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Published: Friday, Nov. 22 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

OK, the Center for Union Facts? I got this off of the internet:

The Center for Union Facts is a secretive front group for individuals and industries opposed to union activities. It is part of lobbyist Rick Berman's family of front groups including the Employment Policies Institute. The domain name www.unionfacts.com was registered to Berman & Co. in May 2005.

The Deseret News continues to be a front for these heavily funded (by the super wealthy) organizations whose purpose is to undermine modern liberalism. This is getting really tiresome and your credibility is shredding fast.

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

"But as recent history shows, these and other worker centers have failed miserably at drumming up support from actual employees." The reason for that is that if an "actual" employee even says the word "union" they're gone!

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

"Richard Berman is the executive director of the Center for Union Facts..."

This is infuriating. Deseret News, can you please have the decency to identify Mr. Berman for what he actually is - a paid lobbyist for corporations opposed to raising the minimum wage? Mr. Berman is in fact the founder of innumerable industry-funded PR ventures designed to thwart efforts to improve the pay and workplace safety for millions of Americans.

Read the heavily footnoted Wikipedia article about him for Pete's sake.

This is a troubling pattern that has recently emerged in the opinion section of the Deseret News - industry-funded PR firms send you highly spun and deception-laden articles in the guise of "think tank" findings, and you print them without the slightest effort to report who really funded these pieces.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

"Richard Berman is the executive director of the Center for Union Facts..."

The Deseret News shills and stoops to an even lower low.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

You know Blue and Marxist, what is even scarier is if the DN knows exactly who these people are.

airnaut
Everett, 00

I'm beginning to seriously wonder about the integrity of this newspaper.

While refecting about all the "My View" article the editors decide to post of the years,
I can't help but think about how many of them have come from right-wing-paid-lobbyists.

The Coal Industry
The Oil Industry
The Gas Industry
Obama's minimum wage hike bad idea: The Employment Policies Institute
Obama,

It's like "open mike" night for Special Intrerest Industies in Utah.

Which would be fine I guess,
IF I saw an equaivalant number of opposing "My Views" such as the enviromental, war, help for the poor, sick, and the needy, etc.

But it would seem Corporations spinning for profit is by far the most prevelant.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Yup, let's continue to allow businesses to exploit workers so they may pay obscene salaries to executives.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

If Sam Walton's family was seeing some tough times,
I could understand holding down wages and not providing benefits.

BUT

When Sam Walton's family is the RICHEST family on the planet,
and recieve's indirect Government subsidez's to further boost their fortunes via tax payer provided Food Stamps to those they under-employ,
that's called EXPLOITATION.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

DN tends to act as publicist for a lot of these conservative 'think' tanks, and that certainly seems to be the case here. There's no way I'm going near a walmart on black friday; if it helps to count that as support of the unions, I'm ok with that.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

You guys need to give Walmart a break. They put out food collection bins so people could donate food to help Walmart employees who don't have enough money for food this holiday season. Obviously they care a lot about their employees. Not enough to pay them a decent wage, but enough to beg on their behalf!

Flashback
Kearns, UT

In a supposed free market, Walmart is paying what the market will bear. No one is forcing people to work at Walmart. People chose to work there. But then the lament is, "Oh they make billions and pay me peanuts." Retail isn't the best of jobs. If people think Walmart is unfair, then they are free to look elswhere. If they choose not to and stay, then it is on them. Anyone is free to apply for any job they want and to work anywhere they are qualified to work. Or they can work to upgrade their skills so they don't have to work at Walmart.

Should Walmart pay better wages? Probably. Should their employees be unionized? If they want. Would it work? Most likely not. Will these fake strikes work? Doubtful.

I wonder where Blue and Marxist work.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The individual person has no ability to stand against the organized, well trained, purpose driven forces of the commercial world.

Thus we have the invasion of our private homes by commercials in order to participate in the freedom that we supposedly have. Thus we have huge commercial signs to block our view and destroy the beauty of the natural world. Thus we have work rules for employment that take away freedom and humanity in our quest to obtain the necessities of life.

