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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 27 2013 11:07 p.m. MST

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benjoginko
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I for one would rather freely give $100.00 to the food bank than $20.00 taken from me in taxes. I'm pretty sure a much Higher percentage of my money would go to the needy that was given to the food bank than the money the government takes from me. I also imagine those who receive food from the food bank are more thankful for that than money they receive from SNAP.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

The USDA says there is about $750 million in food stamp fraud each year. If I were a betting man, I would multiply that by 10 times and I would be pretty accurate. Don't believe it? Ask any grocery store clerk! In addition, I can purchase EBT cards on the street in any larger city for pennies on the dollar so the seller can buy crack and meth! What's Obama's solution? Double the food stamps, quadruple the fraud!

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

$4 trillion spent on Iraq.

Government shutdown $24 billion.

47 failed attempts to repeal the ACA, $50 million.

And the needy, starve.

Wrong priorities.

worf
Mcallen, TX

We've become a nation of beggars.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Thank goodness we spent $4 trillion dollars on Iraq.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

You know, things are a bit thin for us this year, too.
We've had to cut back far more than the food stamp cuts just to get by.
Why don't you write something about the plight of the self-reliant?
Then again, when your source material comes from MSNBC I might as well be talking to the wall.
What has become of the Deseret News?

intervention
slc, UT

lets have a little reality check here. according the USDA food stamp fraud has actually dropped over the past decade from 4 cents of every dollar to 1 cent per every dollar. second, food stamps provides 1.40 per person per meal, if you think people on food stamps are living high and mighty on your tax dollars you may want to think again and third , even if mountain man's claims about buying food stamps on the streets were correct by his on estimate of "pennies on the dollar" it would mean that those trying to commit fraud would be making 1.4 cents per meal they sold, hardly a booming industry. We should do everything we can to stop fraud as it takes away resources to those that need them the most but lets not pretend that all food stamp recipients are nothing but money hungry vultures living high on the hog.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'The $2.5 Trillion tragedy: What America has given up for 10 years of Bush tax cuts' -
By Zaid Jilani – Think Progress – 07/07/11

'While doing so, Bush promised prosperity and growth, but the nation got neither.

The cost of these budget-busting 2001 and 2003 tax cuts was, as estimated by Citizens for Tax Justice, roughly $2.5 trillion through 2010.'

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Pagan. Every American who pays federal income taxes got a tax cut under President Bush. Even though I am not rich, I liked my tax cut very much because, I always thought it was MY money and not the government's money since I actually worked for it! In any event. GWB is not the President today and hasn't been for nearly 6 years. Meanwhile under Obama the national debt has jumped by over $7 trillion which is more than the total increase during the 8 Bush years even with the tax cut! Obama gave us all a tax increase but that hasn't slowed the growth of the national debt, in fact it has accelerated under Obama! Blaming Bush for Obama's failures is getting a bit old, don't you think?

worf
Mcallen, TX

@Pagan;

Over seventy percent of the worlds weapons have come from this country---UN website

Billions of tax dollars were recently used to send fighter jets, helicopters, and tanks to Egypt, Indonesia, and South Korea. Mexican Cartels have American guns.

Fifteen thousand Americans are still in Iraq. Afghanistan is still a war zone.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

@intervention

Please don't confuse Republicans with a reality check.

Thanks.

worf
Mcallen, TX

More than half our people are on their knees begging for food is shameful. Our children being fed at school? Un-American!

A fact of our government having poor & corrupt leadership!

Can't spin this any other way. Blame, blame, blame, by uninformed minds will not fix this.

BroJoseph
Ogden, UT

For behold, are we not all beggars? Do we not all depend upon the same Being, even God, for all the substance which we have, for both food and raiment, and for gold, and for silver, and for all the riches which we have of every kind?

And if ye judge the man who putteth up his petition to you for your substance that he perish not, and condemn him, how much more just will be your condemnation for withholding your substance, which doth not belong to you but to God, to whom also your life belongeth; and yet ye put up no petition, nor repent of the thing which thou hast done.

