Congratulations and good luck on being the best in the PAC 12 and in the entire
US of A. Kind of like the movie "Elf" where the main character notices a
sign on a coffee shop proclaiming "World's Best Coffee". The U may
be a special place to you, but as you have found out, there are a lot bigger and
better programs out there.
@eastcoastcoug not very many bigger programs than Utah and soon enough they will
be dominating the state in recruiting. After all who wants to play in high
school gym's and practice in the dump your team practices in. There are
only two other teams in the west coast with more trips to the tourney then Utah
and one of them ain't byu
eastcoastcougThanks for the well wishes. The new facility will
indeed be a tremendous addition to the University of Utah campus and the
basketball program. Coach K has the program moving in the right direction and,
in time, the Utes will once again be a national contender. At the onset of the
3rd rebuilding year, the transition has been nothing short of spectacular.
You know, as I read your post the first two things that came to my
mind were "The Daily Universe" and the ever popular..."the world is
our campus." LOL!'nuf said.
Crow"There are only two other teams in the west coast with more
trips to the tourney then Utah and one of them ain't byu."Forget byu. The two programs to which you refer are UCLA and Arizona. It is
no coincidence that both are in the Conference of Champions...OUR conference.
Some great basketball is coming to Salt Lake City and the Utes will stand toe to
toe with them.Go Utes!
Like I said, you guys are pretty full of yourselves. Most people out here in the
East Coast aren't even aware Utah has a football or basketball program.
I'm not saying BYU is anything special, but you guys need to get out of the
Wasatch Front once in a while and see the real world.
"you guys need to get out of the Wasatch Front once in a while and see the
real world."I think Jon Huntsman has been around the block a
time or two. His name is pretty prominent in the east, as well. Perhaps
you've heard of the Wharton School of Business?All I can say is
$36 million on a facility -- how much of that is going to the students, you
know, the ones providing the entertainment? Scholarships in the NCAA are STILL
$3000+ per year less than basic educational needs. Revenue has gone up by
BILLIONS, the amount of time athletes spend preparing has also increased, and
still, the athletes (who in the case of many sports, have bodies that have aches
and pains the rest of their lives), get the short end of the stick.
eastcoastcoug"Like I said, you guys are pretty full of
yourselves."They are indeed full of themselves as BYU is slowly,
but steadily leaving them in the dust:7 in a row, 11 of 12, 149 to
145 overallNCAA TournamentsBYU 27Utah 27with
BYU already looking like a solid tournament pick, and Utah forfeiting any chance
of an NCAA at-large bid with the absolute WORST pre-season schedule in the
country - 350th out of 350 in SOS.
Why are they fundraising? Isn't all of that pac12 money I keep hearing
about enough to build a small facility like this? Are they going to stick it to
the taxpayers and the students again?Sports at the U just
doesn't pay off. They would be better off dumping all sports and focusing
on academics and medicine. Something worthwhile.
"Most people out here in the East Coast aren't even aware Utah has a
football or basketball program."If you're talking about the
general population, that's probably true. 83 percent of Americans
can't even name a single supreme court justice (according to Gallup).
American's are unaware of the world around them. However, those who are
fans of college sports are probably more than aware of Utah's existence.
@Rational et al,I think Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Louisville, UCLA,
Syracuse, Tennessee and many others would laugh their heads off about your
"biggest" and "best" claims. I'm happy for you that
you're building a long overdue top-tier facility, but let's wait and
see how the team actually does before claiming to be the best...a problem the U.
and Y. fans BOTH have.And for those of you who think "gyms"
are not where real teams play, come out here and watch some of our East Coast
teams play in smaller arenas. There's some awesome basketball. Even in the
WCC, St. Marys and Gonzaga could beat your Utes any day of the week, in their
@lonestar runnerYou BYU fans would certainly know all about padding
your schedule with guaranteed wins. Just look at you football opponents over
the past several year: New Mexico State, Idaho, Idaho State, Hawaii, Middle
Tennessee State, etc., etc. And look at next year's schedule. More of the
same.I guess the question is, why would that bother you so much
about the Utes? Is it because it hits so close to home with your own cupcake
The same idaho state you'll be playing next year. What about weber
state...? Not sure schedule smack is in order, however, when texas comes to SLC
to play you, let us know. When you go to Wisc or ND let the world know as well.
