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Published: Monday, Nov. 25 2013 10:30 p.m. MST

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TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

Both Programs are in trouble....neither coach knows how to recruit and win.....with all the great talent there is out there, too many are not being recruited by BYU or Utah! No excuse for it! Fire Bronco and Whit!

Sore loser
tampa, fl

I once heard a saying: When ifs and buts are candy and nuts we'll all have a merry Christmas.

When you think you already won the game before the ball is put into play, why play the game at all. That's Alabama disease, where they still think they beat Utah, they just didn't try but they are still the wiener.

There is way too much hype around BYU. They had a great team on paper but I think they are being brainwashed into winning the game before they play it and then not competing at game time.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Utah is the 10th best team in the Pac 12. And Utah owns byu and usu.

Sad state of football for our state.

Sore loser
tampa, fl

Every Notre Dame player on the field wore short sleeves and nothing else. BYU however were dressed in many layers. It must have felt for the Irish like hitting a styrofoam cooler when they made contact with the Cougars.

Filthy Kuffar
Spanish Fork, UT

BYU at least had some creative plays during their game. Utah is the same old offense: run up the gut on 1st down, run up the gut on 2nd down, attempt a pass on 3rd down, punt on 4th. They always have the same formation with the RB to the right or left of the QB. No I formation, no pro sets, just the same look on every down. I miss the Urban Myers days when they had a bunch of different plays, mis-directions, shovel passes, hook and ladder, and different formations. It's time for a shake-up in the coaching up on the hill. It's boring to watch the same plays with the same results. I won't spend another dime going to a Utah football game until the coaches either get creative, or they get a pink slip.

ex patria cougar
Australia, 00

It is truly sad, tragic really. I appreciate this article putting it all into perspective for me. Nothing has a more profound impact on my life than college football -- except for college basketball, and that is where I have now turned my hopes for happiness.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

All four of BYU's losses were by 10 points or less. A play here, a touchdown there or a big defense stop at a key time were the difference between an 11-0 or 10-1 record and BYU's actual 7-4 record.

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Stop it! You guys say that EVERY year.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

"...former Auburn head coach Gene Chizik won a national championship in 2010 only to be fired two seasons later after finishing 3-9. Chizik got just one losing season, and Whittingham already has two.

Anyone really think he'll still be around if the Utes make it three?"

hands?

Utah's 2014 Football Schedule
Idaho State - win
Fresno State - toss up
at Michigan - loss
Oregon State - toss up
at UCLA - loss
at Stanford - loss
Arizona - toss up
Southern Cal - loss
at Arizona State - loss
Oregon - loss
Washington State - toss up
at Colorado - toss up

1 win
6 losses
5 tossups

The Utes will have to sweep Utah's tossups in order to save Kyle's job.

Cool Cat Cosmo
Payson, UT

It's REALLY sad when Chris and I agree, because he's right: if all the Utes can brag about is beating us and the Aggies (2 game out of an entire season...and I'll even throw in the Stanford win), then things really are especially bad for the U.

At least BYU still has something to play for in the post-season, with a bowl game against a quality PAC-12 team (likely Washington, if you believe the sports pundits). All the Utes have to look forward to is their 'storied' rivalry with Colorado...hoping not to lose and claim the official "PAC-12 Doormat-of-the-year" award.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

In my opinion (it doesn't really matter)
If Utah throws a few less key interceptions and they have a great year.
BYU learns how to execute and score touchdowns they have a great year.
Both of these schools have struggled, but there is hope.
Fix the mistakes that have plagued them and they will have bright futures.

1978
Salt Lake City, UT

At the beginning of the season I predicted that BYU would finish with a 7-5 record and Utah would finish at 6-6. I based that on their schedule and on youth and inexperience at key positions.

For Utah - Arizona and Washington State turned out to be much better than I expected. The Stanford win was amazing but the Oregon State loss at home was a huge disappointment.

For BYU - I never expected a loss to Virginia or win against Texas and was doubtful about Boise St as well as Utah State on the road.

Utah slightly underperformed and BYU slightly overperformed. I don't think I would call either season a disaster however.

Next year with more experience on offense for BYU and fewer QB problems for Utah the seasons for both schools should be better

Utes home for the holidays
Sandy, UT

Uteology - The writer is saying it, not a byu fan

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Stop it! You ute "fans" pay more attention to byu EVERY year.

Oh, Brunswick called, they are holding out hope ute fans/players will accept the bowling invitation they just extended.

holy moly
Herrmian, UT

Its Karma... Until BYU and Utah fans can get along this is what they get...

Mark it Down!!! :)

Staythecourse
Ogden, UT

Chris B

Speaking of OWN, when are you going to OWN up to your guarantees that were miscalculated.

Who says"I told ya" before the game is even over?

Own up!!!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

This turned out to be a pretty typical year for byu: Lose to your rival, beat the nobodies and lose to all the ranked teams you play(end of season rankings are the only rankings that matter and since we're not at end of season our best guess is current rankings).

In fact, in the last 4 years, guess how many TOTAL wins against ranked(again, only end of season rankings matter) teams byu has?

1 win. 4 YEARS.

Utah state is the ONLY ranked(only end rankings matter) team byu won in the last FOUR YEARS!

LOL

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Utah is in a league that they don't belong, especially when you consider all sports, not just football. They rounded out the league to 12 teams so a play-off would be permitted. They are fodder for the PAC 12. They got lucky when Stanford looked past them. The same was true when they beat TCU in 2008. Both games came down to the last play and the Ute defense played well. How well did that same defense do at Washington State last Saturday, or at Arizona, Oregon, USC, etc? I agree their schedule is a killer---one where they can't compete except to maybe defeat Colorado and stay out of the basement. How'd that work in 2011 in SLC?

BYU just didn't execute when they should. Fans deserve better from them. They need an infusion of a killer instinct. They're just too gentlemanly too often, as well as being undisciplined with regards to drive-killing penalties. Talent is there---the coaching lacks direction at times regarding motivation to win.

RSLfanalways
West Valley, UT

I like how the article talks about BYU and Ute's but not USU, but USU goal was to make it into the MWC Championship and it looks like they are going to fulfill that goal even with all the injuries. Too bad the Ute's couldn't adapt after their injuries. Coaching is the major factor why Ute's could not adapt. It will be nice having two post season games to watch. Go USU and RSL, the only two Utah teams that have done better than what people thought.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

@ Chris B:

The "sad state of football in the state of Utah" is mostly in your own mind by falling short in so many predictions, and even promises this season.

Utah was better than USU and BYU on 2 particular days this season. That doesn't necessarily means they are overall better. The Sagarin rankings at the end of the season determine that. It takes account every measurable statistic there is... including strength of schedule and head to head competition. We'll know next week which team in the state had the best overall season, rather than trying to pin everything on just 2 games.

You obviously don't have any idea what "owning" another team means. BYU has streaks beating Utah and Utah has streaks beating BYU. It goes back and forth and has done so for many decades. The closest any team came to owning the other is when LaVell Edwards came onboard and BYU beat Utah 19 of the next 21 games. But that's history too.

Saying anyone's team owns anyone else is merely opinion. But one indisputable fact is that Utah might be the 12th best team in the PAC12, depending on what happens next Saturday.

CincyRed13
SLC, UT

Chris,

You make it hard to cheer for the Utes. It's time to accept the fact that the Utes are not good. They beat BYU because they were a better team in September. They are not the better team now. It's okay to be wrong and it's okay to admit fault. Stop living in the past and learn to accept the present.

Lone Star Cougar
Plano, TX

Chris B,

Are you dizzy yet for all the spinning you are doing?

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