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Dick Harmon: Cougars lose to Iowa State in dramatic fashion

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  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Nov. 25, 2013 12:52 a.m.

    @mountainflying...

    It's actually 11 wins against the utes 1 win over the past 12 games covering the last 7 years... (and that one game that the utes won was in OT on their own floor) By most standards, that's a huge embarrassment... Far worse than losing 4 football games in a row... However, in the 80's and early 90's the utes lost to the Cougs 18 out of 20 games over a 20 year period... I guess that would be pretty embarrassing also.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 22, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    @ mountainflying

    BYU has beaten the Utes in basketball (10 of 11) over the past decade or so many more times than the Utes have beaten BYU in football (5 of 8)... and most by much larger margins.

  • mountainflying Logan, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 11:38 p.m.

    PG # 1 Fan - We'll see on December 14th if BYU can beat the U..They sure can't in football, that is for sure.

  • scott Alpine, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 10:46 p.m.

    christy

    "Most great programs would go 3-1 against Iowa State, Wichita, Texas, and USU."

    The Utes wouldn't win a single game; in fact, every single loss would be by double digits.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Nov. 21, 2013 7:20 p.m.

    I am a huge Cougar fan and I am at a loss to answer this question... Why is Josh Sharp not getting any rotation minutes??? He is the last "big" that Coach Rose brings off the bench and there were some games last year where he was a force... I always thought that he was a good rebounder and tough around the rim... He never showed a lot of confidence with either his 3 point or mid range shooting, but it always looked like something that could be developed.

    I don't see these guys everyday but he certainly seems better and has more presence around the rim than does Worthington... But that's just my opinion from what I have seen.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Nov. 21, 2013 6:03 p.m.

    @BigRed - Oh, Please! Show me the video where Bronson Kaufusi DELIBERATELY tried to injure an opposing player. This guy went straight at Mika's face (eyes) with fingers pointed straight out. He made NO attempt to go for the ball which was at least 3 feet below Mika's eyes. This guy should not be allowed to ever be back on a college basketball court. One of the dirtiest plays I have ever witnessed in a college or professional basketball game.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 5:12 p.m.

    @ Chris B:

    Two questions I would like you to answer honestly...

    1) After reading all of your rhetoric about going 3-1, what difference does it make to you personally whether BYU is considered just good or great?

    2) If it had been Utah who playeed the #21 team in the country last night, down to the wire after being ahead most of the game, how much different would your comments on this game be?

  • PG #1 FAN Lindon, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 4:57 p.m.

    Utah would go 0-4 against that schedule.....For Sure

  • FanofBYU American Fork, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 4:07 p.m.

    Poor Free Throw shooting, poor outside shooting, and some poor decision-making are what cost BYU the game. They should have won that game by 7.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    @ Chris B:

    You have a right to your comments. But in honestly, they often seem quite puerile to many readers. Before this game, you publicly demeaned BYU, saying that Iowa State had much better athletes and would beat BYU by 20 points or more.

    Now that BYU has shown you wrong (again), you still can't give them any credit whatsoever for playing a great game against a very good, nationally ranked team (who also recently knocked off the #7 team in the country). BYU was ahead 80% of this game before taking it down to a last second shot. Very commendable to most people.

    Your comments about 3-1 isn't about this game or artucle and is just an attempt to change the subject about you being wrong in your pre-game prediction.

    BTW: Iowa State is no longer picked to be 6th in their conference. That was pre-season. They will now be listed as a top-20 nationally ranked team. BYU gave them their toughest game yet this year. But to acknowledge these current facts would not support an ongoing, always negative approach to BYU.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 1:26 p.m.

    smart,

    Beating a team picked to be 6th is nothing to brag about.

    Iowa State is a good ranked team
    Wichita is a good ranked team
    Texas is always a very athletic team, even if they haven't been great overall lately
    usu is a big in state opponent

    I repeat: Great teams would go 3-1 against that 4 game schedule, IF NOT 4-0.

    Will byU go 3-1?

    Nope!

  • Brucemax Provo, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    Oops. It was Melvin Ejim.

  • Brucemax Provo, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 12:25 p.m.

    I thought it was funny how the ESPN commentators were talking about how mature Kane is and then he helped them make the case by gouging out Mika's eyes and giving the crowd the finger.

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    Nov. 21, 2013 11:58 a.m.

    I watched the game last night and was very disappointed by the Cougars last 6 to 7 min. Very poor execution on offense and defense down the stretch. More than anything, was when we had double digit leads, someone (usually Carlino) would fire up some off balance weird shot that had no chance to go in. I know we like to play at a fast pace, but Carlino is still out of control and to frantic to much. I know that is how he operates, but he needs to get his teammates involved more and higher quality shots for his team. We could have pushed the lead to 15 or more a couple of times, but they got out of control.

  • daver Provo, 00
    Nov. 21, 2013 11:05 a.m.