As for hoops, don't you need to beat byu once in a while? When
people do fundraising they have a good product to fund raise with. How's
your on court product these days? Pretty untested given the competition you
played thusfar isn't it. Hope the team gets better. With all the 4-5 star
talent you get, you should be a title contender by now right?
eastcoastcoug"Like I said, you guys are pretty full of
yourselves."Like I said... "The Daily Universe" and the
ever popular...the world is our campus" say it all about the byu mentality.
LOL at byu's fans!"Most people out here in the East Coast
aren't even aware Utah has a football or basketball program." Interesting that you would say that. Just last week I had an attorney in
Washington DC tell me that Utah has a great reputation. Hmmmmmm....a jealous
byu fan stating one thing and an unbiased third party saying the complete
opposite. How completely unexpected is that?"I'm not
saying BYU is anything special, but you guys need to get out of the Wasatch
Front once in a while and see the real world." A byu fan
talking about the "real world" is indeed special.
It's an arms race. Looks like a nice facility. Nice to see the envious
Haters checking in right on cue. Classy, very classy indeed!
What is sad here is that kids trying to get a quality education are paying
"athletic fees" to support the athletic department.This money
would be much better spent on food or something for the kids.How about the
U atheltics stop spending more and give some back to the state.I think
most students pay 200 dollars a year * 33000 students 6.6 million dollars taken
from their students.When they have all this Pac-12 money coming in that is
almost theft.Especially when it goes to overall mediocre or bad athletic
teams.Raise money to give food to poor students eating Ramen everyday.UVU has a food bank students can go to. What does the U have? A new grossly
overpriced football facility.
eastcoastcoug:Your right, after the 2004 and 2008 football seasons
beating Alabam on National TV, The NCAA finals with Andre Miller and the boys
and the best ski team in the world......Maybe all on the East Coast should stay
up later and watch TV.Nice try.
U-tahI cheer for the Utes but you are referencing 3 items that are at
least 5 years old.And who has the nations greatest rodeo team is as
relevant as the skiing team (in fact a lot more fans of rodeo)How many
people talk about Hawaii being a BCS bowl? Or TCU beating Wisconsin in 2009.In the world of college athletics it is what have you done for me lately,
unless you are in a large TV market i.e Washington (because a lot of people
watch).Utah has not made a splash in years (neither has BYU) so in the
national perspective even most college fans don't care.By the way
Florida won the title in 2008 this year they are not even bowl eligible. Times
This is great news! Love seeing my Utes improve the facilities. Keep up the
good work coach K! The future is bright!
“This is a major basketball facility that will give us everything we need
to be successful,’’ said Utah athletics director Chris Hill.Everything needed except talent greater than UCLA, AZ, Stanford,
Etc...Granted Newlin came to Utah because of a new facility, but did
they make it anywhere outside SLC, no.Huntsman has so much money he
is just giving or throwing money away to charity, like the U of U Basketball
program. So Utah in the future should just kick the he!| out of BYU
because they will have the best toys to play with or on.
@Pavalova "When Texas comes to SLC to play you, let us know.
When you go to Wisc or ND let the world know as well."Nice
Try... When Stanford, ASU, UCLA, and Oregon State come to SLC to play you, let
us know. When you go to Oregon, USC, Arizona etc. let the world know as well.
When you do this every single year, please by all means, let us know. "As for hoops, don't you need to beat byu once in a while?" As far as football, don't you need to beat Utah once in a while?
eastcoastcoug"Like I said, you guys are pretty full of
yourselves."Like I said...The Daily Universe and the ever
popular...the world is our campus is all that byu needs to say. LOL!"I'm not saying BYU is anything special, but you guys need to get out
of the Wasatch Front once in a while and see the real world."A
byu fan proclaiming that others need to see the real world is simply
priceless.I really enjoy the news regarding Utah's facilities
upgrades. The byu faithful flock to these boards and show, in no uncertain
terms, how scared they are of becoming irrelevant. You people know it's
goredLOL at your delusional spin. BYU didn't pad
any schedule with guaranteed wins; BYU scheduled who they could to fill up their
schedule on short notice after declaring Independence. Football schedules are
made up years, sometimes decades, in advance. BYU had no choice but to schedule
the handful of teams that still had openings in their schedule for 2011 and
2012. In the process, BYU also managed to schedule a bunch of teams like Notre
Dame, Texas, Wisconsin, Boise State, and Georgia Tech, proving that your claim
of scheduling automatic wins is completely false.On the other hand,
OOC basketball schedules are made up yearly. There's absolutely no excuse
for Utah scheduling the absolute worst pre-season schedule in the country, other
than Hill and Kristko padding Utah's schedule with guaranteed wins.
