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Published: Friday, Nov. 22 2013 6:55 p.m. MST

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duggity
Bountiful, UT

Only once in my life have I ever had a flu shot, and I got so sick I lost 15 pounds that week. And I only weighed 135 at the time at 5'10". That was the sickest I have ever been in my life. I will not ever subject my children to the dangers of this scam, and I encourage everyone out there to avoid this. It is not safe. There needs to be real research done on this instead of "government research," where the focus is on how to avoid taking blame rather than fixing the problem.

Kralon
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

There are deaths related to flu vaccines, mostly among people with egg allergies, but the deaths from contracting the flu virus are much higher. Deaths from contracting flu are highly variable each year and range from about 3,000 to 50,000 in the U.S. over the last 40 years.

Sorry her son died, which is sad regardless of the cause. Parents hope to die before their children, but we don't have that much control in life.

Nothing is perfectly safe in life and we all choose to play the odds as we understand them. When I was a kid I had a neighbor who walked down the sidewalk, fell off the curb and died. Can't completely predict or protect ourselves from low probability events.

maryif
San Diego, CA

"Another state health official late Friday offered a statement.“Our epidemiology staff have commented that although they have no evidence of a flu vaccine, or any other kind of vaccine, causing this type of reaction/outcome, they take these reports very seriously and they are thoroughly investigated by the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention),” the statement read."
- And who is this "other state health official"??

Good luck with the CDC.. they are basically owned by the pharmaceutical companies the same as any billion dollar multinational controls/influences the governing offices dictating the laws detrimental/beneficial to their profit margins.

A four-month investigation by United Press International found a pattern of serious problems linked to vaccines recommended by the CDC -- and a web of close ties between the agency and the companies that make vaccines.

Critics say those ties are an unholy alliance in a war against disease where vaccine side effects have damaged, hurt or killed people, mostly children.

"The CDC is a disgrace. It is a corrupt organization," said Stephen A. Sheller, a Philadelphia attorney who has sued vaccine makers for what he says were bad vaccines. "The drug companies have them on their payroll."

IDAHO-UTE
chubbuck, ID

Very tragic the loss of this young man! Being a father of three beautiful children I could never imagine the pain. I get my flu shot every year, and will continue to do so. The risk of the actual Influenza virus (often mistaken for other causes of infection) is too great. Because people in close proximity to my 7 week old baby girl last year opted to not get the flu shot, she ended up in the hospital for 6 days and it almost killed her. There is risk any time you take a needle and inject something into the body. There is risk associated with using airbags in a car, but I sure would not go and disconnect them.

Medical Student
Glendale, AZ

First off, I would like to express my condolences to the Webb family. This is a tradgedy, no matter what the cause.

Duggity,

How do you know that the flu vaccine caused your illness, other than the fact that your illness occurred shortly after getting a flu shot? Your experience doesn't prove a cause-and-effect relationship. And how can you be so sure that the science backing vaccines is tainted by the government. The researchers who study this stuff number in the tens of thousands. They belong to numerous organizations. How do you suppose that the government has total control of all of them?

That said, I like to keep an open mind. If this young man's death was caused by the flu vaccine, I would hope that it would lead to further research into how we can reduce such reactions.

Antibiotics occasionally cause fatal allergic reactions, and yet they have saved untold millions of lives. Just a thought.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

WHile the individual death is a tragedy, especially for the family, this is similar to the allegations by some that maybe you should not wear a seat belt because you might be trapped in a car if it went into a river or something.

Perhaps the fears have some validity, but the odds are very heavily in favor of getting flu shots and wearing seat belts.

Many more people will die if life saving measures are denied to those who want them.

However, people SHOULD be free to chose not to participate in flu shots or wearing seat belts--- and to be held solely responsible for the possible adverse outcomes.

Laura Ann
Layton, UT

My grandmother showed me a picture of my Aunt Vivian when I went to visit her when I was a girl. She was two years old and looked really pretty, but I wondered why her eyes were closed. She was dead from the flu. This was the only picture they had of her. If only they had had the vaccine back then she would have probably not died. I would have had the wonder of having her in my life. I still remember my grandmother's tears and her telling me: 'I can't talk about this anymore.'

Kora
Cedar Hills, UT

Duggity- is that evidence? I never had a kidney stone until I went to Italy. Should I warn everyone that Italy causes kidney stones? I hear people all the time present anecdotal stories about how something made them sick all based on timing with no actual evidence. If we practiced medicine that way, more people would die, and at a younger age. It is this alarmist attitude that costs lives. Look at the whole "vaccines cause autism" argument. This has been debunked over and over again, yet people still avoid vaccines for their kids and we encounter measles outbreaks, and they are never primarily among the vaccinated population, they start with the un-vaccinated.

Do all the anti-vaccine people want to be surrounded by a bunch of possible flu carriers? No. They want everyone else to get vaccinated to protect them. That seems great until nobody gets the shot and there is no herd immunity anymore.