    Iowa State definitely had better players. Our players seemed to feel that most defensive rebounds belonged to the opponent and didn't show much will to fight that much to contend them.I call it the Dennis Rodman mentality: "Every loose ball and rebound is MINE and MINE ONLY!"

    Thought Haws was a craftier player than he showed. I can understand a quiet game, with the opponent's game planning around you, but that last-minute panic-dribble into traffic, rather than involving team mates was a head-scratcher. Winder made the same last-minute blunder.

    Having said that, Iowa State had to be the dirtiest-playing team I've seen in 25+years of watching college hoops. Kane's feigning surprise at the refs' ruling after blinding Mika was classic. Team play, dirty or clean is a culture/mentality fostered by the head coach. I put this squarely on Hoiberg's shoulders.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 11:06 a.m.

    Iowa State plays too rough and it isn't fair.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Nov. 21, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    @ Chris B
    A two point loss is nothing to be ashamed of.
    Why don't you include Stanford in that set of numbers?
    They are from the PAC

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    Most great programs would go 3-1 against Iowa State, Wichita, Texas, and Usu.

    If you are a great program and worthy of an NCAA invite, go 3-1

    If byu does go 3-1 I"ll say byu is a great team.

    Go 2-2 or 1-3 and you're just an average team.

    What will it be?

  • fan in orem Orem, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    Folks in Iowa didn't see a problem with it. From the Ames Tribune: Replays appeared to show Kane making contact with his hand to Mika’s face.

    “(The officials) said that he didn’t make a play on the ball,” said Hoiberg, “and they obviously (saw) the replay and I didn’t, so you’ve got to live with that decision.”

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    That call is a tough one. In full speed, it looks unintentional to me. However, when you slow it way down like I did. He makes no attempt at the ball and is looking straight into Mikas face and jabs his hands forward. That is a tough on, especially when it is full speed. I am not sure if it was intentional or not.

  • BigRedUtah SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 8:57 a.m.

    Isn't it ironic how rough play is bad when it is the other team but ok when Bronson Kaufusi is on the floor. How quickly we forget. The player from ISU had 21 points and 11 rebounds which would lead me to believe he is actually on the floor to play basketball. Kaufusi on the other hand....

  • kfbob SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 8:51 a.m.

    Great Game. Maybe fans will realize that Haws is a good college Basketball player but he is has peaked with his game. His athletic ability is holding him back from going to play at the top level of the college game and the NBA. It's one thing to light up Weber State but something completely different when you have a solid top 25 team defending you. He looked completely outclassed by the ISU defenders when it mattered. ISU players were good but I didn't see any future NBA stars out there, just better athletes, with plenty of length.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 8:48 a.m.

    A punch?

    More like a two hand grab and scratch.

    Grab a jersey...Grab shorts...Grab an arm...

    Ok.

    But a two hand grab and scratch a face?

    For DN readers who did not see the play, find video to see for yourself.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    The game stunk, with the stink emanating all the way from Utah to Iowa!

    The rough play of I.S. showed just what college basketball needs to clean up.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Nov. 21, 2013 6:31 a.m.

    It looked like with just one more three pointer or three more free throws made would've done it for the Cougars. So sad to hear Mika is hurt though. Hope it's not too serious! He's a tough one to replace in their lineup. The Cougars definitely can't afford to loose him. I didn't see the game but was surprised to read that they missed so many free throws. Maybe they need to work more on that. It would've been the difference in this game for them.

    Hope they regroup and make needed adjustment. Go Cougars!

  • LadyMoon Crestucky, FL
    Nov. 21, 2013 4:09 a.m.

    Sounds like the blatant, flagrant file on our star freshmen was an act of near criminal aggression that should be investigated by the NCAA. The team and player should be held accountable and sanctioned! Coach Rose must initiate a letter to to Iowa State and the NCAA for disciplinary action.

  • Johnny Moser Thayne, WY
    Nov. 21, 2013 1:47 a.m.

    I realized it sure would have been nice to have 6'8" Defensive Lineman at the end of the bench for just such an occasion when The Mika is unavailable. There were a couple of easy put backs on the offensive board that would likely have not been so easy in the last 3:28. Changing my mind about whether we might need said dude this year.

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 12:46 a.m.

    ISU got the win, but did so in a classless fashion. Poor reflection on the young men with the fingers to the eye and to the crowd. It is one thing to win, but ISU gained zero respect in everything that matters tonight.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 12:29 a.m.

    With Y shooting gone cold, wouldn't it have been the time to get Halford (guard) back into the game? I believe he made his only 3 attempt, and is a very good shooter. As for Kane, he should be suspended at least one game, and required to miss as many games as Mika misses due to injury, going forward. I'd like that as a rule, that if you injure another player with a flagrant, you cannot play in future games, until the injured player is back to playing again. That would be a fair penalty to assess, and maybe be a deterrent to dirty play.