Yeah - that new football facility really did magic for the football program.
Just curious - why are they reducing the seating capacity of the Huntsman
Center? Must have been something the Gymnastics program requested.
I'm sure it will be a nice facility but the utah "fan" gushing over
it is pretty funny. utah is a bad basketball program right now, BYU is a good
one. That is just the way it is.
Actually this is a great idea. Who knows, once this new facility comes on line,
the Utes might leap past Weber State and become the 3rd best basketball program
Truth Machine"BYU didn't pad any schedule with guaranteed
wins; BYU scheduled who they could to fill up their schedule on short notice
after declaring Independence."Well, 2014 will be four years into
the independence experiment. Have you seen the schedule Holmoe put together for
next year? It's every bit as sorry as 2011. So, LOL at your wishful
"On the other hand, OOC basketball schedules are made up yearly.
There's absolutely no excuse for Utah scheduling the absolute worst
pre-season schedule in the country..."You make a statement of
fact and you are absolutely wrong, at least in Utah's case. The 2013
pre-conference schedule was put in place two years ago. Considering where the
Utes were two years ago, this schedule would be about right. However, the Utes
are light years ahead of where they were two years ago and are now playing
competition well below them. It is what it is. Maybe you
haven't noticed but the Utah Athletic Administration is making no apologies
and Utah fans are not making excuses. The University of Utah certainly
doesn't need a hall pass from byu fans. However, if you want
to talk schedules...how about that awesome conference line up byu has?
eastcoastcougDanbury, CT@Rational et al,And for those of
you who think "gyms" are not where real teams play, come out here and
watch some of our East Coast teams play in smaller arenas. There's some
awesome basketball. Even in the WCC, St. Marys and Gonzaga could beat your Utes
any day of the week, in their "gyms"._________Look no further than BYU. They have already lost to St. Mary's and
Gonzaga in their "gyms."
@ WACReally you are going to talk about who BYU has lost to?Utah
losses last year.Sac State, Cal State Northridge, SMU, Washington State
(13-19), Oregon State (13-19), USC (14-18)The year beforeAdams
State, at Boise StateMontana StateHarvardMassachusettsUNC AshevilleFresno StateBYU lost to Saint Mary's and Gonzaga
yes but they have gone to the NCAA tournament both years.
Should be a great complex.It's funny how much this stuff gets
under the skin of coug fans. It seems obvious you guys aren't too confident
that your recent dominance over the Utes will continue much longer - otherwise
an article/announcement like this shouldn't serve much motivation for
"There's absolutely no excuse for Utah scheduling the absolute worst
pre-season schedule in the country, other than Hill and Kristko padding
Utah's schedule with guaranteed wins."No, there is no
excuse. Hill and Coach K have said that this year's schedule was put
together to help install some confidence in the program. Utah is still
rebuilding afterall. Ute fans understand that. I don't know where the
disconnect is with BYU fans.
Has Jon Huntsman ever been to any other Pac-12 school? To say that the new
facility will be the best in the country is laughable. Has he ever been to
Oregon? They built a brand new $236 million facility that is unbelievable. To
throw $36 mil at something is like a band aid as far as facilities are
Pac12commishThis new facility will suffice just fine, thank you very much.
Oh, and thanks for stopping by.motorbikeRight on point...I
could not agree more. I haven't seen this much basketball smack from byu
fans in years. They get more agitated the farther behind they fall. First it
was football and now the writing is on the wall for basketball. Kind of fun,
don't you think?Go Utes!
Do any of you really think he thinks it's the biggest or best in the
country? Let's use our heads for a minute before speaking. If he promotes
it that way, the money will actually arrive on the private half. Saying, "hey, it's the 91st best facility, but your money will really
help push us into the top 90", isn't very persuasive when inspiring
deep pockets to fork over a little dough.
