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High school football: Bingham O-line plows the way for Miners' 5A title win

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  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Nov. 29, 2013 10:32 a.m.

    @T-birds to win
    I agree, Got to see Barry live in San Francisco before he hung it up and it was a shame to see him get dominated because they stunk so bad, but for me Walter Payton is the greatest RB to every play the game.

  • T-birds to win Provo / Utah, UT
    Nov. 28, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    As far as running backs go, they are both very good. One other thing to consider in analyzing these two running backs is the fact that Binghams offensive line is soo much better than Lehi's. Had Calton had that O-line in front of him,who knows what he could have done. I still to this day believe Barry Sanders is the Greatest Running Back I have ever seen play the game, and he done that with a horrible offensive line at Detroit, and I'm a Dallas fan, but you have to respect great players regardless of the teams they play for.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Nov. 27, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    @tharef
    Then lets hear what best and biggest teams this kid from Lehi played against.

  • razorback South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 9:37 p.m.

    And there were some interesting comments on Jordan and Alta.

    As for Alta's record, they lost four games to teams playing in 5A and 4A championship games last Friday, one team that lost at RES the week before and a NJ team.

    Jordan lost four games to three teams playing in 5A and 4A championship games last Friday and two games to CA teams.

    In this case, records don't tell the whole story. No intelligent remarks can be made about their records without addressing the strength of schedule.

    Alta was a good team (18 other 5A teams couldn't get to the quarterfinals) and Jordan was better than good (22 other 5A teams couldn't get to the semifinals).

  • razorback South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 9:25 p.m.

    As it happens, Bingham and Lehi played three common opponents: Riverton, Herriman and Lone Peak. So why not compare the two running backs' performances against the three common opponents. Using stats from this web-site.

    Nichols - 491 yds, 62 carries, 7.9 yds/carry, 7 TD's
    Calton - 516 yds, 90 carries, 5.7 yds/carry, 6 TD's

    Nichols wins in TD's and yds/carry, where he was 40% more effective. Calton did gain 27 more yards (with an extra 28 carries), but he was playing these three games till the horn sounded while Nichols spent the 4th quarter against LP and Riverton sitting on the bench drinking gatorade.

    No need to argue about the rest of the schedule when these three common opponents make the case.

  • Gunner South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    Do you really think Dixie, Spanish Fork,Murray would have beat Jordan, or Alta? That's the point. Just cause those teams weren't great, they were a far sight better than the teams the kid from Lehi played against.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Nov. 26, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    @Pigskinfan
    You think with all that D1 prowess he would have won the state championship walking in his sleep and not some undersized kid with only intramural skills. Hmm maybe he isn't all that and a bag of chips.

  • tharef Sandy, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 2:06 p.m.

    Not once did I compare bingham and Lehis schedule. NOT ONCE. I was comparing RB's not schedules. I refered to the teams that Bingham played in thier region. All I was doing was responding to Gunner on Nichols facing the Best and Bigger teams in Region 3. Ya see, Region 3 teams sucked and if ya try and argue that with me your insane dude. Do you think that 7-6 Jordan team was any good (NO) , what about that 5-6 Alta team and anything outside the top 4 teams in Region 3 are awful so the best and Biggest doesn't work.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Nov. 26, 2013 11:59 a.m.

    @tharef
    No doubt that Lehi kid is good, but please really comparing who Lehi played to Bingham is ridiculous. And Nichols would have gained well over 2500 yds against their schedule c'mon. Murray alone he would have ran for 400-500 yds I'm guessing if he would have been in the game more than a quarter.

  • Gunner South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 6:07 p.m.

    Then lets put it this way. Bigger and Better than anything Lehi played.

  • Gunner South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 5:57 p.m.

    So 3 out of the final 4 in 5A came from what region again? The Lehi kid is good. But come on, he was playing against 3A competition. Any of the 5A teams Bingham played would have beat Dixie! That same Riverton team that was so horrible beat Dixie 57-24. That Dixie team beat Lehi 57-28! So yeah, some of the teams Bingham beat weren't great. But they beat 7 of the final 8 teams left in the 5A playoffs!

  • tharef Sandy, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 5:01 p.m.

    Thats cool I just went with a trusted source Max Preps. Thats all. I'm pretty sure Des News has a pretty good stataticion. Uh Hmm Bonneville Idaho 4A 6-4 ranked 3434 Nationally. So who were the best and biggest Bingham went up against. Jordan Haha 7-6 Alta 5-6 Haha. ok Riverton 8-3 Not the biggest or the best who else ya got Lone Peak 8-5 ok, they handed Bingham a couple of loses in years past who else? Valor and Brighton were the only two teams that had more than 9 wins this season on thier schedule. I hear how Region 3 was the most dominante ya against the ohter three but in reality it stunk. Brighton and Bingham were the only two team with 8 or more wins. So the Biggest and Best doesn't work my friend.

