his entire speech. It should be read weekly,
not just annually.
I thought the Pilgrims was starving to death and American Indians saved their
life. I haven't known Washington s speech before now. Thank you for the
information. In joy your day. Happy Thanksgiving.
That's right! You thank whom you pray to. Giving thanks is then
automatically a prayer. Happy Thanksgiving!
Ronald Kayser: I believe that was covered under "and beseech Him to pardon
our national and other transgressions..." We do well to bow the
knee to acknowledge God's mercy in our lives. It is hard to
celebrate Thanksgiving with out acknowledging someone to thank. Being thankful
begs for someone to thank, IMO you can't have one without the other.
You mean he didn't say we should give thanks for capitalism, consumerism,
and commercialism? Happy Thanksgiving everyone.