@MyPerspective"Utes are light years ahead of where they were two years
ago and are now playing competition well below them. It is what it is."Are you being for real? Well below them? There is a reason Dr. Hill
scheduled a weak non-conference slate. They threw in the towel on any hopes of a
post season appearance when they scheduled savannah st, grand canyon, saint
katherines, lamar, idaho state etc. The Pac-12 media picked the utes to finish
9th for a reason. It was even 5 pts out from being 11th. If utah
wants to recruit with the big boys in the conference they need a facility that
is a game changer, and not one that most programs already have.
The new facility will be nice, but conference wins will improve recruiting
greater than anything else. Wins beats everything else. They showed improvement
in conference last year and I expect they will improve more this year too, bad
non-conference schedule aside. It's still a slow climb out of the gaping
hole we were in.
@motorbikeDeclaring that the team that is far and away superior is
the one that lacks confidence simply smacks of desperation. i'm sure utah
will some day improve over what they have been but they still are pretty bad at
this point. BYU on the otherhand is obviously quite good, borderline top 25 at
this point, and has more talent currently on the team than utah has had in the
last decade combined. If you want to throw in what they have on missions and
otherwise committed the disparity is even greater.BYU fans are
simply having some fun pointing out the ludicrous comments by huntsman about
this thing being 'the best in the country" and utah "fans"
actually talking any baksetball smcak at all. Yes someday in the
future utah will have a better basketball team than BYU, nothing remains the
same forever, and then some time after that BYU will once again be better than
utah. But for now and the forseeable future utah is vastly inferior to BYU, they
really don't even compare that is how bad utah is. Enjoy the journey I
@no perspective"I haven't seen this much basketball smack
from byu fans in years."Of course you haven't. Your shame
for the sorry state of the utah basketball program has kept you from even
reading a utah basketball article, let alone the comment section, in more than
half a decade. You can't see it if you are to humiliated to even read it.
Great to hear. The Runnin Utes are the premier basketball program in the state
of Utah. Their is no debate, let me know when your team makes a final four
appearance. Quick facts:UtahTournament Appearances:
27Tournament Champions: 1Final Four Appearances: 4Tournament
Record: 35-30One Win Seasons: 0BYUTournament
Appearances: 27Tournament Champions: 0Final Four Appearances: 0Tournament Record: 15-30One Win Seasons: 1Utah StateTournament Appearances: 20Tournament Champions: 0Final Four
Appearances: 0Tournament Record: 6-22One Win Seasons: 0
BamaDuckMiami, FloridaAll of the points you raise are
absolutely true. What you failed to understand from my post is that when this
schedule was put together two years ago, the thinking was that Utah would be
able to compete with this teams. Now, two years later, the Utes are blowing
them out. With that bit of context, the pre=conference competition the Utes
have this year is below them.Duck,I have read the articles and
even been to the games over the last few years. So, when I say..."I
haven't seen this much basketball smack from byu fans in years,"
it's based on experience. That said, it's great to have
you and your friends stop by now. It's wonderful knowing that byu fans
like yourself don't like what Utah is doing. Keep talking. btw...no one has said Utah doesn't have a long way to go. But, watching
our program turn around is indeed an enjoyable journey. So, thanks for the well
Are there plans to update the Huntsman Cneter and make it a little smaller?- So
Utah can fill the stadium? With all these big name preseason teams they have
coming in right now and for being such a dominating, and prestigious program
I'm surprised the Hunstman Center isn't at full capacity every time
they play tough teams like Evergreen, Grand Canyon etc.. Im pretty sure the SOS
is way off- no way Utah is ranked #350? right... But like I was saying if
the Huntamsn Cneter was smaller than Utah could have more sold out games in our
first 14 out of 15 games at home this year and then maybe we could change our
minds and dare to play super tought teams at home like Weber State in the
With this facility we will be in the final four every year! Another national
championship trophy for our display cases!
BYU fans, BYU fans everywhere... Now that I'm back in Utah and able to come
to the games, as well as working near the U, I'm exciting to see what these
facilities look like!Go Utes!
Also, for the very many BYU fans on here, congratulations on the win against
Texas. Apparently you own those guys, well done, that's a very good win.
Now come back and beat an even better Wichita State. You guys have plenty to
focus on, maybe that will get you off our boards. You guys are definitely a
good team with tourney hopes, and I respect your team. Can we now pleaaase talk
with some civility?
UteNationAlum"When Stanford, ASU, UCLA, and Oregon State come to
SLC to play you, let us know"It's extremely doubtful that
BYU will ever play any of those teams in SLC.btw, when was the last
time any of them won a national championship?
