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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 26 2013 2:35 p.m. MST

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scrappy do
DRAPER, UT

there should be a new election because he broke the state election laws. I don't care what the cost is, have both parties pick their candidate next week and hold the election in March. It will not hurt the state to go a little while with out an A.G. - heck, its not like we had a working A.G. all this time anyway

Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

If he cheated to win the election, by law, the election is void. Never happened.

Hopefully they'll make him pay back the $90 he was paid in his fraudulently-gained position, and deny him the $12k pension he would have earned for his 4 years of Gov't service.

Cheating is cheating, and knows no party, race, or religion.
Law is law.

Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

"The comments made by the Democratic Party at this point are merely speculation," Utah GOP Chairman James Evans said in a statement.

Yeah...and maybe they "speculated" that Swallow was caught on video asking if any incriminating paper trail existed about one of his illegal deeds.

And maybe they "speculated" that he didn't file his election financials legally.

And maybe they "speculated" that he vacationed fraudulently at that spa in California.

No, Mr. Evans...they are not speculating...they are citing some proven, uncomfortable truths.

Web Geek
Lehi, UT

I understand the Democrats point, and agree with it for the most part. But I fail to see the point (nor fiscal sense) of holding a special election before next fall, when there WILL be a special election. Let the governor choose an interim AG and let's be done with it until then!

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Avoid the caucus system that picked him.

FT
salt lake city, UT

While it seems logical to have voters decide the next Attorney General it's far fetched to think Utahns will elect a Democrat to state wide office. Shouldn't we be using our tax dollars to defend ourselves from the tyranical abuses of Obama and the federal goverment instead of a pre-ordained election?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

IMO we shouldn't even have elections for AG. The Governor should be able to appoint and fire his attorney general just like the President appoints and can dismiss HIS attorney general if needed.

And if you say it's because we can't trust the Governor.. If we don't trust the Governor... why did we elect him?

The AG is there to help the Governor govern. The governor should be able to appoint someone to that position that he can work well with.

It wasn't that long ago that the AG was an appointed position in Utah.

I like the appointment approach so we don't get an AG and Gov who are adversaries and just but heads and can't get anything done. And IF the Governor appoints a scumbag... we just get rid of the Governor and his AG goes with him.

But it's no big deal. I honestly don't know why Democrats think it's worth spending $1.5 Million on a special election (that COULD be spent on education)... just to give them even the remote CHANCE of winning an office for one of their cronies.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

WOW... look at all the "Law is law" Democrats out there today!

They sound like a bunch of Conservatives talking about Illegal Immigration!

It's good to see some liberals saying, "Law is law" for a change. Now if we can only get them saying this about immigration or something other than an election issue that COULD get one of their guys elected... we will have made some progress.

I agree "law is law". Let's try keeping that attitude the next time being lenient on illegal immigrants is being debated in the media or on the hill.

Web Geek
Lehi, UT

BTW, the GOP delegates did NOT elect Swallow. He failed to win at the convention, it was the primary voters that elected him. It is incorrect for the democrats to suggest that the GOP delegates are to blame for Swallow's actions.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@2 bits and FT

So having an election and allowing us little people to have our say is just not worth the expenditure? Our votes as Democrats are just not worth your time and money, is that what I'm reading here?

I guess when you are the majority, you can just discount everyone else.

mcclark
Salt Lake City, UT

Two Bits---You elected him because he is a Republican, you would not even consider voting otherwise.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

and if a Democrat were to resign such as Becker, Libs would be crying that they won the election and a DEM should be selected to replace the Mr Becker........it just nevers ends the left will stoop to cheat and skirt morality!

Vanceone
Provo, UT

I listened to Mr. Dabakis this morning on KSL. He was flinging out wild accusations about Governor Herbert taking bribes and kickbacks, and accusing the entire Republican party in the state of corruption. I wish KSL would have asked him to prove his statements, since after all, he does represent the party of corruption. Just ask any Illinois resident about how upstanding and ethical the Democrats are when they get a chance.

As far as Mr. Swallow goes, I'm pretty sure that whomever Herbert picks would be a darn sight more competent, honest, and decent than any candidate the Dem's offer. Because after all, the shining example of Democrat Attorney Generals is our current one, Eric Holder--and you would be hard pressed to find a more corrupt person.

killpack
Sandy, UT

Can we just not have an AG? How much does that position even get paid? It's time we get rid of all of these fake, bureaucratic jobs. The city I live in has plenty of prosecutors, who themselves get plenty of tax money. As far as I can tell, the city runs smooth enough. Maybe not enough to justify city employees' salaries and pensions, but smooth enough. Why we need all of the state level bureaucrats? Yeah, let's replace one goombah with another. What? When did government in America, and Utah of all places, become such a burden on the governed class. All the while, the elite governing class live like kings at everyone else's expense! It's time we start slashing some of these 'non-essential' government appointments and elected offices.

JMT
Springville, UT

Two notes. Did the delegates cast a majority of votes for another candidate? If so, it was the primary system that gave us Swallow, not some grand conspiracy of the caucus. This is contrived, false attack.

Second, the moment I read a headline about the Democrats wanting a new election I think Wisconsin, Florida, Ohio, Minnesota, etc, etc, etc. The Left will hold election after election after election, vote count after vote count after vote count until they get the results they want.

In a very much related note, Obama was found to recieve over $100,000 in illegal donations from the 2008 campaign. I suppose we need to throw him out because he cheated and hold the 2008 election all over?

We are no longer talking about the AGs office and have officially stepped into the ACORN play book of counting votes until you win. An election was held, Swallow won, he resigned and now the law kicks in to replace him. It would be no different if Matheson stepped down, or Adams or any other Democrat.

Please, stop the ACORN-esque games.

citi1
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I am one of those rare GOP delegates who feel that the delegates should be done away with and let the vote go to the people. I do not think the delegates should choose the next attorney general, neither do I think the governor should. In fact, at the GOP county convention, Governor Herbert supported John Swallow and was seen with him a good part of the convention. Therefore, to avoid any further improprieties, I have to agree with the Democrats on this one. Let the people decide.

GiuseppeG
Murray, Utah

Hmmmm...the law is the law?

The law says if he resigns (as he has), the Governor picks from nominees from the Party.

Regardless of whether we believe the election would be vacated based on a trial other than "trial by press", which hasn't happened, nor would it be likely to be completed prior to November...the law doesn't allow for trial by press and pubic opinion to vacate an election.

Under current law, the office is vacated and replaced by the Governor until the election can be had in November...candidates being able to file for that in March (I assume...like any other election)...allowing for a full campaign and election process...and ultimately decided by the voters.

Sorry...I'm still convinced that the actual Utah State Constitution and law works better than the Dems law of ... ?

hermounts
Pleasanton, CA

There should be a special election regardless of who did what (and I'm a Republican)

Petra
Sanpete County, UT

You would think that th GOP would prefer to avoid the appearance of evil. If swallow gets to "resign" he gets yet more taxpayer money for his retirement.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

Exactly what election laws were broken? We the voters need more information. My understanding is he has not been charged with a crime. We are assuming he is guilty. I am referring to the election law allegations, nothing else. I have long advocated having the governor appoint the Attorney General.

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