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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 27 2013 10:00 a.m. MST

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

The funny thing about the lame big fish small fish thing everyone likes to mention is that the small fish in the big pond is still bigger than the big fish in the small pond. So yes, every school wants to be the biggest fish they can be. And if being a smaller(compared to your conference) fish is STILL bigger than the big fish in the WAC 2.0(MWC) I'll take that any day.

There is exactly one school and one school only in the ENTIRE country that is a non power conference school that wouldn't JUMP if Larry Scott and the Pac 12 told them to, and that school is Notre Dame.

A couple years ago, even last year, we weren't in the games against the best teams. This year, we were in the OSU, ASU, and UCLA games down to the very last play.

Whittingham has already proven he can take us to top 5 in the nation, and he'll do it again.

And until then, we're still bigger than the "big fish" in provo and logan.

Go Utes!

Salt Lake City, UT

Not at all.

Games have been fun to watch and very competitive. Hopefully, a few of these close losses will turn to wins.

Salt Lake City, UT

BYU has won as many PAC 12 Championships as Utah...in every sport.

Provo, UT

Chris B is of the opinion that going 0-12 while being in the Pac 12 every year is somehow better than going 12-0 anywhere else.

I think that most people are more rational. Being in a "big league" doesn't mean squat, if you never win. Who cares about UConn in football? Rutgers? Temple, for that matter? Washington State?

These are all "Big league" teams, just like Utah. Vanderbilt, a member of the mighty SEC. Who cares?

Who's more respected: Boise State, or Wake Forest? Wake Forest is in the ACC. Boise State isn't. Who has more cachet on the football stage?

Utah is the Wake Forest of the Pac 12. I think it's not been a good thing for the fans. Sure helps pays Wittingham's salary though.


The thing I'd be worried most about if I was a Utes fan is apathy. There's a reason teams like Wyoming, Colorado State, New Mexico, rarely if ever competed in the Mountain West when BYU and Utah were there. They understood their role as the conference doormats and that they probably were never going to be able to expect better. This is what Utah is in the Pac-12 and once that realization sets in things are really going to get ugly.

And all for what? To make some extra money and be able to say you're in a BCS conference? Hope it's worth it.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

I don't miss it. I would rather see Utah play Arizona St, or UCLA and lose in a good hard fought game; then watch them throttle New Mexico or Wyoming. Outside of the USC and Oregon game, Utah was in every game and all of the games were great to watch. I wish the results were differn't and a bowl game was forthcoming, but that's the way it goes. The ASU and Oregon State games really hurt Utah; both were oh so winnable. I also don't miss that horrible network the Mountain. Every game was televised, and the PAC 12 channel is in HD on COMCAST.

Salt Lake City, UT

Can you imagine Utah, BYU, Boise State, TCU, Utah State and Fresno State all in the same Conference?

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

Two words: Heck. No.

Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

I think a lot of Utes do, especially those who say
"Mark it down!"

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT


Once again byu fans miss the issue. I want Utah to be the best program we can be. And a 5-7 program in the Pac 12 is better than a 10-2 program in the WAC 2.0. Utah beat Utah state when both teams were full strength, and the Pac 12 is 9-0 against the lowly WAC 2.0(MWC) this year.

Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Stanford, Utah, Arizona, Arizona State, UCLA, and USC would all probably win the WAC 2.0 if we were a member of that conference.

But we don't want to be.

South Jordan, Utah

Nah - Ute fans love flying their PAC12 banners & flags. Funny that I am not seeing nearly as many Utah flags flying from cars / homes however. Wonder why that is?

If you don't have a team at least you have a conference!

Salt Lake City, UT

I didn't bother to read this article, the title was more than enough for me. It must be slow news day because ideas like this one should never see the light of day.

Salt Lake City, UT
"Can you imagine Utah, BYU, Boise State, TCU, Utah State and Fresno State all in the same Conference?"

No, I can't. I see Utah in the Pac-12 where they belong and soon being able to compete with every team in the conference. Nor do I see TCU with the other four you listed.

Mr. Robinson, a more valid question is whether byu fans "yearn" for the MWC days. Maybe you could try that angle.

Sandy, UT

The problem is and remains the Ute teams from the last three years is worse than the Ute teams from 08 and around that era. It's not that they are getting any better. Getting less consistent maybe. There is hope. I think Utah can turn things around and hope they do soon.

Bountiful, UT

USALover, I agree! The MWC (or new name) could have become a great conference with natural rivals. Instead Utah followed the money and perceived prestige. BYU was forced to leave for their own selfish reasons. The rest of the MWC schools got shaken around by other changes. Utah has gone from a high NATIONAL perception to nothing. (And BTW... Whittingham didn't get them there, Urban Meyer did!) BYU NATIONALLY was mid-level in perception/attention and is still about the same. I personally think that time will show that going to the PAC-12 was a huge mistake. Recruiting will be harder due to losing seasons, fans will quit going, heck 25 years ago Utah couldn't draw 20k fans because they always lost. This lack of fan support will return. It's the team, win/loss and to some degree, SOS that ultimately matters, not the conference itself.

Ifel Of'a-sofa
Alpine, Utah

Chris - what you are missing is that you are the same size fish as you were before... the pond size does not make the fish bigger.

Ifel Of'a-sofa
Alpine, Utah

the utes want to talk about the close loses as being "almost there", what they don't talk about is the close wins that could just have easily been loses... ie Utah State

North Logan, UT

I for one an happy that BYU and Utah left the MWC, or Utah State would never have gotten in and we'd be the independent team right now. They effectively kept the Aggies out of any conference they were in for over 40 years so I'm not sad to see them elsewhere.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA


What's it like not to have either?

Ifel Of'a-sofa
Alpine, Utah

the mighty pac 12... if the 4 team playoff were to happen this year, they would not even have a team involved.

rock springs, wy

If Ute fans had been honest with themselves when they were invited to the PAC10, they would have known that they were being being used by that league as a schedule filler and an in-league "cupcake" for the big boys. Does anybody on the hill really believe that the Utes will ever be a serious contender for anything but first place in the bottom six? Utah's big prize was being invited, period. That they are in denial about why is another question.

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