@no perspectiveOther than morbid interest, kinda like watching a
train wreck, none of my friends or myself cares what utah is doing. It is fun
though to point out how bad they have been to guys like you and it is a lot of
fun to read posts where you guys claim utah is as good or even better than BYU
at this point in time.When you guys claim BYU fans are scared or
concerned with what utah is doing it simply shows your own desperation, like I
said it is nothing more than a morbid interest for us. But it is fun, and that
truth I am sure you can understand even if you won't admit it on here. utah
"fans" like yourself take the same pleasure in pointing out the failures
and inadequacies of BYU's programs and look for any opportunity to try and
spin a false face of superiority. BYU also has a basketball facility
in the planning stages and it will no doubt be everything utahs is. The
difference is BYU already had good facilities and a top program so they dont
feel the sense of urgency the downtrodden utah program feels.
@jordanThey are not your boards. Take the good with the bad, that is
how it works.
gamerPROVO, UTI read the article again. Nope, no plans to
turn the Huntsman Center into a WCC gymnasium where the Cougs would be
comfortable playing.DuckhunterHighland, UTHmmmm...lots of words to satisfy a "morbid interest." You people are
using an article about a beautiful basketball facility at the University of Utah
to bag on the Utes. There seems to be more than just a morbid interest in play.
Also, I am aware that byu has a basketball facility in the planning
stages. Thank you bringing that to my attention. Holmoe announced the facility
right after Dr. Hill announced Utah's. Come to think of it, byu now has a
student section at the their football games that is remarkably similar to the
MUSS (including the 3rd down Jump...oops...I mean roar). Then, there's the
matter of the black uniforms byu rolled out last year. My goodness, Holmoe is
proficient at watching his neighbors. Imitation, as they say, is the most
sincere form of flattery. So, thank you byu!It won't make a
bit of difference, though...Utah's competition is the Pac-12, not byu.
Sorry, that's just the way it is.
@ Duckhunter"The difference is BYU already had good facilities
and a top program so they dont feel the sense of urgency the downtrodden utah
program feels."I'm sorry, in what universe does BYU have a
"top" program? The Cougs haven't won a conf. tournament since 2001.
They can't even get to the CCG in the West Coast Conference. Then there is
that fact that BYU has been to exactly ONE Sweet 16 in the past 32 years. That
is not the resume of a top program.
2ferSince when is winning a conference tournament the end-all-be-all
of having a successful program?BYU has won FOUR conference
championships and played in SIX NCAA tournaments in the last 8 seasons.Regardless of how you spin it, that dwarfs the measly one-and-done that the
have "accomplished" since the last remnants of the Majerus era left
Utah.Rose era (2005-06 to present)BYU 214-67(76%)Utah
121-137(47%)7 in a row, 11 of 12, 149-145 - BYU owns you in
@ anti BCSMy post had nothing to do with Utah, so I'm not sure
why you focused on the Utes in your reply to me. Also, I never said BYU was not
a successful program. My point: BYU is not a "top" program. There is no
spin, I simply provided evidence to support my claim.
It's priceless watching BYU fans backpedal and attempt to explain how they
really aren't desperately concerned with the steps forward in the Utah
program despite their uncontrollable urges to comment on a simple article about
a new facility.Obsessed much? Thanks for the interest, it helps us Ute
fans feel that much more comfortable about the direction the Utah program is
motorbikeCottonwood Heights, UTIt's priceless watching
BYU fans backpedal and attempt to explain how they really aren't
desperately concerned with the steps forward in the Utah program despite their
uncontrollable urges to comment on a simple article about a new facility.That is exactly what I'm thinking. The new basketball facility is
a perfect complement to the football facility and aligns perfectly with goals
and objectives of the Pac-12. I can see why byu fans are lit up about it. What
I don't get is why they continue to insist that Utah is their competition.
@no perspectiveActually BYU's facility has been planned for
many years, almost a decade. BYU has their own schedule for doing things, they
really don't care about utah's, but if thinking that helps prop up
your fragile ego then I'm ok with it.I suppose by your logic
utah's indoor practice facility and football center were a knee jerk
reaction to BYU's which were planned and built long before utah's?
