@T-birds to winI agree, Got to see Barry live in San Francisco before he
hung it up and it was a shame to see him get dominated because they stunk so
bad, but for me Walter Payton is the greatest RB to every play the game.
As far as running backs go, they are both very good. One other thing to consider
in analyzing these two running backs is the fact that Binghams offensive line is
soo much better than Lehi's. Had Calton had that O-line in front of him,who
knows what he could have done. I still to this day believe Barry Sanders is the
Greatest Running Back I have ever seen play the game, and he done that with a
horrible offensive line at Detroit, and I'm a Dallas fan, but you have to
respect great players regardless of the teams they play for.
@tharefThen lets hear what best and biggest teams this kid from Lehi
And there were some interesting comments on Jordan and Alta.As for
Alta's record, they lost four games to teams playing in 5A and 4A
championship games last Friday, one team that lost at RES the week before and a
NJ team.Jordan lost four games to three teams playing in 5A and 4A
championship games last Friday and two games to CA teams.In this
case, records don't tell the whole story. No intelligent remarks can be
made about their records without addressing the strength of schedule.Alta was a good team (18 other 5A teams couldn't get to the
quarterfinals) and Jordan was better than good (22 other 5A teams couldn't
get to the semifinals).
As it happens, Bingham and Lehi played three common opponents: Riverton,
Herriman and Lone Peak. So why not compare the two running backs'
performances against the three common opponents. Using stats from this
web-site.Nichols - 491 yds, 62 carries, 7.9 yds/carry, 7
TD'sCalton - 516 yds, 90 carries, 5.7 yds/carry, 6 TD'sNichols wins in TD's and yds/carry, where he was 40% more effective.
Calton did gain 27 more yards (with an extra 28 carries), but he was playing
these three games till the horn sounded while Nichols spent the 4th quarter
against LP and Riverton sitting on the bench drinking gatorade.No
need to argue about the rest of the schedule when these three common opponents
make the case.
Do you really think Dixie, Spanish Fork,Murray would have beat Jordan, or Alta?
That's the point. Just cause those teams weren't great, they were a
far sight better than the teams the kid from Lehi played against.
@PigskinfanYou think with all that D1 prowess he would have won the state
championship walking in his sleep and not some undersized kid with only
intramural skills. Hmm maybe he isn't all that and a bag of chips.
Not once did I compare bingham and Lehis schedule. NOT ONCE. I was comparing
RB's not schedules. I refered to the teams that Bingham played in thier
region. All I was doing was responding to Gunner on Nichols facing the Best and
Bigger teams in Region 3. Ya see, Region 3 teams sucked and if ya try and argue
that with me your insane dude. Do you think that 7-6 Jordan team was any good
(NO) , what about that 5-6 Alta team and anything outside the top 4 teams in
Region 3 are awful so the best and Biggest doesn't work.
@tharefNo doubt that Lehi kid is good, but please really comparing who
Lehi played to Bingham is ridiculous. And Nichols would have gained well over
2500 yds against their schedule c'mon. Murray alone he would have ran for
400-500 yds I'm guessing if he would have been in the game more than a
Then lets put it this way. Bigger and Better than anything Lehi played.
So 3 out of the final 4 in 5A came from what region again? The Lehi kid is
good. But come on, he was playing against 3A competition. Any of the 5A teams
Bingham played would have beat Dixie! That same Riverton team that was so
horrible beat Dixie 57-24. That Dixie team beat Lehi 57-28! So yeah, some of
the teams Bingham beat weren't great. But they beat 7 of the final 8 teams
left in the 5A playoffs!
Thats cool I just went with a trusted source Max Preps. Thats all. I'm
pretty sure Des News has a pretty good stataticion. Uh Hmm Bonneville Idaho 4A
6-4 ranked 3434 Nationally. So who were the best and biggest Bingham went up
against. Jordan Haha 7-6 Alta 5-6 Haha. ok Riverton 8-3 Not the biggest or the
best who else ya got Lone Peak 8-5 ok, they handed Bingham a couple of loses in
years past who else? Valor and Brighton were the only two teams that had more
than 9 wins this season on thier schedule. I hear how Region 3 was the most
dominante ya against the ohter three but in reality it stunk. Brighton and
Bingham were the only two team with 8 or more wins. So the Biggest and Best
doesn't work my friend.
