Empirical evidence is not everything, and only human pride and foolishness leads
some to believe that it is so. Revelation is more powerful than anything that
comes out of a computer report or a test tube. "Reason" is worthless as
the irrational behavior of so many irreligious people proves regularly. I wish those who leave the Church would just admit that they do so
because of some sinful behavior for which they are not willing to repent, or
because of some offense they pridefully refuse to forgive. Be honest with
yourself, and with others, and maybe, MAYBE, at some point you'll find your
way back to some semblance of truth.
Atheists celebrating Thanksgiving is deeply ironic. If there is no God, there is
literally no one to be giving thanks to, at least not in the spirit of the
holiday's original intent. It's even more nonsensical than an atheist
celebrating Christmas. Denial of God and exaltation of self is not
conducive to a feeling of gratitude. Nor is it conducive to true happiness, only
to denial and massive, immature hubris. Religions only cause guilt and shame to
those that don't understand the nature of repentance or the
Atonement…which sadly is the case with a lot of people who are raised in
the Church, and many other churches, and who only ever understand the religion
through their culture instead of through honest and sincere prayer and study.
bj-hpYes. It is pure knowledge... that comes from your own opinion.
It can't be verified, tested, or anything else. So yes, it is in your head.
And BTW... since I left the church I have been quite happy. Truly happy.
bjhp,No, it is not "knowledge". Everyone knows only the
Scientologists have the true and pure knowledge!
DocHoliday: It is not an opinion but pure knowledge to know that everything
comes from our Heavenly Father. Everything we get in this life is from him and
no one else. We learn from him as he is our creator as well as our Father.
Just as Jesus is our Master, our elder brother, we are saved by his grace but
judged according to our Heavenly Father. Until you and those like you, you
shall never know true happiness.
I am so grateful that even non religious people can have an atitude of
gratitude, since grateful people are usually happier people. I would hope that
we all could be happy people. But I do wonder, who or what do you thank if you
do not believe in God?
bj-hpYour comments of how everything we have is from god as if it is
fact is misleading. It is your personal opinion, and isn't fact. Please
don't present it as such.
You know when people fail to look that everything they have is of the Lord.
Nothing is our own, it is given to us from the almighty himself. That is why it
is a day of reflection on the blessings we have been given. Our families and
friends, our homes, our jobs and everything we have. Those who feel otherwise
live in a world of ingratitude to what we have. Yes, it is great to be with
family but nothing, nothing compares to giving thanks to our God for what we
have. That is why as many have said, everything speaks of the creation from a
just and merciful Heavenly Father. Many don't realize that until they are
about to leave this life and go to the world beyond.
When I am feeling the spirit of Thanksgiving and appreciating my blessing from
Him above, I am humbled. I am free from the veneer and guilt mentioned in a
post above. I am grateful but retrospective of the many blessing I have which
have been given from God. Along with food, clothing, shelter, health, friends,
the beauty that surrounds us, family, His love, and air to breath, I also thank
him for other things, including His pure doctrine, Priesthood authority,
modern-day revelation, saving ordinances, fellowship with other church members,
and all other blessings which exist in His Church. These things make my life
and perspective easier, more harmonious, joyful, and peaceful. Indeed, I am
blessed.We should every day be thankful for our blessings. A wise
person once said, *An unhappy heart is and ungrateful heart."
RE; "Thanksgiving” The term "Eucharist=(Greek)) is that by which
the rite is referred by the Didache (*late 1st or early 2nd century), Ignatius
of Antioch and Justin Martyr, "the Eucharist" is the name still used by
Eastern Orthodox,, Catholics, Anglicans, Reformed/Presbyterians, United
Methodists, and Lutherans. Other Protestant denominations rarely use this term,
preferring either "Communion", "the Lord's Supper", or
"the Breaking of Bread". The Lord's Supper as witnessed by 1 Cor
11:20-21):For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you,
that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he
had ‘Given Thanks’, he broke it, and said, "This is my body
which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me". (1 Corinthians
11:23-24).Sacrament= ( Latin) from the Greek mysterion (mystery) in
Eph 5:32 & many other places. Many Christian Churches call them "the 7
mysteries" instead of "the 7 sacraments." In all of the 7 mysteries,
the paschal (Jesus)mystery is made really present.*No need for
restoration ,Christians churches still practice.
Mr Peterson, along with most of us, probably can do both without diminishing
We live in a great country where we can pretty much celebrate Thanksgiving as we
wish. I truly wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving in the ways you enjoy with
or without religion. For me the older I get the more I too wish to reflect on
the things stated in this article. And if we are to "live in thanksgiving
daily" (Alma 34:38) we may choose to spend a little time doing this each
day. That is a personal choice of course and that in itself is a blessing.
Thanksgiving IS a time for reflecting...and right now, I'm reflecting on
how the Green Bay Packers fell so far that they're getting pummeled by the
If Professor Peterson called for Thanksgiving to be spent fasting in grim
isolation, Dennis, I must have missed it.
Introspection, gratitude, inner peace, all of these things and more are
available to us all, without the veneer or guilt of religion.
Thanksgiving has become a tradition in many homes where families gather together
and give thanks for blessings bestowed by the Almighty.
Many people who don't believe in man-made religions are just as thankful at
Mr. Peterson....you have a lovely time contemplating, I'll have an
excellent dinner and wonderful time with friends and family.