It is and always has been the agenda and program of those who own and operate businesses to prevent any sort of combining of power by workers or consumers. Thus we have the non-stop war in the media, schools and probably even churches against worker and consumer unions.

So If we would continue in our quest to become civilized we must empower individuals with the ability to live, work and play as human beings.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

In the thousand words told by the picture chosen for this article there is the notion that the striker is doing something evil. It is the prominent presence of the police car that is the telling item.

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

"marxist" and "blue" while I seldom agree with you; I sure do today!!

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Since when is Richard Berman denied his right as a citizen to express his opinion? Does it matter who he works for? Should we demand that Obama stop "campaigning against the Republicans" because he is biased?

Something is wrong when one poster used three different pseudonyms to attack the Deseret News. Maybe it's time that the Deseret News required every poster to register using his true identity before being allowed to post using a pseudonym.

If you don't like what Richard Berman wrote, please have the decency to debate the issue instead of hiding behind a pseudonym and stabbing him in the back. He used his name. Those who oppose him are afraid of what people would think of them if their identity were known. That tells me all that I need to know about those who "protest too much". They're only brave when they can hurl their insults and then run and hide.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

1. The DN allows (5) different names -- I choose to use them.
2. My DoD security clearance forbids us from using our "real" names in forums such as this. And - thanks to American businesses dealing in Communist Red China -- I can't even have a FaceBook account.

I gotta hand it to you though --
Call people "rats" using your real name in South Jordan wasn't the smartest of moves.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

MikeR: "Since when is Richard Berman denied his right as a citizen to express his opinion?"

No one is denying his right to express an opinion. The issue is the myriad facades used by this professional shill in an effort to mask his status as a lobbyist for the restaurant and hotels industry.

"Does it matter who he works for?" Of course it does. He's attacking the movement to raise the minimum wage for the benefit of his corporate employers, which includes Walmart, but trying to hide that fact behind a fake "think tank."

"Should we demand that Obama stop 'campaigning against the Republicans' because he is biased?" Don't be silly. Politicians identify themselves as such and are expected to express their political agendas. Mr. Berman is infamous for his many masquerades intended to _hide_ the political agendas of his employers.

"Something is wrong when one poster used three different pseudonyms to attack the Deseret News." That's petulant nonsense.

The middle class is evaporating, corporate profits are at record highs, and the minimum wage can't keep a worker out of poverty, and Mr. Berman is a paid shill for rapacious corporations.

Factual enough for you?

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

"1. The DN allows (5) different names -- I choose to use them."

Didn't know that. For the record, this is the only screen name I use, and I will never use others.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

"On Thanksgiving and Black Friday, union organizers, activists groups and even a couple of Walmart employees are expected to picket the nation’s largest retailer in Salt Lake City and across the country."

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...and even a COUPLE of Walmart employees...

Talk about disingenuous.

...in {cut and paste - insert city of NewsPaper here] and across the country.

If the Billionaires of the Sam Walton family can afford to pay a Lobbying hack,
they most certainly can afford to pay their employees a fair and honest wage!

Therefore --
I'm going to Centerville to help picket the WalMart there and drop off some cans of food,
and then,
I'm heading across the street to Target [who pays their employees more] and then to CostCo [who pays even more] and spending my $$$

L White
Springville, UT

What a hoot! This is better than "Saturday Night Live". A poster is offended by someone writing about "rats". I wonder why? Does he identify with the "rats". Why else would he be offended?

Civility in America is something that is out in the open. No one needs to hide. We're given the RIGHT to speak in America. If a government agency tells us that we cannot speak, then I could be the first person in line to take that agency to court. No one, not even the DOD has the right to tell us that we cannot speak out on any subject that we feel is important to us. Of course, the DOD, just like any employer might think that we do not fit the "criteria" for being an employee if what we say is not "politically correct". But why claim to be an American if you are afraid of speaking your mind? Isn't that a basic part of freedom?

Now, to the topic of this letter: The writer has every right to speak his mind and no one in America has the right to censor him.

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