I say unto you, wo be unto that man, for his substance shall perish with him; and now, I say these things unto those who are rich as pertaining to the things of this world

high school fan
Huntington, UT

Go to any convenience store almost anywhere and watch what is being bought with food stamps and you will see the abuse going on. It would be interesting to see the difference between the truly needy and the a users, a figure that probably is much higher than one suspects.

Itsjstmeagain
Merritt Island, Fl

Fraud is what, 5%? So the TP put everyone else in the cattle cars and ship them out.

It's not the Govt. money? You are the Government and are responsible for the wellfare of the Nation. When will we stop the ME,ME,ME mentality? Pope Francis was right, we lost sight of the Christian message and now it is just greed, greed. WHo knows, you might soon be the richest person in the graveyard.

If the greddy are sitting down for Thanksgiving dinner, please don't. Your wealth most likely came at the expense of those you shun, and ignoring what made you successful with educated people, a good infrastructure and don't forget all of the Govt and quasi Govt programs that aide your business developement.

Go to a homeless shelter and donate your warm clothes, someone needs them more than you.

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

Conservatives complain and complain and complain yet literally do nothing to fix the undeniable truth that 1) corporate profits are at record highs, 2) American workers are more productive than ever before, yet 3) more American workers (yes, workers) are forced to use SNAP out of necessity.

If they had an ounce of integrity or a shred of sincerity in their hollow claims that they want to "teach people to be independent" then they'd fight with liberals to raise the minimum wage.

Mountanman (sic)

3 things:

1 - I'd take that bet and you'd lose.

2 - It appears you're from Idaho, a severe net debtor in federal taxes. So, I've paid to educate you, I've paid for the roads you drive on, I've paid for the clean air you breath, among so many other things. You owe a debt to society, your entire paycheck is not "yours".

3 - Please, name a time in your life in which the effective tax rate for the majority of Americans was lower than it is now. Tax rates are at near-historic lows, seems you have a personal finance management issue. Stop blaming the government for your inability to budget.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Stalwart..News flash: there are other taxes many of them hidden taxes and now....drumroll...there are Obamacare taxes! SCOTUS says so! We do not have near historic lows in taxation! Among other taxes, we have the highest corporate taxes in the world and guess who actually gets those taxes passed on in higher costs of goods? Nice try, but you are completely wrong!

Abe
Longmont, CO

Lets not forget the other critical welfare handouts our government is so found of doling out:
• $220 million in credits for Puerto Rican rum distillers
• $12 billion for wind-farm energy producers
• $250 million for Hollywood film production
• $62 million for employers in American Samoa, principally StarKist, the largest company in the South Pacific island
• $330 million for the railroad industry
• $78 million for Nascar racetrack construction

The average SNAP cut is 7%
The average wage cut in 2013 is 8%
The average Tax increase for the working is 2%

Its all good!

Abe
Longmont, CO

On March 16, 1964, President Lyndon Johnson declared war on poverty in the United States. He created large-scale national programs aimed at helping the poor and needy that consumed nearly 1.2 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product. The programs were meant to be temporary, short-term investments. Instead they have become permanent fixtures in government programming and spawned the creation of dozens more programs over the years. Today, spending on welfare programs is 13 times greater than it was in 1964.
Obama’s 2011 budget requests that food stamps spending rise from $39 billion to $75 billion. Obama’s 2011 budget also requests these expansions be made permanent. In addition, eligibility for this program was expanded. Within President Obama’s first year in office, food stamp rolls grew by over 5 million people—the single largest increase in a one-year period in over three decades.

Can you say EPIC FAILURE!!

TexasCoug
Midland, TX

I for one have higher taxes than ever this past year with the so called "tax relief act" which congress and the President both allowed to happen. The government is not a solution to our problems, except for the most unfortunate that are unable to provide for themselves. I for one have seen plenty of food stamp abuse personally with friends. I have clients on Medicaid- most likely on food stamps- who have nicer phones (which my tax dollars probably paid for) than me. And they refuse to show up for appointments which they don't have to pay a dime for. I would love to help the most needy, which I do, but I do not want more of my money going to a corrupt government (not just Democrats), who is not fiscally responsible and gives unnecessary assistance to those who don't know how to manage their money.

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