Ett
Salt Lake City, UT

Dr. Gregory House: [examining a baby whose mother isn't vaccinating him because she feels it's a scam; House takes the child's stuffed frog] All natural, no dyes. That's a good business - all-natural children's toys. Those toy companies, they don't arbitrarily mark up their frogs. They don't lie about how much they spend on research and development. And the worst that a toy company can be accused of is making a really boring frog. Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit. You know another really good business? Teeny tiny baby coffins. You can get them in frog green, fire engine red. Really. The antibodies in yummy mummy only protect the kid for six months, which is why these companies think they can gouge you. They think that you'll spend whatever they ask to keep your kid alive. Want to change things? Prove them wrong. A few hundred parents like you decide they'd rather let their kid die then cough up 40 bucks for a vaccination, believe me, prices will drop *really* fast. Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit, gribbit, gribbit. Modern vaccines don't cause flu.Get vaccinated.

gma1
phx., AZ

It is tragic for this young man to have passed away at such a young age.

Did the doctors test him for egg allergies? Since I am allergic to eggs, I cannot have flu shots. The symptoms he suffered as described in the article are identical to some of the symptoms I suffer after ingesting or exposure to eggs. Perhaps it was the egg content of the shot rather than the virus in the vaccine that caused him to become so ill.

Flu vaccines save a multitude of lives each year. My grandson, who has asthma, has to get a shot each year or his health can be at great risk. In addition, my elderly mother died from the flu. Please get your flu shot if you are able since you may be saving your own life as well as that of others.

Life With Anthony
Salt Lake City, UT

Kora,
I'm wondering if you have an autistic child; my guess is that you do not. I do. If you are interested, I write a blog about him using my screen name here as the title.

I would say that "debunked" is probably too strong a term to use with regard to whether vaccines cause autism. My personal feeling, based on experience and what I have seen in other cases, is that vaccines probably trigger something already there. That 18 months after birth is when autistic symptoms often suddenly appear, and that that is precisely one of the points in modern children's lives when additional--some having been given at birth--vaccines are administered, is a case for at least a reasonable argument to be made concerning a connection. Right or wrong, I think "debunked" is not entirely accurate.

I just received a flu shot. I had shots a couple of years in a row some years back, and then haven't for a few years. I was surprised at the level of questioning regarding reactions to the shot this time. This indicates to me that there is probably more to it than we are generally being told.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Good luck proving it.

CARL
South Salt Lake, UT

Maybe the Heavenly Father has a better plan for him. His Earthly mother should let his body go to organ donation and they will do an autopsy to make sure that diseases have not damage the parts that can be used in other person. Only then we should able to determine what caused his body to fail.

Swartzy
Arlington, TX

I am so sorry for the loss of their son. Nothing can compare to this. But when I was about his age 23 I got the HONG KONG flu. I nearly died. I was very ill for almost 2 weeks. It was the worst sickness I have ever experienced. When flu shots became available I started getting one every year. I didn't want to die from the flu. I have never had a reaction to the shots. I haven't had the flu again. I hope this mother will take another look at why her son died. Just reading this story, I do not see evidence that it was the flu shot, it might just have been a time he got sick from something else. I do hope for her they have some autopsy results so she can have a firm conclusion to this. To say anyone else should not get a flu shot becuase her son died after taking one, is a dis service to her son and to all of us who count on them to stay alive. I so hope they give her some hard evidence of what caused her son's death, no matter what it is.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

Always get a flu shot, never had a reaction. Condolences to the family. An Autopsy might have provided a definitive answer. Just a thought.

caf
Bountiful, UT

What a terrible experience for these parents! I am so sorry that this happened. We don't always understand why bad things happen but I hope that these parents do not loose their faith because their son was called back to God. My condolences on the loss of a treasured child.

Serenity
Manti, UT

My heart goes out to the family of that young man. His mother can be assured that he is completing his mission in another realm. But what a tragedy for the family! Our prayers and thoughts are with you. Your son continues on but so must you in the knowledge that this life isn't our final destination but rather a short time in our eternal journey. May God bless his mother and the rest of the family and give them peace.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

My condolences to the family.
I try to stay healthy, I understand that a virus can be harmful and deadly. I Google. I find out how to keep the virus away from me. I worm my blood, exercise. I'll change my PH in the blood by taking vinegar or backing soda, up or down. I get out side for the sun [D]. I take vitamins and eat right. I don't care if I get the shot

California dude
Orange County, CA

You won't stick me alive. I'll take the flu over one of those death needles.

higv
Dietrich, ID

There was something on the front page of MSN a couple of years ago where a teenager in Colorado died because he didn't get the vaccine. Easy to blame things. I know people who think milk causes allergies and won't drink milk. Easy to blame things on thing other than tragic but freak things.

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