Actually Tharef, according to the D News stats, Nichols had 1832 yards and 20
rushing TD's. And he wasn't playing against the likes of 3A Dixie and
4A Spanish fork. I'll give my nod to the kid that put similar numbers up
against the best and biggest.
@ Jarka-rus. It was a great win for Bingham my hat goes off to them
Congrats. Now for the debate issue on who the best RB is in the state, In your
opinion it is obviously Scott Nichols, I have to go with the kid down there in
Lehi.. So here are the numbers just in rushing between these two 1-
Caden Calton Lehi Jr. 10 games played 1954 yards. 7.4 yards/carry 24 rushing
TD's 25 total2- Scott Nichols Bingham Sr. 13 games played 1491
7.6 yrds/carry 19 rushing TD's 22 total TD'sNow hers the
kicker3_ Brandon Farmer Herriman Sr. 11 games played 1,715 yards 8.6
yards/Carry 17 rushing TD's 20 total. So to sum this up Scott
played in more games then Brandon and Caden The eye ball test goes to Caden I
have seen these 3 play. And he has a gift just like Scott does. but thats the
top 3 RB's in the state of Utah all in the 5A mind you.
Porkpies: Great, when he does come back on and talk about it. Until then, he
can enjoy 2nd place!
Guys, high school glory only lasts so long, if it doesn't take you
somewhere bigger it's just that, High School glory after a few years nobody
remembers and nobody cares. Osa is going somewhere bigger, it's just the
Pig Skin FanWhat Gunner said lolI'm sure Scottie
isn't worried about what you think of him being undersized, he's got
the ring and player of the game and ran circles around a D1 player twice!
Bingham's D made Osa look one dimensional, he can't make cuts,
can't break tackles, he can run straight if he has a huge hole that's
it. Imagine what a college D will do to him.
Osa can come back all he want's. Scottie has a ring!
jarka-rusLayton, UtahOsa who? Scottie "Superman"
Nichols.Osa will be back to dominated the State next year. Play D1
football . Top D1 recruit in 2015 Class.Nichols last football game
was last Saturday. Maybe college Intermurals or Church ball to look forward to.
This is the future for undersized prep players.
I love my Bengals, but we didn't do anything well, we were beat in all
phases of the game and the Miners deserve all the praise they get. What a
fantastic season of high school football.
Pig Skin: Brighton had 8 guys in the box the entire 2nd half. It could be they
didn't put bigger lineman there, because they didn't have big enough
lineman to put there. Having to play kids both ways has been an issue for teams
going against Bingham all year long. By the 4th qtr, they are spent!
Bingham's O Line and consistent running attack just wore Brighton down.
That and the face Bingham's O Line was dominating the line of scrimmage. I
don't know how many times #72 pulled on that counter trap play and just
trucked the tackle coming up the field. Watch the first TD again. He bulldozes
that D tackle from Brighton. Great to be a Miner!
Way to go Miners, Congrats!
MINER PRIDE!!! Great job Miners! Osa who? Scottie "Superman" Nichols is
the best RB in the state!! Bingham's O-line is the most dominant in the
state and the #1 defense in the state. Even with Kyle getting knocked out of the
game Bingham showed why they are the #1 team and 5A state champions, what a
privilege it was to watch this team this year, Congrats to Coach Peck and the
staff for a 4th state championship. They left no doubt.@Pigskinfan,
whatever, Bingham is the reason they got blowed over, the better most dominant
team won, save the excuses for next year. Coach Peck told the team at the half
that leaders and champions don't use excuses, they reach for the star and
Bingham has the best O-Line AND D-Line in the state. Undefeated baby!!!
Brighton helped Bingham out by running what looked like a 3-5 chicago bears
defense. Beef up the defense line would have helped, make some adjustments a
defense. This is why they got blowed over. Brighton will be better next year if
they run a 4 or 5 man front line against power house running teams like Bingham
and Herriman. Get more meat up front.Don't copy BYU, da Bears,
or Stealers you don't have the personnel.