  • Gunner South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 3:27 p.m.

    Actually Tharef, according to the D News stats, Nichols had 1832 yards and 20 rushing TD's. And he wasn't playing against the likes of 3A Dixie and 4A Spanish fork. I'll give my nod to the kid that put similar numbers up against the best and biggest.

  • tharef Sandy, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 2:37 p.m.

    @ Jarka-rus.

    It was a great win for Bingham my hat goes off to them Congrats. Now for the debate issue on who the best RB is in the state, In your opinion it is obviously Scott Nichols, I have to go with the kid down there in Lehi.. So here are the numbers just in rushing between these two

    1- Caden Calton Lehi Jr. 10 games played 1954 yards. 7.4 yards/carry 24 rushing TD's 25 total

    2- Scott Nichols Bingham Sr. 13 games played 1491 7.6 yrds/carry 19 rushing TD's 22 total TD's
    Now hers the kicker

    3_ Brandon Farmer Herriman Sr. 11 games played 1,715 yards 8.6 yards/Carry 17 rushing TD's 20 total.

    So to sum this up Scott played in more games then Brandon and Caden The eye ball test goes to Caden I have seen these 3 play. And he has a gift just like Scott does. but thats the top 3 RB's in the state of Utah all in the 5A mind you.

  • Gunner South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 1:23 p.m.

    Porkpies: Great, when he does come back on and talk about it. Until then, he can enjoy 2nd place!

  • porkpies SANDY, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    Guys, high school glory only lasts so long, if it doesn't take you somewhere bigger it's just that, High School glory after a few years nobody remembers and nobody cares. Osa is going somewhere bigger, it's just the facts.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Nov. 25, 2013 10:03 a.m.

    Pig Skin Fan
    What Gunner said lol

    I'm sure Scottie isn't worried about what you think of him being undersized, he's got the ring and player of the game and ran circles around a D1 player twice! Bingham's D made Osa look one dimensional, he can't make cuts, can't break tackles, he can run straight if he has a huge hole that's it. Imagine what a college D will do to him.

  • Gunner South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    Osa can come back all he want's. Scottie has a ring!

  • Pig Skin Fan Syracuse, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    jarka-rus
    Layton, Utah

    Osa who? Scottie "Superman" Nichols.

    Osa will be back to dominated the State next year. Play D1 football . Top D1 recruit in 2015 Class.

    Nichols last football game was last Saturday. Maybe college Intermurals or Church ball to look forward to. This is the future for undersized prep players.

  • porkpies SANDY, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    I love my Bengals, but we didn't do anything well, we were beat in all phases of the game and the Miners deserve all the praise they get. What a fantastic season of high school football.

  • Gunner South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 23, 2013 12:44 p.m.

    Pig Skin: Brighton had 8 guys in the box the entire 2nd half. It could be they didn't put bigger lineman there, because they didn't have big enough lineman to put there. Having to play kids both ways has been an issue for teams going against Bingham all year long. By the 4th qtr, they are spent! Bingham's O Line and consistent running attack just wore Brighton down. That and the face Bingham's O Line was dominating the line of scrimmage. I don't know how many times #72 pulled on that counter trap play and just trucked the tackle coming up the field. Watch the first TD again. He bulldozes that D tackle from Brighton. Great to be a Miner!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 23, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    Way to go Miners, Congrats!

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Nov. 23, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    MINER PRIDE!!! Great job Miners! Osa who? Scottie "Superman" Nichols is the best RB in the state!! Bingham's O-line is the most dominant in the state and the #1 defense in the state. Even with Kyle getting knocked out of the game Bingham showed why they are the #1 team and 5A state champions, what a privilege it was to watch this team this year, Congrats to Coach Peck and the staff for a 4th state championship. They left no doubt.

    @Pigskinfan, whatever, Bingham is the reason they got blowed over, the better most dominant team won, save the excuses for next year. Coach Peck told the team at the half that leaders and champions don't use excuses, they reach for the star and grab it.

  • wolvie23 Salt Lake, UT
    Nov. 23, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    Bingham has the best O-Line AND D-Line in the state. Undefeated baby!!!

  • Pig Skin Fan Syracuse, UT
    Nov. 23, 2013 12:14 a.m.

    Brighton helped Bingham out by running what looked like a 3-5 chicago bears defense. Beef up the defense line would have helped, make some adjustments a defense. This is why they got blowed over. Brighton will be better next year if they run a 4 or 5 man front line against power house running teams like Bingham and Herriman. Get more meat up front.

    Don't copy BYU, da Bears, or Stealers you don't have the personnel.