Really motorbike? Come on you're better than that. You know how this game
is played on here, it is actually comments like yours and no perspectives that
come off sounding "frantic and emotional" not to mention desperate. But
I understand why, your program has been simply awful for more than half a
decade, truly terrible, one of the worst in all D1, and that has made you guys
more than a bit sensitive to it. It must be tough for you but I understand.On the bright side for you guys it appears they are at least beeter than
the naia and d3 teams they have been losing to over the last few years, that is
something I suppose. of course there is no way to know if they can compete with
an actual D1 team yet as they haven't played one but it appears there are a
couple of low end D1 teams coming up on the schedule so we'll see if utah
is ready to jump into the top 200 yet. It's a big leap from where
they've been but I really do think they can be a top 200 team.Good luck.
Duck, you are sounding a little frustrated and there's a hint of
desperation in the tone of your comments. There are two constants
in the college sports world: 1) Results change every year2)
Those who have not will always look up (way up) to those that haveYour response to Motorbike is answered by Constant #1 and your presence on the
Utah boards (especially this article) is explained by Constant #2You're the best, Duck...don't ever change.
Wow! That looks beautiful. New football facility---check New basketball
facility---check Being able to comepete---.... However in basketball's
defense they are improving. Football, not the case. Nice, pretty, new facilities
are great but it's not going to mean anything if we can't go out there
and win. GO UTES!!
@ LonestarRunnerLet me clarify not NCAA tourney first round exits
but actual runs in the NCAA Tourney. Utah has the third best record for deepest
run in the NCAA tourney on the West Coast. BYU's one and dones do not hold
a candle to the prodution Utah has had in NCAA Tourney. Funny part
BYU is claiming 3 trips to the Elite Eight when one of the years 1950 only 8
teams went to the NCAA tourney 1951 16 teams went big achievement to beat one
team in 1951 and 0 teams in 1950Utah is the only team in the nation
who can say that they not only have one the NCAA and NIT Championships but they
can also claim to have won the National AAU Tournament. Not even UCLA, Arizona,
and Kentucky can say that.
@ DuckhunterIf BYU is obviously quite good, borderline top 25 at
this point, and has more talent currently on the team than utah has had in the
last decade combined. Why cant they Beat the top 25 teams they have played?
Maybe because they are not as good as you think they are. Also in
the last decade Utah went to the Sweet 16 and had a #1 draft pick into the NBA.
What has BYU done but get bounced in the first round of the NCAA tourney?
The Utes will now lose in a really nice building. Excellent!
@crow"Why cant they Beat the top 25 teams they have
played?"Because those teams are better than they are. Pretty
easy to figure that out. We'll see how the season plays out however and
discuss then.Perhaps you can tell me why utah loses to so many of
the lower division teams it plays?But of course the real discussion
here BYU/utah so why not tell me why BYU has won 7 in a row and 11 of 12?
Duck"But of course the real discussion here BYU/utah so why not tell
me why BYU has won 7 in a row and 11 of 12?"No, Duck. The real
discussion is about Utah's new basketball facility and what it means to the
program long term. That's the discussion.As for the rest of
your post...you need to define "it and they." Then I will be able to
understand what you are talking about.
@ MyPerspectiveNot true. Everything is about BYU. Even though this
article may seem like it's about Utah building a new facility to help to
basketball program grow and compete, it's actually about how Utah is trying
to keep up with a facility BYU planned to build ten years ago. And of course,
like Duck said, the undertone of this article is clearly about BYU's upper
hand in the basketball rivalry lately.
LOL! You're right, Two For Flinching, byu is the center of its own
universe.Duck asserts that byu's basketball facility has been
planned for 10 years. Ok, so Where are the pictures and what is the completion
date, Duck? How is it that Utah can announce a facility, prepare the plans, set
a completion and launch a fund raiser in just two years? How can that possibly
be, Duck?Honestly, Two for Flinching, I don't think we'll
see Duck on this board again.
Let me get this straight. They are spending $36MM on the new basketball facility
yet only spending $6MM of that on improvements to the Huntsman Center itself?
They need to blow up that facility and build something that is much more fan
friendly. That would include seats that people can actually fit in. I have a
36" waist yet I barely fit in the seats. Now that it can't be used for
either the Men's Basketball tournament or the Women's gymnastics'
tournament totally renovate it so that those of us that have continued to go to
games through the lean times have a comfortable place to enjoy the Ute's
during the good times. It's probably too late since they have already
raised the money.